Louie da fly
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Hi Stu and welcome. Have you started a build log yet? We need pictures! Lots of pictures! Steven
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That model's already looking very good, Fuji. You've done very well in just a few months! Welcome to MSW. Start up a build log for your model (you can include "post-dated"photos). We're all suckers for pictures of beautiful ship models and you should be able to pick up a lot of tips as you're going along. Steven
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Great that you're getting back to it after all this time. I think you'll find a lot of us are in the same boat (me included). With your background in modelling you should be off to a good start - when your kit arrives! The people here are very firendly and helpful, so don't hesitate to ask questions. And start a build log - it's the best way to get that help when needed. And have fun with the model - that's what it's all about. Steven
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Thinking about it, maybe Thunder's suggestion of a plastic Bounty would do the trick - does your girlfriend have any objection to plastic? It can still look very good, and would take a lot shorter time to produce - and a lot less hassle - and still be a three-masted square-rigger rather than a boat. Might be worth considering. Steven
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G'day Sandoman. I'd agree with Jonny's advice. For two reasons - one, you're more likely to finish something simpler. Two, even if you do finish, it's going to take you a good long time to make something as complex as the Bounty (beautiful as it might be) - much longer than your girlfriend would be happy with. A longboat would be a good choice, or perhaps a singlemasted ship like a cutter (though that would be considerably more complex and take longer than the longboat). Both can be very impressive when finished - don't forget ships' boats did have masts and sails; they weren't just rowing boats. I'm not familiar with the quality and ease of building of the various kit manufacturers (I'm a scratch builder), but I'm sure other members will be able to give you some guidance in getting a kit that doesn't strain your abilities as a beginner. Use the search function at the top of the page to find build logs for cutters and longboats (and don't forget the Bounty's jolly boat!), to get some idea of how long they usually take. I started my own dromon in 2015 and I'm only now approaching the end of the build - but I reckon I still have several months to go. By the way, where are you in Oz? You might find there are other modellers not too far away from you. Steven
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Don't forget to start a build log in the "Scratch Build" section, so others can admire your work, help you with problems, give advice etc. Everybody here is very helpful and I've had a lot of very valuable assistance from the members of MSW while doing my own build. Have you built a ship model before? I'm sending you a private message. You can access it by going to the top right of the page and clicking on the picture of the two "speech bubbles" Steven (Lowe)
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Welcome, Georgios. I hope you enjoy building your dromon as much as I'm enjoying mine. Steven (Lowe)
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Thanks, Stuglo. I appreciate the thought, and these are very nice plans, but they are of a c. 1600 galleon, rather than a "great carrack"of 1545. Steven
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https://www.furphystory.com.au/shop/2018-furphy-tank-end/ - (the AIF was the Australian Imperial Force (army) in the First World War). Steven
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Dire straits was a saying in common English before it was the name of a band. It means to be in a serious, often life-threatening situation. "Dire" is probably the most extreme word in English for something bad. It usually means things couldn't possibly get any worse. It's defined as "causing or involving great fear or suffering; dreadful; terrible: indicating trouble, disaster, misfortune, or the like: urgent; desperate:" and "straits" relates not to a narrow body of water, but "a situation of perplexity or distress". Hope that helps. But you didn't ask what a furphy was . . . Steven
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It would have to be a Furphy, surely. I've always been chuffed by the fact that the name for the "water supply" always seems to become the term to mean "unsubstantiated rumour" - scuttlebutt, Furphy for Australians, and nowadays, "water cooler" answers the same function . . . Seriously, though, it's believed that each oarsman had his own amphora under his bench, and that the main supply was kept iin the hold, probably in barrels. With the amount they sweated, they had to land to replenish water for the ship on a regular basis, preferably every day. If they were unable to, after three or four uninterrupted days at sea they would probably have been in dire straits. Steven
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Thanks, George. I'm equally impressed by your own build. The level of research and inspired reconstruction, as well as the quality of your work, is exemplary. Kikatinalong, apparently the amount of sweating the oarsmen do when rowing means that toilet breaks are rarely needed on a galley. The ticketing apparatus must be up somewhere near the windlass, I should think. I'll have to remember to build one . Thanks everyone for the likes. Steven
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That's interesting, Mark. I know you do a fair bit of sailing and your input regarding the practical aspects is very valued. Last time I did any sailing at all was - let me see - just under 40 years ago - and that was a disaster. I forgot everything I'd learned in Sea Scouts and got stranded out on the bay at Port Stephens. Very embarrassing. I only just avoided having to be towed back to shore by a paddleboat, which would have been the ultimate humiliation. Steven
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ancre Belle Poule 1765 by j.guydal
Louie da fly replied to j.guydal's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
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Another of your beautiful tiny builds, Javier! Steven
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A nice bit of carving on that figurehead, Lin. Welcome to the ranks of (small scale) woodcarvers! Steven
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A nice (possible) solution to the mystery, and nicely carried out. Steven
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I agree - that's going to look very good. Steven
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I've been on the forecastle on a Manly ferry in this kind of sea - absolutely exhilarating! (I got soaked, though). Dammit! I've derailed my my own thread again! Back to your scheduled programme . . . Steven
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By the way, I agree with Druxey about having the shield off to the side somewhat - it'simportant not to hide the fact that Bellona is female. Steven
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Mark, it's important to remember when this statue was carved. Knowledge of Roman artefacts was very limited and mainly confined to antiquarians. Bellona's equipment would almost certainly be more influenced by Renaissance and Rococo "pseudo-Roman" than by actual Roman examples. No pilum, no Roman gladius. The spear, I'd suggest, would be very much like the one in your last picture. As someone who's used a shield in (re-enactment) combat, I'd recommend she hold it higher, to cover the chest. On the other hand, the guy who carved her wouldn't have had the benefit of that kind of experience, and I'd think he'd be more interested in an artistic-looking composition than belligerent (there's that root-word again!) practicality. I'd say where the figurehead on the 1760 ship model can't help, the Straub statue would be a good model to follow as it's very closely contemporary with the ship itself. Steven
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I should have known it would be Cog . . . Here are Sydney's heads! You can see why Captain Cook completely missed Sydney harbour - the land behind the entrance makes it look like a minor indentation in a continuous coastline. Here's a closer shot of the heads. And a ferry crossing the heads to get to Manly on the other side -or perhaps coming from Manly . . . Steven
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I think this is appropriate - Rose Bay is a waterside suburb on Sydney Harbour. Lots of commuters travel to Sydney on the ferry - turning left (to port) ends up at Circular Quay right by the City centre (just under the harbour bridge, next to the Opera House). Turning right (starboard) takes you through the heads and out to sea . . . Steven
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