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I don't have much to add to Cathead's excellent set of links, except to refer you to representations of Viking sails on contemporary runestones at https://modelshipworld.com/topic/24335-gokstad-viking-ship-by-bigpetr-148-card-cca-900-ad/page/4/?tab=comments#comment-776214 Your pavesades (shield rails) and oarports look very good. Steven
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What kind of wood is that? It looks like it might be off a fruit tree. Steven
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What were your first tools as a child?
Louie da fly replied to FlyingFish's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
I have my Dad's old bench vise and his "rivet snap" (https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=119369) which I used to get a lot of use from when I was into re-enactment and made mediaeval helmets, but is really no use for ship modelling. Steven -
That's looking very good, EOL. The fake ribs work well. I hope you still have some skin on the end of your fingertips after that sanding. The extra image is at the end because you didn't allocate it a place in the text, and you have to delete the original picture from the group of uploads at the bottom and the one at the end of the text before it will go away. Don't ask me how I know . . . Steven
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Lateen yards – inside or outside of the shrouds?
Louie da fly replied to catopower's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Precisely. One of the ropes on the vessel below is a halyard. But are the others shrouds or backstays? Or what? (rhetorical question - no answer needed). I must say, Wefalck's contributions have got me thinking about issues relating to lateens that I hadn't considered before. Steven- 14 replies
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Lateen yards – inside or outside of the shrouds?
Louie da fly replied to catopower's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Wefalck, merci beaucoup pour la référence. Though I'll accept that a lateen on a small vessel can be used without shrouds, larger ships seem to need them. I don't know that there's really a difference between a lateen with or without shrouds. Steven- 14 replies
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That's beautiful work, Derek.
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Greetings from the shores of Lake Michigan!
Louie da fly replied to Jayhawk's topic in New member Introductions
Welcome to MSW, Jayhawk. When you get started on your model, you should also start a build log. The instructions are here: It's a great way to get help and advice as you go through your build. The people here are very friendly and helpful. Good to have you aboard. Steven -
Welcome, Derek! Do you have a build under way at the moment, or one planned? Steven
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Lateen yards – inside or outside of the shrouds?
Louie da fly replied to catopower's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
It depends. Historically they are shown doing so. But on small Mediterranean lateeners they usually don't bother. Note that there is a loop of rope that acts as a parrel which keeps the yard close to the mast. But it may be different with a bigger sail. I did quite a bit of research on this with my dromon build - see https://modelshipworld.com/topic/10344-10th-11th-century-byzantine-dromon-by-louie-da-fly-150-finished/page/41/ In Mediterranean lateeners the yard is and was usually outside the shrouds, but in galleons and other ships of the 16th to early 18th century, the lateen mizzen had the yard inside the shrouds; most probably because the mizzen wasn't the main source of propulsion. Steven- 14 replies
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He may well do - that is his right and privilege. But in common with many movies and TV series based on history, there are glaring inaccuracies in relation to such things as armour, equipment and costume, (though the swords look ok). Justin Pollard, the historical adviser on the series is a "popular historian, historical consultant and screenwriter" according to Wikipedia. But if he gave advice on such things I doubt it was followed. Unfortunately movies very rarely worry about such things - the director and costume department get a bigger say than the historical consultant. I've also spent years researching Viking history and artefacts, and though I may not be an academic, I do know when something is as wrong as this. Strangely enough, the shields are among the "least worst" of the gear on the show. Steven
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This is looking very good. You've made good progress and obviously mastered the clinker planking. Here are some more (genuine) Viking dragon heads (none of them from ships - none have ever been found) - but all from real Viking artefacts: Looking forward to the next progress. Steven
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Unfortunately, nothing in the Vikings TV show bears any relationship to what Vikings ate/wore/did/carried/used. And most of the "Viking Shield Designs" that can be found on-line use a fair bit of imagination (i.e. they're made up) or extrapolate from Viking decorations in other contexts (i.e. they're made up). What is known about patterns on Viking shields appears here: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~chrisandpeter/shield/shield.html The ones you're making look good, but as there seems to be no evidence of standardization in shield decoration, you could mix and match patterns and colour combinations as much as you like within the colours available at the time - https://sciencenordic.com/denmark-history-society--culture/how-to-decorate-like-a-viking/1455997 . Steven
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To be honest, Druxey, so am I. I keep thinking "Did I really do this when I was that young?" Maybe I don't give my younger self enough credit, but I seem to remember I was a bit of a twerp back then. Or is it that if I could do that when I was that young, why haven't I progressed any further in all this time? Interestingly, I did carve three figures for the ship out of bamboo back in the day, but they got lost sometime in the interim. It would be instructive to be able to compare them. But I do remember they didn't have the level of detail the current ones do. Steven
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Oh dear, oh dear. I won't say I haven't been tempted. But that way lies madness . . . Steven
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Making a third figure - this time a common sailor - probably to stand on a yard holding onto a rope. Or possibly it's John Travolta . . . And finally doing the railings for the main deck, one of which broke off short, and the other got lost. Here I'm adding extra length at both ends to the broken one, using scarph joints. And in place - just glued at both ends so far. Once that's dry I'll glue down the intermediate bits. Steven
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What a wonderful idea. I'm not sure if you already know about the Sutton Hoo Ship's Company, who are building a full-sized replica in the UK? https://www.facebook.com/saxonship Steven
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Added some uprights to support a crossbeam for belaying points. Capstan complete and dry fitted, along with the three-sheave knight (funny, why does that phrase make me think . . . Momma told me not to come?) Steven
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