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Well, having seen the time and trouble you've put into the Nina, and the quality of work, this next build log should be something to watch! Steven
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Thanks everybody for the likes; and thanks, Radek. I was hoping the photos would be what you wanted. I've done some extra sanding and most of the CA is gone now - along with a bit of red paint that must have transferred from my thumb while I was painting. I might be about to disappoint you, though. I intend to darken the underwater planking with shoe polish - it'll be sort of brownish-black in line with what they used to do back in the day (tar) - you can see an example a page or two back in this build on the bottom of the longboat. You'll still be able to see the planking, but it won't stand out so much like a sore thumb. Unfortunately the old sails are way past redemption - the fabric is actually crumbling. And anyway I plan to give her a whole new suit of sails in fake cloth of gold as in the reconstruction picture on the first page of this log. That was the original plan when I built her back in the day, and I think she deserves to look as good as she can. As we (used to) say here in Oz - as flash as a rat with a gold tooth . . . Steven
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And the mast steps in the Yenikapi Byzantine wrecks seem to have been rudimentary at best - some not even attached to the hull! Probably fair enough. Even the hockey stick may not have had a sheave, but just a groove along the top to guide the halyard, as I seem to recall your theorising in an earlier discussion. The amount of chafing from this arrangement may have been small enough to ignore in practical terms. Steven
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Die Kogge Von Bremen by kentyler
Louie da fly replied to kentyler's topic in - Subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Roger, there are in fact two wrecks - known as Doel 1 and Doel 2. They are nowhere near as complete as the Bremen cog. You can see the archaeological reports at https://www.academia.edu/19499820/Construction_Features_of_Doel_1_a_14th_Century_Cog_found_in_Flanders and https://www.academia.edu/27506746/Doel_2_a_second_14th_century_cog_wrecked_in_den_Deurganck_Doel_Belgium Steven -
As far as I know nobody really knows how the rigging on Viking ships worked. There have been rigging elements (such as L-shaped pieces) found but as far as I know the ropes had long since perished. I think there's a lot of educated guesswork in any modern reconstructions. Others might know more, but perhaps if you get in touch with the Viking Ship Museum at Roskilde they'd be able to give you what information is available and what they based their reconstructions on. I'd be more likely to trust their information than what the kit manufacturer says - they have access to all the best evidence. Steven
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As requested . . . Note the remnants of a CA spill on the last one. I need to do more sanding to get rid of it, I think. Steven
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Can't be Albany - too far. Busselton? Bunbury? Manjimup? (I grew up in West Oz). Steven
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Pure masochism. I just like suffering . . . Steven
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Thanks Pat and Radek. And thanks everybody for the likes. Radek, the idea for the deadeyes is very good, but I'm really wanting to make all my deadeyes myself, masochism notwithstanding. I'm not quite sure what else I can add - I've pretty much posted everything as I went. Is there anything in particular you'd like to see? Such as the hull shape from different angles? If there are photos I can provide I'm happy to do so. Steven
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Reminds me of the time I was a volunteer on an archaeological dig in the old pearling town (now a ghost town) of Cossack in Western Australia. We were excavating the town store, on the site of the first building in the town. The mining company that now owned the town had burnt the building that had been on the site, as it was believed to be the third building there, so of no historical value. Turns out what they'd burnt down was the original building . . . Steven
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And from another Aussie! Where are you situated? (Oz is a big country - WA is three times the size of Texas). Maybe one or more members are close to you. Not us in Victoria for the next 5 days, though - back on to Stage 4 lockdown (sigh). I had the opportunity to see the Cutty Sark in 2009 when I was in the UK - only to find she'd been burnt by some Visigoth with a box of matches and couldn't be visited. Apparently all fixed now, but it was very annoying at the time. Missed out on the Mary Rose, too, dammit! Yes, do start a build log. The instructions are here: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/24705-before-you-post-your-build-log-please-read-this-starting-and-naming-your-build-log/ Good to have you aboard. Steven
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Welcome to MSW, Fltguy! Don't forget to start a build log of your own. Just as those of others have been of use to you, the solutions you come up with to the problems you face in the build may well be useful to those who come after you. And it's also a great way for other members to give you help and advice as you travel on your journey. The instructions are here: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/24705-before-you-post-your-build-log-please-read-this-starting-and-naming-your-build-log/ Good to have you aboard! Steven
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You did a good job. I struggled to get mine to (a) be circular and (b) stay circular. Maybe I should have used a bending iron - I just progressively and gently "kinked" mine with a pair of pliers till they were roughly circular. Probably should have taken more time and care. Steven
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Congratulations, Cri-Cri. That's a beautiful model. Do you know what you're going to do next? Steven
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Die Kogge Von Bremen by kentyler
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That's turned out very well, Amos. I built my tops up piece by piece - VERY difficult to get right, and not totally happy with the result. Yours are very nice indeed. Were those wooden "rings" part of the kit or did you make them yourself? Steven
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This is fascinating stuff, Rodolfo. A real resource for those of us interested in 15th/16th century ships. I've bookmarked it for future reference. Steven
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That is just so beautiful. Something to be justly proud of. Steven
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Yes, I realised that after I'd gone to bed. Couldn't be bothered getting back up to correct it . . . Back to our scheduled programming. Steven
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That's fine, Tom. Take your time - it's not a race. When you do decide what to build, make sure you start a build log. It's a great way to get help and advice - and encouragement. The instructions are here: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/24705-before-you-post-your-build-log-please-read-this-starting-and-naming-your-build-log/ Don't worry about making mistakes - we all do. They become learning experiences for future models. And welcome to the wonderful world of ship modelling! Steven
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Same data, different conclusion. Sumner Miller stated that the assgulation (? is that a word?) temperature was below the boiling point of water at the top of Everest, so you would be able to boil an egg. I'm not an expert, and I'll leave it to them to thrash it out between them. Steven
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Nice pictorial evidence, Dick. And you've got a good eye. Though I hadn't seen the top picture before, I was fairly familiar with the bottom one but had not noticed either the halyard or the "hockey stick", probably because the drawing quality wasn't all that good. And yes, that's a triangular wing, for sure. Steven
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Sounds like it could be the same ship - name and date are right. Tom, do you have any other information, such as where your ancestors disembarked? If it was Plymouth, the chances of it being the same ship are pretty good. Having said that, the only info about the ship itself is that its burthen was 300 tons (which means it could carry 300 tun barrels of wine) and that it was sailing in 1634. This narrows it down a little - ships did evolve in design over time - a ship of 1540 and a ship of 1640 had significant differences, for example. On the other hand, merchant ships tended to be rather conservative in design and probably retained old-fashioned characteristics longer than, say, warships. And ships only had a limited lifespan - a ship sailing in 1634 probably wouldn't have been more than, say, 20 years old, but unless she was specifically described as new, she probably wasn't. So, maybe built somewhere between 1610 and 1630? Probably wouldn't have had an open stern gallery - it may have had closed-in galleries, as these were coming about this time. But probably not, as she was a simple merchant ship. From this point on, all you'd be able to do is a generic merchant ship of galleon type from about the right time. There are kits of the Mayflower of 1620 - which is the nearest ship in time and type to yours available - but nobody knows what the Mayflower really looked like, either. That's about it. Sorry not to be able to help more. Steven
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