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Thank you for your comments and evaluation of our work!
7 hours ago, hollowneck said:Very interesting and clever...a mold to align and hold ribs. But I'll need to buy a load of those precision clamps!😆
Those "precision clamps" will be in a box of our wooden kit.
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22 minutes ago, ccoyle said:
So, is this a different kit than the 1/72 scale gunboat that was in development back in 2020? I'm just trying to figure out where this kit is in relationship to the other kits in the development pipeline.
Would also really like to see some progress reports on those other kits! (hint hint)
In February 2020, we started talking about the MK 0304 "42ft launch rigged Yawl with a 24-pound carronade (1841)". Scale1/48.
In February 2020, we started talking about the MK 0305 "22-oars two 24pd-gun gunboat of the Baltic fleet,1848" Scale1/72.
We have a lot of projects almost ready, but not put into production.
The delay in the release of new kits was due to the fact that we were engaged in patenting and protecting intellectual property rights for our developments. It took almost two years.
Now we are engaged in the MK0304 project in wood.
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Сannonballs were brought.
Diameter 3 mm. 80 pieces
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Thank you, James.
I won't guess, but in two weeks the first one will be ready for a photo on a box.
Then we will make the changes that we identified during the test build and we will assemble another model - the control assembly.
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Test assembly of a new kit
MK0304 "42ft launch rigged Yawl with a 24-pound carronade (1841). (in russian documents - rigged as Plymouth`s boat)
Scale 1: 48
length - 498.5 mm (hull - 267mm),
width - 80 mm,
height - 351 mm
one 24-pd. carronadeMaterial - pear
265 parts have already been assembled.
A few photos of the previous stages
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Gentlemen, I wish you all the best.
Help clarify the correct term - what is the name of this type of rig of a launch in the photos I have given?
In Russian documents of the mid-19th century it was written that "rigged as the Plymouth`s boat".
But this name rather has a local meaning for Russia.
This question is important in order to understand what name in English to indicate on the box of the new kit of "MasterKorabel".
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Unknown artist
Brig or snow Minerva, 1810
Watercolor, 12 x 16 inches
Gift of John W. Teele (70.13)Maine Maritime Museum
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Fragment of an Austrian merchant ship at the end of the 18th century
"Launch of Victoria in Le Havre in 1782, France, 18th Century"The boats were nested.
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But returning to the question raised.
This drawing from 1759 perfectly shows two boats.
One is on the deck (only fragments are visible) and the second boat from above is located on the topmasts.
It is very well shown how exactly the boat is attached.
Deutsch_ Frederik den Femtes Atlas
Segelplan, Seitenansicht Fregatte Sjöridderen
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Good afternoon, colleagues!
I think that the boat was put inside another boat when everything was cleaned inside.
Here is an example.. but a different age
https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-86757
It remains to find proof that this was done in the 18th century.
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6 hours ago, allanyed said:
One of the items you did post earlier showed and stated that the boats were nested. Can you tell us this source? As Lavery points out in The Arming and Fitting, that would be impossible as the boats always had at least some thwarts that were fixed in place and kneed so it would be impossible to nest them.
Hello, Allan!
This source is "Seamanship in the Age of Sail An Account of the Shiphandling of the Sailing Man-Of-War, 1600-1860" by John Harland
As far as I know, it was a common practice when one boat was placed in another.
I have seen drawings in the archive and met a description in the literature.
I think the models in NMM showed only one boat on top of two topmast for simplification.
There was always a lot of reserve spars on the ship (topmasts, topgallant masts, yards, topsail yards).
And smaller boats (cutter and yawls) would also be put on them as Marquardt showed according to Captain Cook's description.
The source is "Anatomy of the Ship: Captain Cook's ENDEAVOUR" by Karl Heinz Marquardt.
But they didn't show so much on the models. I think so.
I continue to look for a reliable source from the 18th century, where we can read about this in detail.
Eugen,
"Master Korabel"
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Good afternoon, dear colleagues.
There are many models in NMM, which show that the boat stands on the topmaps and is secured with ropes.
Several books have brief information on this, which is based on the same models from the museum, I think so.
Interested in more detailed information on how the boat was attached to the topmaps in the 18th century?
Is there a book of the 18th century (original source) about this method?
Thanks!
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8 hours ago, Wahka_est said:
Nice!
Do you have plans to do any bigger ships?
Our plans for the coming years:
1. English /Russian 24-gun cutter (brig) "Mercury", (bought by Russia 1788). Commander Robert Crown - Scotsman in Russian service.
2. Swedish/Russian 44-gun frigate "Venus", 1783 (captured by the Russians in 1789). Design by F. Chapman.
3. Russian 52-gun frigate "Pallas", 1832.4. 90-gun ship "St. Paul", 1794. Flagship of the Black Sea Fleet by Admiral F. Ushakov
All reconstruction according to archival drawings located in the Russian archives.
And we are actively working on this in recent years.
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