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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
KeithAug replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Nice work on the guns Pat. I took the opportunity to re-look through the earlier parts of the build and remind myself how nicely made your small parts are. A good way to spend an hour.- 993 replies
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A lot of progress since i last looked in Gary- well done. I keep thinking I need a laser level for marking water lines but when it comes to it I baulk at the cost or get put off by some of the Amazon reviews - your example is making me think i should take the plunge. One good source of sail tracks/runners is the rails from model railway tracks - quite cost effective when compared with specialist model making channel sections. I have also seen others use guitar frets which can also be quite cost effective.
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Yes Eberhard - you have to have done it to know how something as simple as a hawser pipe can turn out so tricky. All those compound angles make ones head ache. Hopefully so John. I wanted to get away from holes and I ended up doing even bigger ones. On the rear deck are 3 hatches. When I built Altair I somehow missed the deck hatches and when I realised it was too late to rectify. I carefully marked out the locations after establishing the positions from photographs. It took a bit of interpretation but I'm fairly sure about the result. Having marked the positions I drilled holes at the corners and widened these with a round file - the corners of the hatches have a circular profile. I then cut the sides carefully with a craft knife (supressing the worry that I would slip and wreck the deck). I then laid up planks on a ply base and cut this up to form hatches. To create the definition at the edges of the hatches I glued black paper strips around the edge before insertion. The hatches are inserted in the next photo but not glued. I then cut the notches to take the simulated hinges - to be installed at a later date. I then glued the hatches in place and sanded them back flush with the deck. There are two further small hatches at the bow but I have only scant information on their shape and size. Only fragments of them appear on my photos. I think I will leave them out.
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A very nice model particularly when considering how difficult oak is to work with at small scale. Well done.
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Thank you all for your comments, I have done the hawser pipe trick in previous builds and am sure to use it again - probably at the deck end of the pipe. I have spent a lot of time validating and marking out the deck fitting holes - currently about 80% done. The deck is now looking like it has a bad case of woodworm. I can see that I am going to be very carful about inserting the correct fitting in the correct hole. By far the most difficult holes to position were the aforementioned holes for the deck end of the hawser pipes. I used the hawser pipes mounted in the hull without the deck fitted to make a template and used this to mark put the position. I drilled holes at both ends of the ellipse and opened these out and connected them with a needle file. I am getting fed up with holes so may move on to something else for a break. I hope to catch up with all your builds over the next few days.
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Thank you all for your congratulations. I did finally get a bit of time in the workshop today. I made a concerted effort to get a lot of the deck fitting positions established - I prefer to mark the positions on templates and then to transfer the positions to the deck by pricking through. As previously discussed I did a lot of checking of the positions using photographs. The deck has several hundred fittings which have to be checked and marked out. I colour them in on the plan as I go. The most difficult holes to position are those for the hawser pipes. You may remember that I pre-cut holes in the frames to take these pipes. Holes were cut in the hull and deck to align with these pipes. I checked the hull hole positions using folded card to make sure both sides were identical. I cut out a card template to show the angle the hawsers make with the hull as a precursor to making the hawser pipes / flanges. The hawser pipe is made from tube and a .315" (8mm) bar is turned to take this tube. The bar is then set in the mill at the angle of the template pre-determined earlier. The end of the bar is cut off at this angle using a slitting saw. The hawser pipe is then soldered in position. The slitting saw was then used to slit off a flange .050" thick. This was finally shaped with a file. The fitting against the hull was then checked before polishing and final checking.
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After a stormy passage this little Jolly successfully berthed ahead of schedule yesterday. Her Grandad is well pleased. The shipyard will be closed for a week due to enthusiastic splicing of the mainbrace.
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Having finished the deck planking I have now commenced making it look like it has a bad case of woodworm. The deck is covered in a multitude of fittings all of which require holes of various small diameters. I am making a start on the holes which take the lower ends of the bulwark struts. There are about 50 struts per side. The positions of the struts are indicated on the plans but careful checking against photographs revealed a couple of discrepancies. Noting the discrepancies I attempted to validate all the positions from photographs. This proved to be quite a forensic task - enjoyable but very time consuming. The holes to take the struts are all equidistant from the deck edge. I made a small gauge with a stepped profile to mark them out. Then I drilled them out using 3 drills of increasing size. The final size was 3/32 inch.
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Thank you Nils. Keith, Pat, Roger, - I think Roger is correct - planking bonded to a steel deck is also what I am assuming.
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Greg, Druxey, Paul, Phil - thank you for your comments. Pat ---- It is a good question. I have had a good look round all of the photos and they don't appear on any of the planks.
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I managed to finish the deck planking. By the time I had got to the final planks on each beam the joggles were much longer than the maximum width of my chisels and I had to revert to the craft knife for cutting purposes. At maximum beam the deck edge becomes parallel with the deck planks and joggling becomes unnecessary. I have done some rough sanding (80 and 120 grit) to clean up the surface. I laid the deck on the hull to check what it would look like. Much more work to do before it is attached. I was pleased with the symmetry - by luck or judgement it was pretty well spot on.
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