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  1. Before I started Atalanta I had four sets of plans made with the expectation of cutting them up, etc. Three sets have never seen the light of day. The fourth set (the one I use) gets rolled up and unrolled on the kitchen counter as needed. Coffee mugs make great weights to hold the plan rolls open! BTW most of my work is done on the kitchen table, with the exception of lathe/mill work and big-girl toys like scroll sawing and machine sanding.
  2. Although this is certainly not a perfect representation of the rail, take a look at the arc in Atalanta compared with yours. This was taken with the camera perpendicular to the rail, providing a decent idea of the true shape. The vertical limb ends just below the cathead and the angles quickly, with a more horizontal, gentle sweep. Pictures are sometimes difficult to interpret but at no point does the bottom of the rail extend to the level of the top of the hawse hole. I remade this piece several times before I was happy. To make things easier, consider making the piece in heavy stock and once you are satisfied with the sweep, then transfer the shape to wood. Don't even think about making the timbers until the rail is complete and temporarily pinned in place. I did not glue anything in the head assembly until all the pieces were fit to my satisfaction.
  3. Let's just say that the redo is taking just as long as the first attempt. I have not cleaned it up yet but I think everyone will agree that it looks better (I hope). Next on the agenda is making the carvings to be applied to the munions. These will be similar to the ones between the stern windows.
  4. Looking at the plans, the angle for Atalanta is 8 degrees. Interestingly, Fly (and apparently Vulture) is 12 degrees. I had everything correct initially and then got distracted by seeing the framing through the munions. That would also explain why the lights made up from templates did not fit into the fenestration. I have ripped the whole thing out. I also decided that I did not like the look of the bell-top. It was 4" too wide, resulting in a center light that was also too wide. Hopefully, the redo will not take as long .
  5. Thanks, Druxey. Gone for a few days. I will check the alignment when I get home. It looks a lot more vertical in the pictures than I thought it was. And thank you everyone for the likes.
  6. While I continue to play with the lioness sculpture for the quarter piece, I have started working on the quarter badge. I find that a good rule of thumb is that the more extensive the instructions, the more fiddly the structure is to make. In TFFM, David gives 5+ pages to the quarter badge. Nuff said... The first step was to trace the outline of the badge. There is a slight projection error because of the curvature of the hull aft but I did not worry about it. Lines were extended perpendicular to the lower stool at the corners of the munions and outer edge of the stool and a new baseline was drawn parallel to the stool. This allowed accurate location of the lights and munions. A shallow elliptical line was made to outline the edge of the stool. This depth was determined by eyeballing the extreme width of the quarter piece and making sure the lower stool was a little more shallow. The piece was then cut out; I cut it overly wide to prevent tear outs at the ends when using a scraper to cut in the decorative molding. After the molding was scraped in, I cut it to the correct width and glued it to the hull, parallel to the water line. The upper stool construction is complicated by the bell-top. The first step is to make the basic upper stool and locate it on the hull. The angle of the window varies among the ships and the location of the upper sill determines this angle. Fly, for example, has a steeper angle to the lights than Atalanta. Use the outline on the plan to make a template for the bell-top. Cut it out oversized and then finalize its outer curvature. Then thin it down to the desired thickness and carefully cut the molded decoration into the edge. The center portion of the upper stool is cut out and the bell-top is glued to the outer portions of the upper stool. The munions are glued into place. I glued a shim on the back of the central munions to act as a glue surface for the lights. The outer lights are simple to make, as they are simply parallelograms. The central light has an eyebrow top, matching the bell-top. I steam bent the wood to the correct shape. Actually, I did this several times. Each window was built from the same template and after gluing and drying each window was slightly different...and none of them fit the opening. Therefore it was on to Plan B. I made the frame without gluing the bent top piece. This would be added once the rest of the frame was secured into the opening. The windows are glazed with mica.
  7. Congratulations on finishing this very interesting build. Looking forward to your next project.
  8. Sorry for the late reply, Maury. Yes I am using the Sculpty for a prototype. It has made getting the correct shape, both exterior and adjacent to the hull, easier. I initially thought that the upper part of the cornerpiece was a dog. One of the stories about Atalanta involve her hunting a bear with a group of men. One of the contemporary carvings shows hounds with the hunting party. The more I thought about it, I decided that the animal is a lioness. She and her husband Hippomenes had sex in one of Zeus's temples and were punished by being turned into lions. At that time it was felt that lions could not mate with each other, only with leopards. I am in the process of fabricating an oversized sculpture of a lioness and will post that when I am happy with the results.
  9. Thanks to everyone for supporting MSW. And a special thanks to our new NRG members. Tasmanian, the donation box goes to PayPal. You can insert any amount. If you have any problems, contact Kurt or myself. Aviator, if you are able to use PayPal you can help too.
  10. NEVER put your personal email address in a post. You never know who or what is lurking. To contact Tom directly, send him a PM with your address in it so no one else has access.
  11. I have started the dreaded quarter pieces. On Atalanta they have an upper 3-D carving of a dog (jackal?) and leaves and flowers in relief on the outer and stern sides of the lower section. Even though I finished out the gallery on both sides, because there is no planking on the starboard side I am only planning on making the port quarter pieces. I also made the decision to make this in two pieces. The upper piece will comprise the dog and the lower piece the relief carvings. The first step was to use Sculpty clay to form the quarter piece. I would then use this as a template for the lower piece and a guide for the upper. Because this is a long, skinny piece it was difficult to remove it from the hull without distortion. The instructions say to bake for 30 minutes but I removed it after 15 minutes and let it cool on the hull to minimize the distortion. I have already started to draw the shape of the dog onto the clay. The next step was to make the lower piece. This ended just below the window sill decorative molding. I was able to use the shape of the clay as a template. The carvings curve inward as one goes inferiorly. I will probably complete and install this piece before starting to make the upper piece.
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  13. Thanks for the link, Danny. I've already looked at it a few times. I am jealous about the quarter piece on Vulture...it was a simple piece of molding. Mine is a carving some type of animal and a few other things thrown in just for fun.
  14. The pilasters are finished and installed. Once the middle carved section was completed, the upper and lower parts were made up of various sizes of stripwood. A coat of finish has been applied to the taffarel and all the parts that needed replacing. The dreaded quarter pieces are next.
  15. Thanks, guys. I am still finding little things that need fixing. Overall, I probably spent 30 hours on the repair. Mike, I think I just got lucky with the lighting that day. Almost all my pictures are taken using ambient lighting, occasionally with supplemental flash. That day was bright but overcast so there was little shadowing. Greg, thanks for reminding me of my last close encounter of the klutzy kind. The ridiculous thing is that she travels with me on the back seat of the car every other week back and forth from where I work. No problem. Two rambunctious dogs...no problem. Myself, alone at home, nothing annoying me...problem!
  16. The munions between the stern lights are covered with carved pilasters. Some of the Swan Class ships had simple reed decorations but not this one. I will need to make a total of 10 of them. I considered making a master from clay and casting them but that would require painting them. I will try carving first. Please remember that the full size of the carved garland is 10 mm. Therefore I have decided to take an impressionist approach to their carving. If they are all similar it will give a good impression of garlands. As yet another break from carving I make the quarter rail. Because of its length I made a simple joint at the support piece above the gun port and a scarfed joint at the center swivel gun mount. It is bolted to the swivel gun mount, leaving an airspace between the rail and gun mount. The scroll was carved using the plan as a template. The distance between the planksheer and the quarter rail diminishes as one goes aft. Back to the carving!
  17. Maury, I guess it is a good thing that I don't have too much mass! Thanks everyone for looking in. Now back to carving.
  18. Thanks, everyone. My progress will be directly related to my frustration index with the carvings on Atalanta!
  19. Must be that "warmer near the lake" effect as our local weatherfolk are fond of saying. Even my scilla haven't started blooming.
  20. It has been another long time since posting but I have two excuses. First, I went on an extended vacation and started Echo because of ease of transport. Second... The second reason is a combination of funny and terrifying. I had Atalanta sitting on the floor in preparation for taking some photos. I then tripped on willow-the-wisp and fell into the model inflicting a significant amount of damage to Atalanta. This included resetting every cannon, installing a new quarter deck rail, new side moldings and several other minor repairs. Three weeks later I am able to post the photos that I hoped to take on that fateful day. The tafarel carvings have been installed and the assembly has been glued and pinned to the stern timbers. The rail was fabricated from five pieces of wood. The relationship between the caprail and the quarter deck rail was difficult to see on the plans. I hope I built it correctly because I am not doing it again!
  21. The lower part of the well and lower deck beams have been temporarily installed. The well is still missing the finishing touches like the hinges on the doors. There are pins extending from the corners of the well into the bottom of the lower beams. Once completed, the mast step will be almost invisible (but we will all know it is there).
  22. Cliff, from here on out it will be progress in fits and starts. Atalanta is still my first priority.
  23. I hesitated starting this topic in the Echo Cross Section area because it will not really be a build log and it will probably take a long time for me to complete. In 2012 I had the pleasure of taking the Echo course presented by David and Greg. Over that weekend I was able to raise two frames and purchased the completion kit which included necessary wood, armament and a CD with the plans. Atalanta has taken me longer than anticipated to complete and Echo has been ignored. I knew I would be traveling this month and did not want to risk injuring Atalanta but when I considered a month without sawdust but when the thought precipitated anxiety attack and I picked up Echo. My eventual plan is to completely plank the starboard side and leave the port side open. The primary wood will be costello boxwood with the lower hull planking in holly. All my frame components were rough cut prior to leaving home since the only power tools traveling with me would be a Dremel and my little Preac saw. Those two frames I built in 2012 could not be used in the actual model because the actual scantlings were different than those used in the course. Let me describe some of the highlights of the hull. There is one gun port, a sweep port and two scupper ports. The sills of the gun and sweep ports are parallel to the water line but the scupper ports angle upwards to facilitate drainage. There are two cast frames that help form the gun port. The top of frames 4-aft and 5-aft are tapered in preparation to forming them into stanchions. The keelson was installed and bolted to every other frame. The starboard ceiling planks and lower deck clamps have been installed. On the port side I installed the limber strake and the thick stuff over the floor and first futtock head joints. Everything has been treenailed with bamboo.
  24. Longboat in 1:48 from the MS kit, heavily bashed. And you may watermark, copyright, etc. If the files are not large enough, let me know.

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