Timmo

Great work BE.

I've drifted away from ship modelling for a bit so missed most of this build an am having a great time catching up. Fine work indeed on a fine kit. You've nailed the aesthetic of the period. I'm seriously considering a Vanguard kit now as scratch building's so time consuming.  

I'm really coveting your vessel here Jason. It's everything I wanted to try with an Artois-class before being distracted by my 1/36 Enterprise (which has been but back on the stocks with some frame shaping done, although nothing worth posting).

Our puppy chewed the corner of my Anatomy of the Ship Diana book on a low shelf the other day and briefly reminded me of what could one day still be. I suspect I'll end up just watching your superior build! 

Nice work Jason. I'll be looking to appropriate that volute solut-ion (geddit?) for future work. 

The colour tones are looking great on the hull too.

9 hours ago, HardeeHarHar said:

Hey Wayne,

Thanks for the reply and the kind words on my build log.  As you are aware, I have unashamedly adopted several of your approaches in my ongoing Granado build.  While I cannot replicate them with as much skill as you possess, your ideas have been able to help make a difference in the quality of my efforts in a good way.  Now having looked back at the way you have displayed the mortars, I think this might be the way I proceed as well.  It seems to convey some action is happening with the 2nd mortar being put into commission....right?  I also can't say this enough:  your display is awesome.  

Thanks mate, much appreciated.

There's very few untried ideas out there, just ones that are refined by further use after being taken from others. I got most of these ideas off the fine builds on this site so it's nice to hear they are again helping others here. Keep up the good work.

Also, if you dangle a mortar canopy as I did, you might want to put a weight of some sort on the underside to put a realistic strain on the hoist cables. I used some lead foil folded over a couple of times as it could be kept out of sight.

Looking good there Brian. 

I've responded to a couple of Qs back on my build log.

Wayne

On 8/26/2022 at 1:38 AM, HardeeHarHar said:

Hey Wayne,

Hope all is well with you.  While I am working on installing the cannons with all their gun tackle I thought I would take the opportunity to ask a quick question on the Granado that has been bugging me for about a year now:  Where did you squirrel away the canopies to the mortars.  Did you just suspend the one (which looks so nice!), and the other 3 went back into the box?  It appears to me that there is little to no room for stowing them in any fashion that wouldn't look haphazard, and I don't think it would look much better having all 4 suspended.  I will look at Joe's and some of the other build logs to see how they worked this out, but I thought I would see if I could get your line of thinking on this...

Best regards,

Brian

Hi Brian, 

Sorry about the delay in response. I've had the ship building on low-rotate for a while and don't get back here too often. I do intend to return to future builds though and love still looking at the fine work on this site.

In answer to your questions- I think I still have the canopies in a box somewhere. I harboured visions of using them along with a jolly boat and other miscellaneous bits incorporated into the display like the dropped anchor but never quite got there. I just wanted to show a mortar 'run out' and another more tidily stowed. Asthetics over realism there. 

Also I just glued them onto the deck.  Thanks for the kind words about the compsition on the display there. I'd bought the plans from NMM and then couldn't justify the expense of framing so came up with incorporating a colour scan of it into the ship modelling.

I don't understand the shipping restrictions at present. I recently got a parcel from Hungary in about a week via UPS. I tracked the flights out of curiosity and there seemed to be plenty.

That is really quite something Reg. Such nice work

Lovely clean decks there Reg. Nice work.

Hi Reg,

Any change in the shipping situation? Keen to see more of your fine work and I’m also at a loose end and considering starting a Winnie.

Reg, Have you tried NZ post Youshop? 

You get USPS or whoever to ship to the NZ Post depot inthe US,  Oregon I think, and they onsend it from there. It caters for all the people like us at the quiet end of the earth that some people won't ship to or those who only do domestic.

I've used it before with goods from companies in the States that use one of those mad US Postal service calculators that makes the shipping 10x the cost of the item. It's worked well without much cost.

However, the item probably needs to be commercially packaged/ labelled. as I suspect it relies on scanning tech. I tried it once for a friend in the states sending me some scale rope in an envelope with a handwritten address and coding for the depot and it disappeared.

That’s great work and a string of very educational posts Jason. Glad to see her back underway. 
The spreadsheet idea seems so obvious and is something I’ll store away for future. 
Coincidentally I’ve been fitting decking to a 1:1 scale sailing dinghy and spent a day working out tapers and spacing for a measly five planks. 

Good work Reg. That's a busy looking gundeck of very tidy weapons.

This is really quite incredible quality.

Lovely work Reg. 

10 hours ago, HardeeHarHar said:

Timmo, your handiwork is amazing.  I also noticed that you had a beautiful schnauzer pup in one of your pics.  Always glad to see a happy fuzzy face.....we have two schnauzer first mates, and they do love boats!

Ours seem to be fairly salty seadogs.  Here's one in the canoe. 

It's been a while but Enterprise sits with her masts finished but stored and her framing and building stocks safely hidden away. 

Here's the reason...  my new boat is taking shape- a 14ft ilur class sailing dinghy. 

Hoping to have her launched around the end of the year and then back to the Enterprise next year at some stage once I need something to build again. Also, after spending all the family treasure and garage space on this one I'll need to reduce scale of size and money again. 

Nice work. That's a beautiful chequered floor.

In the 8 months since I put my scratch build down for another project someone's turned up offering a kit!

I can't recall what I did at this point, probably 1x4 trimmed down(?), but that scrap piece you did looks like a good flush fit so my suggestion would be go with what works.

The build is looking good.

I’m continually impressed whenever I check in on you build Reg. That’s money well spent in your expert hands and you are also answering questions I’ve been wondering about like the fruitwood gel. Eagerly awaiting more.

That’s lovely work Jason

Nice work.  The beech looks nice and crisp next to the pear.

On 7/28/2020 at 4:26 PM, JerryTodd said:

By-the-way, A German fellow (I think) did an RC Enterprize a few years back.  I don't know what scale it is, I think it's 1:48.
Here's a video he posted some years ago, and I haven't seen anything from him in some years now.  That's an on-board camera on top of the boats, he's posted that video as well.

 

 

Thanks Jerry. That's really helpful. I'm not the first to want to make an Enterprize go then! Ah well. 

That's a really nice rendition he's got there and very stable in the water. My Harrier still bobs and heels a lot more than I'd like but I can't really ballast her any further as she's a little lower in the water than accurate. 

By my maths on his comments about frame width his Enterprize might be close in size to mine.  Interesting he seems to do well with what appears to be all masts rotating together rather than an independant foremast. He gets some massive rotation angle so that's likely the secret there.

Anyways... The sideways servo mounting you mention could be worth me revisiting when I get back to it as I hear what you say about the reduced slack. Harrier's braces work surprisingly well as horizontals with some rudimentary line guides, enough tension on the lines and equal rotation off and onto the drum through even distances to each side of the yard.

Plenty to think about there.   

I suspect I won't catch up to you before Macedonian is on the water and under her own power.

At the risk of looking like I’m easily distracted, Enterprise has been laid up on the stocks while I devote my time to a new project that’s been on the Wishlist for years. 
it’ll be a 14.5 ft ply sailing dinghy - an Ilur from French designer François Vivier. 
Hopefully it’ll look something like this: 

(pic: c Harlan)

my build will be here if anyone’s interested. http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?267473-An-Ilur-in-NZ

I’m looking forward to returning to Enterprise down the track and have picked up some kauri timber for the Ilur that I’ve thought about maybe saving for the planking on Enterprise. We’ll see. 

I’ll still be checking out MSW in the meantime. 
good luck all. 

Work has moved to the hull. 

The frames have been drawn up and cut out.

These are still solid at present but will have the middle cut out to leave a hollow frame. This will contain the cambered gun deck line.  On Harrier I did the same but ended up replacing them with stronger timber deck beams, especially around the hatches. I might do the same here but having the floor leave on ply is helpful for showing the level.

the deck is shown marked in red above. It’s about 5mm below the actual level to account for the 3mm false deck and then planking on top of that.

Here are the frames stacked up.

Fitting in the RC gear has been a big consideration of the build.

there is more internal space than harrier but the added complexity of a quarterdeck and also gun deck that needs to be pierced to make it accessible.

While spreading the servos out is possible it would also mean more hatches for access with the difficulty of getting through two decks. 

Some wooden servo blanks were made 

This is also gives an idea of what controls Enterprise will have. All are drum style sail winches with the exception of the spanker, which is a simple arm, as per Harrier. That worked well so I’m not going to change it up now.

There will be a single large access hatch the size of the centre of the gun deck from just fore of the mainmast to just short of the main bitts.

this means fewer holes in the hull and less waterproofing trouble.  Most of the control lines travel up the main and foremast so are within easy reach. The exceptions are the lines for the spanker and rudder, which will run through pre installed guide eyelets or pulleys below deck and be accessible at a stretch with tools. Harrier’s rudder has surprisingly needed no maintenance to date so I’m hoping for the same with Enterprise, but at worst the removal of one rear servo should allow plenty of room to get an arm in. 

The stem and keel have been has been cut.

A bearding line was continued up the stem for planks to slot into. Also joint lines were scribed in. This is largely one piece of timber, with just a 10mm extension epoxied on. It’s very strong and will get more so once planking and other parts tie it together. 

Recent work has involved cutting and test fitting the stern timbers for the gallery etc. that’s where things really get complex.