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Oh please be careful. This is too nice of a build to have it go south at this point!

I almost hate to say it Chris but those railings look fantastic! I'm kind of sorry I brought it up in the first place because of all the extra work and expense but darn, it really looks nice.

Using inexpensive straws as diffusers is pretty good. I will have to file that one away for possible future use. You are really coming along nicely with your build. Makes me think of pulling down my Q-Ship down from the shelf and doing it as well.

I am no expert on U-Boats, but I believe the major visible external difference between the two boats was that the U-534 was Snorkel equipped.

I didn't give you permission to post my latest attempt at a scale aircraft build Chris!.....................

Nice job on the rudders Denis I bet that getting them the same size was fun.

No need for that. Your skills do much to make it worthy of a better position than that........... Maybe the back of the shelf.

I have seen pictures somewhere that show the rear body panel just sitting on the ground behind the car while it was having something done to it. Great work Craig it is looking good sitting on tires at last, hope the decals work out. Did you paint the lower body orange over the aluminum monocoque chassis or did you do a white or black primer undercoat?

I agree with you Chris in that the model is available in the scale of the liners you have already chosen to model and therefore should be added to the "Set." Not so sure about the railings though. I know it would be a hassle and added cost but won't she kind of stand out next to the others without them? Toms Model Works and White Ensign both seem to carry them in that scale at somewhat reasonable prices.

I can't get over how perfect a match that orange is for the McLaren team color. I was pretty certain that the rear body was not going to fit. But with all that work on the engine who would want to cover it up anyway?

Certainly a different look than the liners you already have done but the quality is sure still there.

Auto pilot or not, the hanging mobile display is the perfect way to show these little guys off. I agree with Ken though, I think the Germans are going to win.

The U-570, (HMS Graph) a type VII was also captured and later operated by the British in three combat patrols against Germany before the end of the war. A couple of other U boats were also captured but sank before they could be brought into allied harbors. The U-505 was the only u boat captured by the US.

It looks like I may be trying a smaller working arrangement soon and with such I also may need to make some kind of smaller tool storage arrangement that I do not presently have. Something like this may be just what the doctor ordered. We need to see how you put it to use Jack.

They look a lot bigger than when you showed them to me the other day Carl. Nice to see them in detail close up!

Take care and give a holler if you need anything. I'm just a little ways up the road.

Looking good Denis Most of the issues you are running into are because you are installing RC running gear as scale. The cast strut is old school and the nylon more resent. The rudders are strictly intended as RC as when building a running model you commonly need larger rudders to get the turning performance you need. Plus I think you bought two running sets so you got two rudders instead of one, again old issue and new. As you know the real boat had three props and rudders with 28" props. That would work out to 35.5mm at this scale or just under 1 1/2 inch.

Quite a stunning difference.

The question of the year. Possibly the most debated color in not only modeling but for the real cars as well. No one seems to have a definitive answer of just what is the proper color for McLaren Orange! The big problem is that the closer you get to the real color it reacts just like the real color did, and seems to change as the lighting does. Your color choice under the lighting you took these pictures looks dead on Craig. Not too light and orange, and not too red. At least on my computer. Congratulations.

WOW their list has expanded considerably since I contacted them a few years ago. Box 7 either didn't exist or was not even identified! While I agree with Ken on box 7, there is still a possibility that there is additional research, letters between Brownell, Walsh, and Davis and research on Hudson Sloops or Rhode Island Sloops in the other boxes. I hope they are more accommodating in person than they were in emails. Are you sure you don't need to make an appointment?

Mystic is just a possibility Ken. No guarantee that anything is there. I think that when I was doing my research a couple of years ago they listed their Davis papers as four or five boxes. I was unable to determine if they have gone through those boxes or not. The may not let another person do it either. But if it comes to it let me know in case there is a financial burden in looking for or obtaining the plans and I will contribute my share as well. When I kind of gave up due to my being here on the left coast instead of the east colonial states and only being able to contact a few people with great difficulty like Millar, i had come to the conclusion that the more likely location for the plans would be in the John Brown House and possibly other locations in the RI area where there would be much more interest in preserving something like that. I even suspected that Millar may have seen them just as I am certain that he knew of them, but he was really only interested in telling his story of the present day Providence and his involvement so I considered that a dead end as well. Whittholz may have also seen or had the plans as well and used them as a starting point or reference for the present day Providence as there is really not all that much difference in the Davis/Brownell models and the present day ship but as he is dead that may be impossible to track as well. Another possible source of information I have considered but not really followed up on is works done by artist and maritime historian Hewitt R. Jackson for the book Log Of The Union John Boit's Remarkable Voyage. This is a very unusual book as it is both written as a historical document by John Boit in 1794-96 and edited by Edmond Hayes in 1981. On page 127 at the back of the book, Jackson writes several pages of information and provides sources and a copy of page 5 of the plans he developed for the Union, a sloop almost certainly similar in both size and design to the Providence. He also considers the drawing of the Lady Washington by Robert Haswell to be a sloop of the same if not identical type. He goes to some length to to give credit to Davis's plans of the Providence as being a great influence on his plans as presented throughout the book, and one look at the plans and the Brownell/Davis models and it is plain that they are indeed related. While not strictly a reference book on the Providence, I would consider this book a primary research book for anyone interested in the Providence, Lady Washington, Experiment, and of course the Union or any other Hudson Bay Packet or sloop of the late 1700s in the same way that we are discussing in this build. I was disappointed to discover that while Jackson lived in Kirkland Washington only fifteen minutes from where I live, he died in 2007. I have yet to locate where or how to contact Edmond Hayes.

Hi Ken I think Mike is right. I down loaded this document a couple of years ago and have printed out a few of the 21 pages for my files a couple of times. I have never printed the complete document, but it is just a normal PDF scan of the original. Unless you have a full version of Adobe you can't convert it to a Word file or make alterations but I am pretty certain you don't want that anyway. Like you I am hoping that at some point the plans produced by Davis/Brownell/Walsh. According to the 1943 RIHS article there was a set at the time of the article located in the John Brown House at the time of the article. "Those who find pleasure in the lines and model of a vessel will enjoy the plan and the photographs of the Katy as reconstructed and carefully prepared by ardent students of maritime history ; these plans may be seen at the john Brown House." If this is still the case then possibly our search will be over and copies can be obtained. If not then possibly someone there can steer us in the proper direction. One avenue I tried some time ago was the Mystic Seaport Museum where the Davis Papers are stored. Their reply was not only a long time in coming but was very curt in only saying they had nothing in their catalogue referring to the Katy or the Providence.

You AND my wife!

It wouldn't hurt on a display model either but is pretty much required on an RC ship of any kind made from wood. The periods of being outdoors and direct exposure to water combined to being placed on the shelf in a relatively warm home environment make for drastic expansion and contraction of the wood medium unless coated and protected.

Nice work Jack. good seeing you getting some progress in again.