Gregory
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I did a search for "Van de Velde yachts" images as suggested by Mark P, and sure enough, there are many examples of the double vangs.. I have decided it will be appropriate to include them on my model.. I hope to present some photos in the gallery before too long..
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Here is another video.. At about 5:05 we see the crewman working the pair by himself.. I suppose the two tackles would make it easier for one crewman to do the work..
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In the video that Hubert provided, at about 2:49, there is a crew member working a set of the vangs. We only see a few seconds. I would like to see what the whole operation was like.
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Like Frankie said, it is clear that only one is needed; but for a period, they were rigged with two.. It would be interesting to know what the reasoning was..
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That was my thought .. However, Jan makes the point that they were doing it for a while. The practice could have been started for some obscure reason. Maybe a boat was lost when a vang broke loose, and a survivor thought redundancy would be a good idea. I think I'm going to go with one. It caught my attention because it just looked too busy.. On the other hand, I may go with two, because for whatever reason, it does seem to be historically accurate during a certain period... Thanks for the movie Hubert.. I see the replica has the doubled vangs. It would have been interesting to see them tack.. I have to imagine they would slack off on one pair, work the other pair, then tighten everything down.. Thanks, everyone for your response..
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I'm finally getting around to completing the rigging on my Yacht Mary ( Mamoli ) and something seems odd to me.. ( above and beyond a lot of questionable details that seem common in a lot of kits ).. The rigging plan calls for two gaff vangs on each side of the boat. I would be inclined to write it off to a Mamoli embellishment, but I also see the same thing on this model of a similar boat, As well as this one, in our gallery.. What would be the justification for two of these on each side of this type of boat, or is it just some convention that was copied for no good reason?
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Do you have access to a printer? You could possibly use Tshirt transfer paper or decal sheet..
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With that little ship in mind, you might also consider The Lady Nelson.. Several great build logs here also. I don't believe you mentioned where you are, but you will notice the link I provided for Lady Nelson is Cornwall Model Boats in the UK.. While their shipping rates to the US may seem a bit high, the lower prices you will get for some kits , Like Sherbourne, usually will come in at a lower total cost, than the same kit +shipping in the US.
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Just a reminder.. If you bought the kit from ModelExpo, they will replace broken or missing parts for free.. -
Those hooks and blocks look very neat... I swiped your pic for future reference...
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May not be the best method at this size, but here is a method I use sometimes.. Blocks With Hooks or Eyes There are some caveats as far as penetrating into the sheave area, but it takes a little extra care and a good glue joint..
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I would try to help, but I didn't understand the question..
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...But not found on a cat head of an 18th century boat..
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The light colored wood band seen in your box art, would be the wales I believe..
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Wow! Putting that little cap on top of the timber is a nice embellishment that would be easy ( for me ) to mess up if you were trying to carve it.. I can see where this method would be great for a lot of situations.. Can't wait to try it on one of my models..
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Here is a quick release from Zu Mondfeld. It's not really clear how the anchor would be positioned to utilize this apparatus.
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I have to withdraw my earlier comment about not seeing the anchor cables around the windless on contemporary models. Here is one in the Gallery: English Naval Cutter P.S. Just looking at your lastest build pics, and I must say they are an inspiration. This is just my opinion, and possibly contrary to actual practice, but I think the hawser around one side of the windless doesn't look balanced. Even so, the workmanship as is, looks superb.
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From vossiewulf's link: " NASA pilots flying at NAS Patuxent River routinely intercepted and defeated U.S. Navy Phantom IIs in mock dogfights, until complaints from the Navy put an end to the harassment.
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Sounds very logical Kieth and Pat... With a capstan, it was just a matter of unshipping the spokes ( Is that what they are? ) and throwing a loop of the hawser or messenger over the capstan.
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When I say " contemporary ", it is in the sense of being contemporary with the type of ship, as with the original admiralty models and such. Not " today " contemporary .
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P.S. Here is one of my favorite examples, as depicted on a model. I thought I was looking at a full size ship the first time I saw one of the close ups of this model. Fore deck
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Well said welfalk.. I have not seen any turns around the windless on any contemporary models. I have seen the hawsers passing under the windless, headed for the cable lockers. I have seen a few kits, where the plans show a couple of turns around the windless. On a model, I think wrapping around the windless might serve an artistic purpose, and provide context for observers outside our ship modeling community.
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NY has a code for Piano finishes? 😵
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Great start! I'm a Mamoli fan. Were you aware there is a contemporary model in the Royal Museums Greenwich bearing the same name. The Mamoli model appears similar, but not identical..
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While you have received some great recommendations for other sources, have you considered modifying the one's you have. I have this kit on the shelf and I pulled out the belaying pins. If you have a small rotary tool with an adjustable chuck, it shouldn't be beyond the skill you have demonstrated with this kit.. Started with a fine file, and finished off with an emory board.. This was real quick, and I could have refined the final result a bit.. I would also add a little stain. Here is one I made from a tooth pick using the same method. Might be a bit long for this kit.
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