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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
druxey replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
And a happy festive season to you also, Pat!- 993 replies
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Well, obviously the limit is because of the tools available, not the skill of the model-maker! Perhaps Santa will be kind....
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Gunshot proof, no; but weather/waterproof, yes! Certainly Steel (British, 1805) describes the rabbeted style of port lid clearly. Either way, you are building a very lovely model.
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The thing is, in different countries and at different time periods the way things were done were not always the same. Also, secondary sources (modern books and models) can be misleading. Check contemporary models on sites such as: http://collections.rmg.co.uk/
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The inner layer of lid planking (the lining) is vertical and the outer layer follows the line of the outer hull planks in thickness. The inner layer is stepped back or rebated by the thickness of the port stops. The stops are the lining pieces attached to the lower port sill and frames on the sides of the port opening. They are set back by the thickness of the outer planking. Your photo shows these rebates clearly. There is no taper as shown in your sketch.
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I don't mind you painting your cannon any way you like, Alan. However, X years from now, someone will look at your model and say "Gosh, they must all have been painted like that!" and every cannon on every model thereafter will be gilded. And the rest of us will all have been wrong. Merry Christmas!
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Nice shiny monogram, but they never actually gilded them!
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Superb, Ed! The metalwork on those upper yards are quite a feat and you've achieved them beautifully.
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Welcome aboard, Dan.
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The butts should alternate, not be in staggered rows on adjacent strakes. This is inherently weak. One joint starts to go, and the rest will follow like unzippering! So, taking your example above: Strake 1 F, 6 2 C, 9 3 I, 3 Etc.
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Coming in as relatively unknowledgeable on this particular subject, the first thing that strikes me is the similarity between the 'primitive' stern view and the port quarter view. In both cases the lower port side quarter figure's trident and upper quarter figure's trumpet are clearly consonant, as well as the shape of the stern lanterns. Other items also are in agreement. These, it seems to me, would make these two images fairly reliable, surely? And both are different from the image positively identified as Monarque.
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Which may or may not have any resemblance to the real Marie Celeste....
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