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I would imagine that, whether the sovereign were present at a launch or not, the Royal Standard would be flown as the ship belonged to 'His (or Her) Brittanic Majesty'.
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Possible, Henry, but still difficult, I would think, given the length of line required. Jud; the crowfoot line was already a very light one (¾" circumference). One would still have the problem of reeving it which may have been done as Henry suggests and hauled taut as Mark described. Thank you everyone, for your responses!
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The bosun's chair would solve the tensioning and hitching off issue all right, Mark. But threading all those fathoms of line without tangling or snarling must have been a nightmare.
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While rigging some crowsfeet - a tedious task allowing plenty of time for thinking! - I began to wonder how on earth this was done in real life. A model maker can do this in the air. In reality this is some 40' 0" or more above the deck and a long way out from the front of the top. Does anyone know how this work was carried out by the old-time riggers? All I can think of was that the tackle was slacked off enough to enable the euphroe to be threaded while the rigger was on the top, but there would be many fathoms of line snaking all over the place and liable to tangle while this was being done. Even so, the tackle fall need to be heaved tight after the crowfoot was installed. The fall line was rigged in such a way as to point away from the top along the stay. How could this be done?
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Yes, that flag bothered me, Clare. That's why I queried it. I can't find any reference to such a design, though. Artist's license?
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None of the Artois class was named Hercules.
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Thanks for giving that url, Jason. I didn't mention the fine model of Mermaid, as the flags she flies correspond with the Cambridge and Buckingham images.
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Need help identifying this tool
druxey replied to Modeler12's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
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Your question aroused my curiosity, so I looked through the NMM paintings of ship launches. Apart from the well-known painting of the launch of the Cambridge, 1755 and Buckingham, 1751, with the flags in the sequence already mentioned, I found that this was not invariable (assuming artists' accuracy!). Royal Sovereign, 1701: (BHC2743) Blue Ensign(?) - fore mast Admiralty Flag - main mast Red Ensign - mizzen mast Sixth rate 1768: (BHC1045) Union Jack - bow No flag - fore mast White Pennant - main mast No flag - mizzen mast Red Ensign - ensign staff A brig of 1839: (BHC3447) Union Jack - foremast Red Ensign - main mast Red Ensign - ensign staff Venerable, 1784: (BHC1869) Union Jack - bow Admiralty Flag - fore mast Royal Standard - main mast Union Jack - mizzen mast White Ensign - ensign staff Nelson, 1814: (PAH9222) No flag at bow Admiralty Flag - fore mast Royal Standard - main mast Union Jack - mizzen mast White Ensign - ensign staff Three decker, c.1830: (BHC1915) Union Jack - bow White Ensign - fore mast Royal Standard - main mast Red Ensign - mizzen mast Blue Ensign - ensign staff I assume that the brig of 1839 was a merchant vessel, not naval. Any other evidence that anyone has come across?
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druxey replied to KevinR's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1901 - Present Day
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Yes, each monarch had/has their own Standard. You can find the variations for each on the 'net. I doubt if a small vessel would have had much if any ceremony upon launching. I've wondered the same myself: how did they cope with a two or one masted vessel?
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This question puzzled me for a while. However, photos of models and paintings of 18th century launches in the NMM clarified this. There is a special ensign staff mounted at the bow just aft of the figure. It seems to be mounted through an eyebolt on the aft side of the lacing piece (between the hair brackets). The flags flown are: Union Jack (bow) Admiralty flag (fore) Royal Standard (main) Union Jack (mizen) Red Ensign (ensign staff) The ensign staff at the stern appears to be the regular one, and the other staffs are mounted in the mast positions.
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PLANKING STEAM TANK
druxey replied to Walter Biles's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
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I've just found your log, Giampiero. That is terrific work, especially the tricky job of matching the run of strakes above and below the waterline. Very, very nice!
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PLANKING STEAM TANK
druxey replied to Walter Biles's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Great story, Walter! However, that might be overkill for modelmaking sized pieces of wood. I've never had any issues bending wood using the steam from a kettle. -
Very nice solution to the stern carved works, Ed. They look terrific.
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