Old Collingwood

Just a quick  update  on my  next move  on this  -  I am  still   working  on the figures  that can be placed  on the  dio  sections  done, so that   will  be my Two  Laife Guards  they still  need  painting  and  weathering before  being cut away  and  glued down on the roadway   near to the  Two 95th Rifles,  then I really need  to  think about  doing  some more  scenery  as   there  is  the  back end  that  needs  my grass  -  some  headge  near the  cottage garden  and   groundworks  in the  garden  (grass  -  soil beds).

So still   quite a bit to  do  yet   (I also  think  it needs  more French  as  there  was   loads in real  life)   these I need  to   get  as  I have used  what I  have.

OC.

41 minutes ago, CDW said:

Yep that will  do  nicely  Craig   -   really impressive.

OC.

Just to  add  another   angle  -  I think  I  sanded  and shaped  by  bulkheads  to  run flush with the  deck  -  but  we all  tackle  the same situation  from a  different  way.

OC.

The   general way  to  do  it  is  to  glue the  hull  planking onto the  face of the  frames  after they  have been faired  to take off  the  hard edges  especially  towards the  bow and stern, if you dont do this  the planks will  not follow a  smooth line  where they  need  to  bend up and around to  the  bow  and  stern.

OC.

40 minutes ago, hamilton said:

I always start hull planking at deck level - the top edge of the first plank you lay should be flush with the upper surface of the deck planking. Then I usually plank the bulwarks, and then line off and plank the lower hull. 

hamilton

Agreed  mate   -  think  I started  from the  deck level  as well,  was  trying  to  express  the need  to  plank the  hull  from the  deck level  up to  the  top of the  frames  before  planking the  deck.

OC.

8 hours ago, tennfox said:

Im starting see what you mean... It looks like your bottom picture.. The walnut strip (1st one) is recessed into the BH and laying on top of the deck so the walnut is flush with the deck and BH.  Did you have to soak that strip  to get the bend for the bow so you could mark it or was clamping it sufficient??

by cutting into the bh, doesnt that mess up the transition from the double planking of the hull since those planks are not recessed?

 

As always you are tremendous help...Thank you

Do  you  mean  my  rows  of  first hull planking?

I  sat the hull planking on top  of the  frames  but  to help  secure the  planks  at the  bow  I did cut a  slight  groove into the head,  but as long as  you  achieve a  good   curvature  by soaking  the planks in hot water  (or  even  using a  plank  bending tool)   then you  might  not need  to  put a  grove in the  head.

OC. 

I faired the  frames  first  then  starting  from  the  poop  deck  I  started fittting the  first  planking  keeping them  level with the  tops  of the  frames,  I continued  from the  stern to the bow, working both sides  then i worked my way down till my  planks  where just below the level of the main deck,    then I cut  the  frames  from the inside  at the  same height  as the  deck  before  planking it.

OC.

8 minutes ago, tennfox said:

ok.. gonna have to process that a while..trying to figure out how that looks.... if i see it i can do it.

is that first piece of walnut supposed to be even or inline (looking from above) with the edge of the deck? is that why the instructions show it cut out?

Follow  the  line  and  tops  of the  frames    first,  if there is a  slight  gap  between  the  sub deck and  the  line of  outer planks  - it wont matter   as  your  deck planks  will  cover that,     you need  to  remove  the  frames  level with  the  sub deck  to get the  correct  inner beam, I have  seen  some builders  leave the frames in place and  plank the inside  walls  attaching the  planks  to the  frames  making the  inner  width from wall  to  wall   to narrow.

OC.

I  built  up  the  outer  planking  first  after  fairing the  bulkheads  (to get a  nice smooth  natural line of planks)   you   could  do  this  starting  from the  top  from the  Poop  deck Frames  and  work down  till  you  are just below the main deck  height.

Then  you  could  cut  the  inner frame  flat  with  the  deck  and  plank the  deck  from the  planks  both sides (not forgetting  you will  need  some  inner  wall  planks to  go  on)   that would save you  trying  to  fit  the  deck planks around  the  bulkhead frames  that would still  need  cutting back  to  your  outer  planking.

Hope that  helps.

OC.

Superb finish  on  that  -  love it.

OC.

Very nice work.

OC.

7 hours ago, Canute said:

Glad to see you're getting your modeling mojo back, OC. Sorry to read of your pet's unexpected death. Take some time to mourn. Even though it's a pet, it's still a part of the family.

Thank you  kindly Ken,  yep  its good  being back  on my dio,    although  the  pet who died  was not  ours  as such  (but used to  be)  we  used  to  babysit her  a  lot through the year  -  so she was  preatty close  to us.

OC.

6 minutes ago, chadwijm6 said:

Fabulous job OC. Incredible piece of work.

Thank you kindly.

OC.

31 minutes ago, king derelict said:

I’m sorry to hear about the loss of a pet. That’s the hardest part of having them. Hopefully you have a stack of great memories.

The dio just keeps getting better as the figures get added. The Rifles are really nicely posed. Fit my Sharpe images perfectly.

alan

Thank you kindly Alan,     yep  the idea  for  the  Two 95th  rifles  is -  as  they  where   firing from the  sand pit  facing the  road  and  the ridge above it, Two  of them  placed them selves  against the  wall  to get a  better shot.

OC.

31 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

Great work on the diorama OC.  I'm sorry to hear about your fur baby.  

Thank you  kidly Mark,   yep  I'm pleased  with  how  the  dio is  going.

The little dogs death was a  shock  happened  so quick.

OC.

3 minutes ago, Kevin said:

so much going on, lovely work

Thank you Kevin.

OC.

Very interesting  project.

OC.

Evening all,   a   few   more  pics  slightly  delayed  because  we had  some  bad news  regarding a  pet  we have  had spells  of baysitting  her  -  she died on Wednesday  after a  short illness.

Anyway -  I have  fitted  the  Two  95th  Rifles  loitering  along the  wall,  and  a  few  more  regulars  and  also  Colonel Claude Charlet  has  been placed  on the  road  directing  his  troups  (pic was  poor  due  to  low light  and  back light  from the  door window.

OC.

Its an excellent kit  of high quality  -  you  should  have a  good  time  building  her.

OC.

10 minutes ago, king derelict said:

As always the figures look terrific. Beautiful painting sir. It seems to me that there are two areas where figures fail in scenes; probably due to their relative inflexibility. Dead figures don’t slump into that final relaxation and it’s difficult to crowd the figures together. I think you have resolved both issues masterfully. 
The smoke generator is intriguing 

Great work 

Alan

Thank you  do much Alan,  yes  I found  using some heat  from a  hairdryer  made it possible  to  bend  the  figures  to  get some different  poses  -  like  bending backwwards or  on the  knees.

OC.

1 hour ago, realworkingsailor said:

Have you considered, perhaps, a model smoke generator?

 

https://www.walthers.com/smoke-generator-chimney-ready-for-model-buildings-667-117e
 

This one from Seuthe has been around a while on the market and is relatively inexpensive. With one or two hidden in the base of your diorama, at strategic locations, you could add some ambient smoke when you want to. 
 

Andy

Thanks  for that  Andy  -  interesting.

OC.

2 hours ago, king derelict said:

Great work Jack. I know how you feel about the vision. I am using +3.5 lenses and am constantly having to lift them to find stuff on the workbench.

Alan

Thats  my job,   when my admiral  speaks  to me  while  I have my  optovisor  on  - having to lift  them  to see  her.

OC.

1 hour ago, Javlin said:

Looking very good OC but something is amiss?.......................puffs.............of smoke!Good luck with that but it sure is cool!

Thank you  kindly,  alas   the  smoke  is  off the  table.

OC.

Just a  small itinerary  of what I have left  to  do  (unless  I add  other   figures  latter   should  I decide  to increase  numbers)  -

Place  the  rest of my  54th - 55th  ligne  and any  injured and dead  figures I have  and can  create.

Place  Colonel Claude Charlet  on the  roadside.

Create a  few  trees  in the  Orchard.

Finish off  painting  - weathering  my  Two  Lifeguards  then place them  on the  roadside.

Create  Two  95th Rifles  to  go  against the  wall on the  roadside at the  extreme Right  end.

Work on my  kitchen gardens  hedge then  put it in place.

Work on the  section of grass  and  dirt  on the  back  section  of  the  dio.

Place  my Four  Cuirassiers  on the  other side  of the  hedge  on the  dirt - grass   I have  just fitted.

Place my  pile  of  French  dead  near the  rear  barn  door.

Work  on the  small  area of  kitchen garden  including some grass  and  soil  beds.

Place  my  small  group  of  Luneburg  battalion  in the  garden area.

Place  my  5th  KGL Line   injured  in the  garden  area.

Work on  loose  odds  and  ends  -  loose  helmets  - Rifles - backpacks  etc.

Adding  any other  figures  I can make  up  out of  my stash.

Add some  more  dirtying up  in areas,  and   work  on some  water  in puddles  or  ruts  by  dirtying them  up first.

So  still a  fair  bit of work to  go.

OC.

You  are looking for a  smooth  rounded  route  to the  beak head  -  I took mine off  as  it  had weakened  from filing  into  it  to  slot the  planks  in,  but it was  just as easy  as long as  all planks  finsihed  level.

OC,