harlequin

right about time I got some rigging done.....the rugby world cup has ended badly for England so time to get the ropes out......for the rigging of course.

the long rigging road has started to be travelled.

right a few weeks off ….now onto the rigging...….

cool

5 hours ago, Thunder said:

I wasn't surprised to find that there would be persons from many different backgrounds and nationalities on the ship, after all Matthew Cabot was Italian and we had been trading with Africa and Asia for hundreds of years. Evidence from the Vikings shows this.

 

I hated the program. It could of been excellent but as usual these days it was produced to fuel certain persons agendas with little regard to history. I hate any prejudism and positive is just as poor. The outcome of the whole program was obvious from the start when the program's second sentence was to the effect of that it would be great if the persons on board were black. His last sentence of the program was that he had spent his whole career trying to prove that  persons of African origin were living in Britain during Tudor times. Hardly makes him unbiased. The scientific evidence was not much better. I was doing the deck planking on cruiser by this time so may of missed it but most of us have African origin in our DNA it is usually very low but we did all descend from the same people. So when the first tests suggested British they dug deeper. Finding the descendants of Grenville was the same, the excited little dance when one of possible hundreds of people found was a woman.

 

It didn't say much for facial reconstruction techniques either did it. How wrong were they the first time!!

 

Can't say I am surprised with the program but then it wouldn't of been aired if the results were different. 

 

I suppose, taking the risk to speak about what I thought of it will make people think I am prejudiced my self but I am not. Just would like History to be researched properly and not be bent to the demand of modern thinking. But I suppose history has always been written that way. 

tend to agree with a lot of what you say, and the personal agendas were blatantly obvious. As to whether it would have been shown if the results were different, not sure about that but again I probably agree with you on that also. You are not prejudiced in the way you think or what you say.  

20 hours ago, Wallace said:

Have I said how much I like that lathe..........

it does have its limitations but for the yards it is ok

Just watched a fascinating documentary of the Mary Rose and the DNA samples taken from several of the remains found on the ship after it was brought up from the Solent....it now transpires that fighting along side the English on board ship that day were at least two crewmen whose origins were from North Africa and from Italy and Spain..  Tudor England was more diverse than we realise.

seems only yesterday I was at the same stage

well there you have it...….all masts and yards completed....yards coloured black just need all the ropework.....Bellona....you nearly ended up in the breakers yard but we struggled on......only your rigging to go now.....what a 6 years...…...HMS Pegasus is beckoning.

last of Bellonas yards being turned on my minicraft lathe attachment, this one being the mizzen topgallant yard.....6 long years to this point. Rigging ahoy. 

your on the home straight now then....

some of the yards completed minus the blocks and ropework...will be onto the rigging soon. Main yards and sprit yards shown here.

3 hours ago, Dwight said:

And BTW where did you get that handy little thing. I've got a Unimat but too short to do much.

it is a minicraft lathe attachment....not made anymore but can be picked up on ebay…...the two rods are not long enough in the kit so i bought some stainless steel rods to extend the range of the lathe.  

Main top sail and topgallant yards.  Topgallant in the process of being turned.

2 hours ago, Bob Portsmouth said:

Harlequin, the post is in response to the apparent 'troubling concerns' a lot of builders are confused by, they obviously want the accuracy. I'd leave my timber's their natural colour. Personally I'll never build a first rater, I prefer smaller more graceful ships.

same here Bob......never coloured any of my timbers either.

single malt whisky cabinet.....and a decent heater...

yes spot on...the rest of the planking will replace the part of the false keel you remove.

Me....I am not bothered one bit about the accuracy of the kits I build...whether one colour is right or wrong or if this bit is right or wrong...My corel Greyhound and Victory have had little or no modifications to the materials supplied. Me I just enjoy my hobby. I am not a historian so details don't bother me.....I go to my workshop and just build, sometimes get frustrated and annoyed when things don't go right but it keeps be busy and whether my ships or accurate or not I really don't care.....I have a model that looks great to me. 

Is the real Victory accurate?....I don't know.....not a lot of people seem to know...so I accept the Victory in Portsmouth as having been a great battleship and historically important ....me I accept Her in all her glory.....right or wrong....I don't care....I don't suppose She does either.

Be thankful She is still with us......even if most of Her has been replaced over the hundreds of years of Her existence.

Just popped by for look at Black Pearl.....looks superb...the ghostly shades are perfect.

Pieter

Be careful though when you thin the false keel not to remove to deeply or you will have a very thin false keel. The first and second planking can also be sanded back to achieve the right result.

1 hour ago, peveka said:

Hi Harlequin

In your post from may 14th 2013 (let the planking begin) you seem to have done something to the area on the false keel below the transom. What was it and why did you do it? Thanks.

Cheers

Pieter

 

this pic demonstrates the reason for thinning the false keel.

1 hour ago, peveka said:

Hi Harlequin

In your post from may 14th 2013 (let the planking begin) you seem to have done something to the area on the false keel below the transom. What was it and why did you do it? Thanks.

Cheers

Pieter

 

if you look at the pic of the first planking in the next pic the first planks fit just below the false keel where the rudder will fit....this is due to me having removed or thinned some of the false keel in the area you mention.

I have trimmed the keel a little to accommodate the 2 layers of planking. The first planking has also been thinned in the corresponding area to ensure a nice smooth even contour down to  the area where the rudder will fit. 

he eats better than me.....

You wait for an anchor for 6 years then 4 come along at once.