Robin Lous Posted October 23, 2017 Author #451 Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) Finished the lower row of oars on one side and started with the top row... Top row not fixed yet, because I need to add the loops to attach them to the tholepins. Must figure out how to do that first. The lower row of oars took me whole day. It wasn't a walk in the park. The leather sleeves were a real pain to install and I broke off an internal beam with tholepins. Retrieving it from underneath two rows of seats was a challenge...glueing it back in place even more. But...it's done and I learned from it, so the other side will be less daunting...I hope. More soon, Robin Edited October 23, 2017 by Robin Lous mtaylor, EJ_L, cog and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Louie da fly Posted October 23, 2017 #452 Posted October 23, 2017 A really interesting solution to the problem of mounting oars. I've been pondering the same problem myself for some time and I'm taking inspiration from yours. The dromons had the leather sleeves as well, and I was thinking of using aluminium foil from the kitchen for both those and for the flags when the ship is finished. I don't know how it would compare with yours. Looking very good, and I love your case as well - shows the model off to its best advantage. Steven EJ_L, Robin Lous, cog and 1 other 4 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
Robin Lous Posted October 23, 2017 Author #453 Posted October 23, 2017 Thanks Steven! Aluminium foil is a bit tricky I think. Very weak and it crumples easily. For larger flags I don't think either of them will work. Maybe very thin styrene sheet, or perhaps (tissue) paper with pva glue and water? Today I finished one side and both the steering oars are on now also. I was still not 100% happy with the shield I made. The solid black rim...still a bit boring. So I took the shield off the ship and painted white triangles on the black rim. Looks very Greek, so I'm happy with it now. I take the rest of the day off. I've a bad cold, so I take it easy. More soon though...the finish line is getting closer and closer now. Robin rafine, cog, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
John Allen Posted October 23, 2017 #454 Posted October 23, 2017 On 10/21/2017 at 6:25 PM, Robin Lous said: And that was my first oar! Pretty slick indeed EJ_L, Robin Lous, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote John Allen Current builds HMS Victory-Mamoli On deck USS Tecumseh, CSS Hunley scratch build, Double hull Polynesian canoe (Holakea) scratch build Finished Waka Taua Maori War Canoe, Armed Launch-Panart, Diligence English Revenue Cutter-Marine Model Co.
cog Posted October 23, 2017 #455 Posted October 23, 2017 A serrated shield, nice touch. Stay well, take care of that cold Robin EJ_L, Old Collingwood and Robin Lous 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Torbogdan Posted October 24, 2017 #456 Posted October 24, 2017 Instead of tinfoil try to use lead foil. It can be bought in well sorted hobby stores or, of course, over the internet. The best way to obtain tinfoil is to buy a nice bottle of expensive wine. Lead foil is used to seal the cork in the bottle. So carefully remove the lead foil and use the bottle and its contents during a nice dinner. Led foil is thicker and much "sturdier" it will keep its shape and does not crumble like aluminum foil. In Sweden we have something called "oven foil" it is aluminum foil but thicker than "ordinary" aluminum foil. Maybe that can work? EJ_L, Robin Lous and cog 3 Quote Built ships http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13384-the-pinta-by-torbogdan-dusek-shipmodels-172/ http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13673-hanse-kogge-by-torbogdan-dusek-ship-models/page-5#entry458535
Robin Lous Posted October 24, 2017 Author #457 Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Thanks guys, the support is not only appreciated. Without...this build would likely have ended in the fireplace shortly after opening the box! Anyway, with a severe man flu to deal with...I treated myself to a small fun job. The flag! Now...a flag is a flag, but 550 BC...flags were still a bit different. On Greek ships anyway. Like this... Strange flags.... Not sure what to make of this. Probably a frame of twigs tied together...covered with fabric. It can even be something like a tube shaped wind vane or like a horo on the back of a samurai messenger (Google that lol). After some trial and error I made this... And now painted and with a couple of streamers... The colours can be anything, but I payed a tribute to the Greek black pottery makers. So, different shades of ochre and black A dry fit on the ship... Note: the ochre looks yellow on this photo, but that's because of poor lighting. The streamers are just painted paper. I'll bend the lower one a bit more and I'll make the pole shorther. After a final inspection...matt varnish and done. 6 hours work....was fun! Robin Edited October 24, 2017 by Robin Lous EJ_L, Torbogdan, John Allen and 8 others 11 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
EJ_L Posted October 24, 2017 #458 Posted October 24, 2017 Looking good Robin! I feel your pain with the sickness issue. Get well! Old Collingwood and Robin Lous 2 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild
Robin Lous Posted October 25, 2017 Author #459 Posted October 25, 2017 FINISHED I'll make better photo's for a gallery asap, but this is what it is.... Thanks for watching, thanks for the support, thanks Daniel Dusek, thanks to the Admiral for pretending she likes what I shown her during the build ..."look a 7 part rower seat!", "look! an oar!". It was a joyful ride...I love this kit and I liked to do all the modifications. Daniel Dusek did a fantastic job...I gladly build another (but different)! Thanks again guys...really, without this forum there wouldn't be a finished model! More soon...but something else! Robin Torbogdan, Barbossa, cog and 13 others 16 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
CDW Posted October 25, 2017 #460 Posted October 25, 2017 First rate! Love it. CaptainSteve, cog, EJ_L and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
Old Collingwood Posted October 25, 2017 #461 Posted October 25, 2017 Utterly Superb - what a fantastic job you have done. OC. Robin Lous, EJ_L, cog and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Mumin Posted October 25, 2017 #462 Posted October 25, 2017 Great job! You definitely should send some photos to Daniel for his webpage. cog, Robin Lous, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Quote
Robin Lous Posted October 25, 2017 Author #463 Posted October 25, 2017 Thanks guys! Mumin...I'll do that. Old Collingwood, EJ_L and cog 3 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Torbogdan Posted October 25, 2017 #464 Posted October 25, 2017 Great job! You should be proud of yourself. You have created a very fine shipmodel. EJ_L, Robin Lous, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Built ships http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13384-the-pinta-by-torbogdan-dusek-shipmodels-172/ http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13673-hanse-kogge-by-torbogdan-dusek-ship-models/page-5#entry458535
Louie da fly Posted October 25, 2017 #465 Posted October 25, 2017 You can be justly proud of this model. It's been an inspirational journey and I've learned a lot which I might be able to put to use in my own build. Steven Old Collingwood, Robin Lous, cog and 2 others 5 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
cog Posted October 25, 2017 #466 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Despite the set backs(?) - learning moments - you have created a beautiful bireme. She deserves to be displayed in such a wonderful case. Besides an inspirational build, it was fun to follow, and I picked up some knowledge (which I'll probably will forget again with my memory leak). Cheers Edited October 25, 2017 by cog Robin Lous, Old Collingwood, EJ_L and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Mike Dowling Posted October 25, 2017 #467 Posted October 25, 2017 I thoroughly agree with Carl - a beautiful build and well worth the extra effort you made with it. I congratulate you. EJ_L, Robin Lous and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi
EJ_L Posted October 25, 2017 #468 Posted October 25, 2017 Beautiful model Robin! This was a very fun build to follow along with. Take some time to savor the moment and admire what you have created. I'll be looking for the next build! Old Collingwood, John Allen and Robin Lous 3 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild
Baker Posted October 25, 2017 #469 Posted October 25, 2017 Robin, Congratulations with your finished model. Very, very, very beautiful. Well done. Old Collingwood and Robin Lous 2 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Robin Lous Posted October 25, 2017 Author #470 Posted October 25, 2017 Thanks guys! Robin Old Collingwood 1 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
zappto Posted October 25, 2017 #471 Posted October 25, 2017 Hight quality build, should be proud! Hope to see your next build soon! Robin Lous and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776
moreplovac Posted October 26, 2017 #472 Posted October 26, 2017 Hi Robin, excellent build, very informative log as well. Appreciate all your time you have put typing in and pasting pictures. I believe the next one is second Bireme kit, right Good luck with new build... Robin Lous and Old Collingwood 2 Quote
Robin Lous Posted October 26, 2017 Author #473 Posted October 26, 2017 Thanks again, I enjoyed writing the build log. I tried to explain why I made the modifications and how I did it. Because it's my first wooden ship build, I probably showed useless and way too much updates, but overall I think it's an informative log. Light hearted, not overly serious, but still to the point and with good photos and sketches showing what, why and how I added or modified stuff. The feedback was helpful and motivating. Sad some of the guys are gone by now, but maybe they have a break...like I had mine. I'm still not 100% sure what my next build will be. One thing is certain...I must tidy my workspace before I start something else. The mess I make is outright shocking! My mousepad right now...the rest of my desk is...worse! Probably the Duyfken from Kolderstok. And a larger photo of the finished bireme..2000x1500 pixels When I get the chance...I'll make some good photo's outside and make a gallery and send them to Daniel. Robin EJ_L, rafine, zappto and 6 others 9 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
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