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Posted

Nice work, Patrick. I like the way you've fixed the guns. They'll certainly never come loose! (and as you say, the screws will be invisible).

 

Beautiful detail work, as we've come to expect from you.

 

Steven

Posted

Thanks,

 

The crew will not have to worry about the recoil when the guns are fired.

Reloading will become somewhat difficult...

Posted

 

patrick, you might consider an outboard gunning crew ...

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

Posted
20 hours ago, cog said:

you might consider an outboard gunning crew ...

 

Carl

Believe it or not. Outboard loading was, at that time, more  a necessity than an exception

 

22 hours ago, md1400cs said:

As usual such excellent work indeed

Thanks,

 

Do you remember the discussion we had? How to load the 2 small cannons on the deck on your Vasa.

Maybe the text and images below show the solution.
Climbing overboard...

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:pirate41::stunned: 

 

Meanwhile, here in Belgium it is to hot to build modelships.  

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a drink a day keeps the doctor away :P

 

Posted
Posted (edited)

Patrick,

 

Yes I do remember indeed. Thanks for remembering as well as noting this "how it was done". I wonder if after several shots, the barrel got too hot for the poor gunners who had to straddle these iron guns?

 

Nice beer. Reminds me of my days living in London and enjoying a nice room temperature pint sitting outside at 10:00pm - and it still light and pleasantly warm  :cheers:

 

Regards,

Edited by md1400cs

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

Posted

Excellent approach !

Meaning your buildlog as well as the beverages !

About the latter : because of the heat I'm more into Liefmans Goudband or Kriek (Boon) 

For the same reason : my shipyard is on the attic ( almost 30° in the afternoon ) and shipbuilding is only to resume until september.

 

Cheers !

Kind regards

 

Christian

 

"The original always beats the copy"

(supportive statement)

Posted
On 15-7-2018 at 7:09 PM, G.L. said:

For me a Tripel as well please!

 

G.L.

come and get it  ;)

 

On 15-7-2018 at 9:24 PM, md1400cs said:

Patrick,

 

Yes I do remember indeed. Thanks for remembering as well as noting this "how it was done". I wonder if after several shots, the barrel got too hot for the poor gunners who had to straddle these iron guns?

 

Nice beer. Reminds me of my days living in London and enjoying a nice room temperature pint sitting outside at 10:00pm - and it still light and pleasantly warm  :cheers:

 

Regards,

Thanks Michael,

But beer at room temperature.

No no, in Belgium we drink cooled beer :P

 

On 16-7-2018 at 9:49 AM, Barbossa said:

Excellent approach !

Meaning your buildlog as well as the beverages !

About the latter : because of the heat I'm more into Liefmans Goudband or Kriek (Boon) 

For the same reason : my shipyard is on the attic ( almost 30° in the afternoon ) and shipbuilding is only to resume until september.

 

Cheers !

Thanks,

Kriek, also tasty.

 

It is still too hot here in Belgium (it is from 1976 ago that it has been so hot and dry here)
So building is slow. 

I started with the deck beams and the hanging knees.

 

The deck beams are made of cherry. They are 24 hours soaked in water and 24 hours clamped.

I made this a month ago to see if they kept the correct curved shape. Most remained correctly curved.

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Most deck beams are placed. The rear beams are not yet installed, first I have to put the helm in place

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Still much to do.

Did a test set-up of the deck with the main mast.

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Have to place LED lights and make lanterns (one prototype as a test, and for now not yet satisfied with the result).
etc, etc.

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Thanks for following and likes

 

 

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Hello,

 

Because of the exceptional warm weather in this part of the world and other urgent matters that came first, there is little progress to report.
But in the meantime I have succeeded in placing the LED lighting. The quality of this work can be much better. But, once the deck is fully placed above it, little of this will be visible.

The LED lighting is purchased just after Christmas and New Year. Then there is sale, 40 LED lights with battery holder for about 2 euros ($ 3?)
The lanterns are made of plastic sheet. Where the lighting remains visible, lanterns have been placed. Not at other places.


a first "prototype"

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There is still room enough to place the deckplanks above the lantern

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visibility through the cannon ports

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I do not think that in the 16th century there was one ship with so much lanters below deck as on my model ....

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Thanks for following and reacting (the like button is now a reacting button, i noticed 👍😉).

Posted

Go to see you can still rock & roll Patrick ... lovely view in the dark

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

Posted

Impressive lighting, Patrick.  You are rocking and rolling.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted
Posted
6 hours ago, canoe21 said:

Great work as I have come to expect from you and also full of surprises

Thanks Lawrence

 

 

I started with the rudder. 
Nobody knows if the Golden Hind had a whipstaff or not. They came into use somewhere in the second half of the 16th century. so adding one is not completely incorrect.

 

The rudder is made of 3 pieces of wood.

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The helm. I find 2 ways to attach the helm to the rudder. The helm passes through the rudder. Or the helm goes around the rudder
Possibilily 1 is apparently from a later period, from the beginning of the 17th century.
Possibility 2 seems to be the most common during this period. So this it will be.

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about in the right shape and bent.

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My roughly made rudder with the helm. Still a lot of sanding and detailing to do.

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Thanks for following

 

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hello everyone,

 

Thanks Ondras for the compliment.

 

Back from vacation and returned to the shipyard.

The rudder and helm are sanded and in the right shape.

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The upper part is collored and the lower part has a first light coat of white paint.

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Now further details are made. I started with the hinges, as always in plastic.
I would rather have made them in metal. But after a eye surgery, I have trouble viewing small metal objects under a lamp. All metal parts  shines so brightly that I do not see what I do.

Before folding the plastic, it is treated with thin plastic glue. This makes the plastic soft and bends easily. Gluing on the wood is with CA glue

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Thanks for following

Posted

Attach the rudder to the stern.


Making hinges.

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The plastic hinges will be a weak point. To fix this, copper pins of diameter 1mm are placed.

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Holes are drilled in the stern at the right place.

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A knock with the hammer, and the rudder is well fixed. This will not come loose anymore.

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Finish the hinges 

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A light layer of metal paint is first applied under the white layer.  The upper hinge is painted black.

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Bolts are attached on the helm.

Painting on the bottom in white and after some polishing and dry brushing the rudder is ready.

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I do not find any paintings or drawings from this period with chains or ropes attached to the rudder.
These will therefore not be applied.

 

Thanks for following

Posted

You could ask Jan (Amateur), he's quite knowledgable on Dutch ships

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

Posted

As always, I am very late in joining a build. This particular ship has always been of interest to me. Your built is beautiful, love the details. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hello everybody

 

@Carl Have it asked at Jan. We have the same opinion.

@ Marcus and Steven Thanks for the comments.

 

After installing the rudder are all deck beams in place. And i started with the holes for the hatches.  The width is approximately 120 cm (about 4 feet) on scale 1/1

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Work in progress

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A first test to see what it will look like.  The thickness of these deckplanks will not be visible later
I make it too thick, this will give extra strength to the deck

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Further finishing, the deck beam in the center of the hatch will later be removed later on

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To be able to lift the anchor there must be a capstan on this deck.
The capstan is build very basic. And is placed at the only place where there is still enough room left .

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Thanks for following

 

Posted

Patrick,

Just catching up. Indeed each of your postings supersedes the previous --- superb work. Your attention to period details are 

brilliantly executed as well.

 

Cheers,

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

Posted

Thank you all for following and comments.

 

It was a productive weekend. Wood has been sawn so that I can continue to build. 

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Further i thought about stairs to the underlying deck. And discovered that on some plans no stairs are provided at all.
Forget something? A mistake? 

Fortunately there is something provided on "my" Golden Hind 

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Thanks for following

 

Posted

This is just the coolest build!

 

Steve

completed models:

Shenandoah (Corel)

 

waiting on the shelf:

La Sirene (Corel)

Half Moon (Corel)

Puritan (Mamoli)

 

 

 

Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model."

Arthur: "Sshhh."

 

 

 

Posted

Hello,

I made these pieces last week. Everything looked good, but I felt something was wrong.

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I made the pieces too big. They are not in proportion to the model. :default_wallbash:

I also discovered that my cherry wood is not suitable for this application. The wood differs too much in color

So redo. Better and smaller next time :blush:

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Posted
On ‎9‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 4:15 PM, Backer said:

Further i thought about stairs to the underlying deck. And discovered that on some plans no stairs are provided at all.

Forget something? A mistake? 

Fortunately there is something provided on "my" Golden Hind 

 

 

Patrick, is that the kind of stair you are searching for?

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G.L.

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