mati Posted December 4, 2013 Author #31 Posted December 4, 2013 Thank you all for comments Continuation of hinges work... (coin is almost equal to 1 US cent) Cheers, Matt amateur, riverboat, ronkh and 8 others 11 Quote
mati Posted December 5, 2013 Author #32 Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) So forecastle and quarter deck doors has been done. Wooden parts covered using bees wax mixture...Metal parts preserved using microcrystalline wax... And quick look from the poop side... Cheers, Matt Edited January 25, 2015 by mati Ondras71, klimi, janos and 14 others 17 Quote
Anja Posted December 5, 2013 #33 Posted December 5, 2013 Beautiful work Matt. Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo
michael mott Posted December 5, 2013 #34 Posted December 5, 2013 Metal parts preserved using microcristal wax... Forgive my ignorance but what is "Microcristal Wax" ? Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
mati Posted December 5, 2013 Author #35 Posted December 5, 2013 Thank you Anja!Microcrystalline wax is special refined wax with no acid component. Provide a protective layer and helps to avoid oxidation, corrosion and preserve patina. Also conserve wood, paintings, lether... If I have good memory formula was created in British Museum and belong to them. I hope that I clear up your mind Best regardsMatt Piet 1 Quote
michael mott Posted December 5, 2013 #36 Posted December 5, 2013 Matt, Thank you for your prompt explanation. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
NAZGÛL Posted December 6, 2013 #37 Posted December 6, 2013 Wonderful build Mati! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa
druxey Posted December 6, 2013 #38 Posted December 6, 2013 Microcrystalline wax is much better than beeswax for rigging as well. Enjoying your build log very much, Mati, since I discovered it! Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Michiel Posted December 6, 2013 #39 Posted December 6, 2013 I also just found you log, Very nice indeed, looking forward to seeing more Quote Finished models: Botter, President Current: Prins Willem by the book of Ketting, HMS Beagle - OcCre restauration of a Statenjacht
mati Posted December 11, 2013 Author #40 Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) Thanks Guys for good wordsMeanwhile... came time to make masts... Cheers,Matt Edited January 25, 2015 by mati qwerty2008, msberkman, Zbigniew and 3 others 6 Quote
WackoWolf Posted December 11, 2013 #41 Posted December 11, 2013 Your doing an Excellent job. Please keep the post and Pictures coming. Than you. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
amateur Posted December 11, 2013 #42 Posted December 11, 2013 Real wood ? I like your plane: how large/small is it? Jan Quote
tarbrush Posted December 11, 2013 #43 Posted December 11, 2013 Hi Mati, I just found your build log and am amazed at your work! I love this era of Dutch ships and I think this is the best model of one I have ever seen. Very inspiring. Will be watching your progress eagerly. Thanks for doing this build log. Quote John future build: to finish Mary Rose http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8507-mary-rose-by-tarbrush-scale-172-1545/?hl=%2Bmary+%2Brose completed builds: Constructo Steam Launch Louise
mati Posted December 11, 2013 Author #44 Posted December 11, 2013 Jan Dim. of the plane L 85mm and W 35mm Very good and sharp friend for that kind of work If you would like to find the same, plane is made by KUNZ, and I belive it will cost about 20 euro. ...and thank you very much guys for nice comments I'm trying to do my best... Best regards, Matt ronkh 1 Quote
WackoWolf Posted December 11, 2013 #45 Posted December 11, 2013 I have the same plane. I got it at "WoodCraft" a few years ago. Good price, can't remember how much but wasn't as much as what I have pay for the ones I got from "Lee Valley" Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
Mike Y Posted December 11, 2013 #46 Posted December 11, 2013 That is exactly how Wasa should look like before King ordered to add a second gundeck.. Amazing! Love that kind of ships, and that build is impressing, like "maybe someday I will be able to do something like this" Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
Zbigniew Posted December 12, 2013 #47 Posted December 12, 2013 Mati a beautiful professional job. Quote
mati Posted December 17, 2013 Author #48 Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Thank you fellows for positive comments!Last two days I spend with figurehead. Which is lion I used laotan boxwood. Fantastic material for carving.I'm quite pleased with final effect... that was my first carved figurehead and to my astonishment witout scrap And some tools which I used for carving...Without any fancy stuff... Best regards, Matt Edited January 25, 2015 by mati Piet, riverboat, RdK and 16 others 19 Quote
mtaylor Posted December 17, 2013 #49 Posted December 17, 2013 Beautiful work on the figurehead, Matt. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
mati Posted December 18, 2013 Author #50 Posted December 18, 2013 Thanks Guys for nive comments.Janos, I covered figurehead with mixture of bees wax, terpentine and asphalt and after when dried out I add some more dirt effect using bitumen. Quote
AnobiumPunctatum Posted December 18, 2013 #51 Posted December 18, 2013 Really wonderful figurehead. Well done Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Ilhan Gokcay Posted December 18, 2013 #52 Posted December 18, 2013 Perfect, I like it very much. Quote _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ilhan Gokcay In progress: Loreley Steam Yacht 1884 , Scale:1/75 (Build Log) Finished: Matthew 1497, Scale:1/50 (Build Log) , (Gallery) Istanbul Kayığı (Coastal trade vessel of Istanbul) 18 th c. Scale : 1/50, Scratch built (Build Log) , (Gallery) Mayflower 1620, Scale 1/60, Scratch built (Build Log) , (Gallery) My FlickR pages (Ship models, build logs, tools, other photos) My Facebook group (Gemi Modelciliği Grubu - Ship Modelling Group) Ilhan Gokcay
amateur Posted December 18, 2013 #53 Posted December 18, 2013 asphalt? My first idea with asphalt is 'roads'. Do you have a link? Jan Quote
klimi Posted December 18, 2013 #54 Posted December 18, 2013 Great work Quote current build: Bounty http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/261-hms-bounty-by-pavel-klimes-160-scale-armed-merchant-ship/
mati Posted December 18, 2013 Author #55 Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) Jan and that is exactly what I'm using. Common pure asphalt... very very dense.I have friend who got for me a jar of asphalt. He's employee in one of petroleum refinery. Unfortunately I don't have any link to any web site where you can buy it. Generally the reason why I add asphalt to bees wax mixture is to gain more vintage colour of wood.And it's really works But like a replacment for asphalt you can use wood tar (e.g. birch) Matt Edited December 18, 2013 by mati Anja 1 Quote
Anja Posted December 21, 2013 #56 Posted December 21, 2013 What a beautiful figurehead Matt. My compliments to you. Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo
michael mott Posted December 21, 2013 #57 Posted December 21, 2013 Matt the figurehead looks beautiful, I like the finish that you have achieved. can you give us the formula or the proportions of how you prepare the finish wax? Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
mati Posted December 21, 2013 Author #58 Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Michael,Of course I can give you formula.You need bees wax, paraffine, terpentine, extraction naphtha, rosin and natural soap and you need to add also some dark colour so I'm using birch tar or asphalt.As regards to proportion... here situation is more complicated...You need to take more or less the same amount of wax and parish and cooked with liquids (don't allow to boil... otherwise you gonna play like a fireman ... I recomend to use electrical cooker) and other components. Let it cool down and then try how it's work. You just need to try to do it and draw conclusions becouse process of making and covering is quite problematic and the best way to understand it is to get dirty I saw somewhere into the abyss of MSW that somebody already showed very similar mixture very recently... but I don't remeber where Good luck Thank you ALL for very nice comments!Cheers,Matt Edited December 22, 2013 by mati riverboat, RdK and themadchemist 3 Quote
themadchemist Posted December 22, 2013 #59 Posted December 22, 2013 Hello Matt You have a beautiful build going on a magnificent vessel. Your carvings are amazing and I especially like the carving in the stem. On your recipe for the beeswax finish you mention parish? I'm not sure exactly what that is, could you give further information. Also I was wondering is the rosin added for colour or other properties. Also the same with the soap, what properties does it impart? I also was wondering if you have ever used carnauba wax in a mix as I read it helps create a harder surface? I have also seen boiled linseed oil used in some recipes, do you have any experience with that. Sorry for so many questions, but as you said, one must get there hands dirty and experiment and I am in the process of gathering ingredients for testing. Knowing what properties each ingredient imparts helps in making the correct mix. Thank you for any advise you can give and also for sharing your Dutch Pinnace build Papegojan. Quote
mati Posted December 22, 2013 Author #60 Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Keith, I don't know what's happened but should be paraffine not parish haha... just some mistake... Rosin 'll give plastic properties... but don't give it to much. Colour of mixture you can control with tar or asphalt... As regards to soap... most probably provide alkalize properties. As you know bees wax i quite high with acids. I've never used carnauba wax but I know that is used as a hardener for bees wax and here that kind of feature is unnecessary. You don't want to achive crust.You mention about boiling of oils... it'll help I belive to penetrate more deeply wood.That kind of wax mixture is very natural let say... it was use for many many years in furniture workshops. Can be polished as well... provide very nice shinny layer. I belive you 'll find a lot of information about it in internet as well.As I said making and covering is quite problematic... also quite stinky as they told me (I like that smell anyway and it not bother me at all ) so many people just give up... and on the end of the day they 'll use tung, linseed oil warm or cold or other inventions But try... it'll be always some other experience. Good luck Matt Edited December 22, 2013 by mati Quote
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