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Thanks Matt! I will take your advice and give the Brass Black from BC a try. I wasn't aware that the liver of sulphur could create stains. Thanks for the other tips as well.

 

Mike

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

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I concur with Mati on the Brass Black from BC.  I use it quite a lot in my engraving, and it does a fine job of getting a really nice and tough black finish on brass.  It contains Selenious Acid and Fluoboric Acid, so rinsing within a minute or two of application is necessary or pitting can occur.  I will be using it on the brass that needs blackened in my current ship build... Before that brass is attached to the ship, of course.

 

Matt

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You're welcome Mike ;)

Liver of sulphur it won't create some ugly stain... it'll just create some yellowish pigmentation. Easy to remove with water ;)
I have also pure Selenious Acid H2SeO3... but it is more demanding when solution is too strong... and when is older it's loosing feature.

Cheers'
Matt

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Hi Matt,

 

your Dutch pinnace is a beautiful model and a pleasure to see this being built on your shipyard. I love and admire your accurate and clean work, also beautiful photographing....

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Mati,

I don't have any words to express your delicate finish. Outstanding!

 

Please, visit our Facebook page!

 

Respectfully

 

Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics 
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Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan

Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS

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Beautiful work, Matt. Complete models unto themselves.  

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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My oh my...Matt.  Fantastic attention to clean detail.  Superb build...indeed.

 

Thanks for the treat.

 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

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Impressive work Matt.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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I quite enjoy seeing this build coming together, she looks supremely impressive!

Since diving back into this myself, I've become quite drawn towards the 17C Dutch designs.  There's a few books I have my eye on, Ab Hoving's among them.  Someday down the road I imagine a scratch build, perhaps also informed by any literature I can cobble together about common pirate "hacks."

Your quality craftsmanship and wealth of improvisational solutions are an inspiration for me as I cut my teeth on this hobby.  I also appreciate the natural color palette, pleasant and interesting without being "busy."

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Hi All... after a long time 😂

Finally I've managed to pull myself together and sit behind the desk to push some work ahead 🙃
For those who were waiting for or wondering if topic will be continued... I have some small updates 😉

Basically I'm trying to complete all deck fittings and some other little hull "accessories". 
 

Also I've completed channels with deadeyes and chains.

Chains... nothing fancy... just copper wire (0.6mm) and silver solder.

 

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External ladder :)

 

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Fore and main mast tops finally together 😂

 

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And some beauty shot of whole model :)

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Cheers!
See you soon!

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I know what you mean. It can be hard to find time and/or inspiration to keep at it.

 

I'm extremely glad you did though! This is my favourite build log on here. I absolutely adore your work. The colours, the attention to details, the crispness. Brilliant!

 

Sam

"If you scratch my back, I'll scratch build yours."

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Hi All,

 

Chris and Sam many thanks!!! You are very kind :cheers:


Ondras thank you. Your model looks great too. I'm following your build 😉

 

 

I have some small update :)

Masts are almost completed... just few little details missing... which probably nobody will never notice... but I have to do them otherwise my soul will wander forever in the limbo 😂

 

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Caps were made using mill and for final touch just sand paper and files.

 

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Also I've made imitation of iron fittings secured points for breeching and gun tackle.
Scuppers are also visible above wales.

 

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At that point I'm working on ropes.

It's taking a lot of time... I'm on day 3 😆

...luckily I'm almost done with ropes... just few meters of 0,15mm, 0,2mm and 0,3mm missing.

 

For my model I've decided to use as a reference best source I could imagine. 
Ab Hoving and his publications about pinnaces. 
Amazing mine of knowledge 🤯 

 

So I've xero copy few pages from the book and recalculated whole rigging according to scale of my model... and I believe it's more or less accurate. Hopefully 😆

 

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Having above numbers there was nothing else to do than start my ropewalk, which was made by one of my friend Roman also modeler form Poland.

Super solid. Great tool :)

 

For my ropes I'm using polyester threads no. 120 and 160. Also for smallest diameters no. 360.

For "smallest" rope I'm using 3x1 threads no. 360, which gave me 0,15mm rope and for the "biggest" rope (except anchor cables), which is Main Mast Stay 3x16 thread no. 120, gave me 1,65mm rope.

 

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And just small "sample" ;)

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Cheers,

Matt

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Hi All,

 

Ropes situation is progressing.

I think at that point I have maybe 90% ropes done. 

For sure I will run out of some running rigging ropes... but missing ones I will do as required.

 

Next step is to add some tar and impregnation 😉

 

Below some photos.

 

Anchors cables

 

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Main and fore mast stays

 

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...and few with smaller "caliber" 😆

 

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...and my chocolate box 🙃😂

 

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Cheers,

Matt

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Hi Matt,

 

Which shop from are you buying the polyester threads? Next time I'm in Poland I'll by some for myself. Your ropes look so fantastic, I'm inspired to build a proper rope walk. (I have only some laughable hand-twisted rope-walk, because I don't wanted to spend any money on making one...)

 

Also the whole build looks very professional. Thanks for sharing!

 

Rgds,

Radek

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VERY nice rope.  Well done!

Chuck Seiler
San Diego Ship Modelers Guild
Nautical Research Guild

 
Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop
Completed:  Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans)

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Hi,

 

Thank you Chuck ;)

 

Radek, 

I'm buying threads from Ariadna. It's Polish thread factory with long history from Łódź.

I must say it's really cheap...

Talia 120 - 5000m cost around $3,50.

 

https://sklep.ariadna.com.pl/talia/197-nici-talia-120-5000-m.html

 

Talia 180 - 5000m it's even cheaper... around $2,80

 

https://sklep.ariadna.com.pl/85-talia-180

 

The finest thread is Tytan 360 - 5000m also for around $3.50

 

https://sklep.ariadna.com.pl/114-tytan-360

 

Hmm... such a shame, but their website doesn't have english version.

Anyway... if you need help with ordering or translating just give me a shout. I will help you.

 

In term of ropewalk... yes... it's great tool. If you want proper rigging on your model it's must have.

However, I know some modelers that can manage without fancy ropewalk and still with great result.

Ropewalk, which I have it's just very convenient, efficient and easy to use tool if you know how. 

 

Cheers,

Matt

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With Chuck/Syren no longer selling rope, many of us will have to start making our own...or finding a new supplier.

Chuck Seiler
San Diego Ship Modelers Guild
Nautical Research Guild

 
Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop
Completed:  Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans)

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