Nirvana Posted February 23, 2017 #91 Posted February 23, 2017 Steve, At JoAnns I had a great service experience with one of the ladies working there. I told her what I was up to, and showed a picture. That really made my day as she called on co-worker around her. Suddenly I had three ladies explaining differences and quality of threads. They all agreed that a combination called poly/cotton would be the best for me. Pure cotton is breaks easily under tension and has "hair", while the poly/cotton doesn't. Looking forward to see your rigging. Karleop and Jack12477 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Tigersteve Posted February 24, 2017 Author #92 Posted February 24, 2017 Thank you for the info. I will return the thread I bought and pick up some poly/cotton. I just about completed adding chainplates and deadeyes. I completed the iron rings for the display but didn't like the way they looked. Ended up filling the holes. I have to refinish it. I will post a photo of the stand and boat when that's compete. I have to adjust one deadeye. Steve Nirvana 1 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Tigersteve Posted February 25, 2017 Author #93 Posted February 25, 2017 Bowsprit step, deadeyes, chainplates installed. Needless to say it was difficult. You'll notice filled holes on the display base. No iron rings will be installed. Annoying lesson learned. Now to make a decision on the rigging: fully rigged (boat unlashed) or partially rigged with mast on the gallows bits along with oars and such stowed in the boat and on the bits (boat lashed to four eyehooks that would be installed on the base. Many rope coils will be needed. Any thoughts? Steve Mike_In_RI, MikeB4, Jack12477 and 8 others 11 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Nirvana Posted February 25, 2017 #94 Posted February 25, 2017 Thinking...... Jack12477, Tigersteve and Chuck 3 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Cathead Posted February 25, 2017 #95 Posted February 25, 2017 It'd be most realistic, and unique, to present it unrigged and lashed down as it really would be on the deck, especially given the way you've built the stand. I like that idea as a creative approach to a common model. But of course presenting it fully or partially rigged has a lot of visual appeal, and few people will care that you have it displayed on a "deck" while still rigged. Jack12477, Tigersteve and Nirvana 3 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
Jack12477 Posted February 25, 2017 #96 Posted February 25, 2017 Just catching up with your build. Beautiful stand, Steve. Very nice presentation. Tigersteve and Nirvana 2 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
Chuck Posted February 25, 2017 #97 Posted February 25, 2017 Very nice WORK. Fantastic progress. Nirvana and Tigersteve 2 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Tigersteve Posted February 27, 2017 Author #98 Posted February 27, 2017 I appreciate all the feedback and likes. I remade one chainplate/deadeye as I did not like how it was sitting higher than the other deadeye. Found a better way to make it by wrapping the wire around the deadeye and making the seam near the opening for the nail. Decision made about the rigging. I will present it partially rigged and lashed down (mast and oars on the gallows bits). Thank you, Cathead, for the encouragement! I think I was leaning towards this from the start. I unraveled the ME line. It seems useless for the tasks ahead. I picked up some poly/cotton thread. I'm going to get a spool of brown as well. Take a look at the line that came with the kit compared to the spools I purchased for about $1.50 each. Steve Jack12477, Cathead, Nirvana and 2 others 5 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Tigersteve Posted February 28, 2017 Author #99 Posted February 28, 2017 Paint touch up and refinishing some parts before stropping blocks, seizing line, and creating rope coils. In the meantime, I have been planning the layout of all parts inside and out of the boat. I took my first reference photo. All parts are not included yet. Steve Karleop, Nirvana, hexnut and 10 others 13 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Nirvana Posted February 28, 2017 #100 Posted February 28, 2017 Steve, that looks so nice having the mast on the side. It's a very clean setup. Jack12477 and Tigersteve 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Jack12477 Posted February 28, 2017 #101 Posted February 28, 2017 I agree with Per, very nice setup. BTW, I gave up on ME line a long time ago and switched to Chuck's line (Syren), much much better. Ryland Craze, Nirvana and Tigersteve 3 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
Tigersteve Posted February 28, 2017 Author #102 Posted February 28, 2017 Thank you, gentlemen! I have all the plans for the rigging and layout running through my head. Needed to get a reference photo out here. I'm unsure if the rudder will be installed or stowed. I don't want to obscure the details inside the boat. The windlass handles will most likely be installed as well. The oars will need to be kept on the gallows bits. Yes, the ME line looks like a lost cause. I will use Syren rope for the Mayflower. Steve Karleop and Nirvana 2 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Nirvana Posted March 1, 2017 #103 Posted March 1, 2017 Steve, I used lines from Chuck, really good investment! When it came to the seizing I used the poly/cotton thread from the fabric store. Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Mike_In_RI Posted March 4, 2017 #104 Posted March 4, 2017 Hi Steve .... continues to look great! Quote I'm unsure if the rudder will be installed or stowed. +1 for the rudder. Mike Nirvana and Tigersteve 2 Quote Current: Hannah - Plans by Randle Biddle published by Nautical Research Journal Finished: New Bedford Whaleboat - MS ; 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit - NRG
HIPEXEC Posted March 5, 2017 #105 Posted March 5, 2017 Nice detail! Nirvana and Tigersteve 2 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
Tigersteve Posted March 7, 2017 Author #106 Posted March 7, 2017 Just a small update. I stropped these four blocks with hooks. Two 3/32" blocks for the staysail and jibsail halyard and two 1/8" blocks that will hook to the mast. The two hooks below will be stropped to 1/8" blocks with rope to hook to the backstay chainplates. Roughly four hours of work. Good practice making hooks. Oh, did I mention they are tiny? Steve MikeB4, Cathead, Nirvana and 3 others 6 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Worldway Posted March 7, 2017 #107 Posted March 7, 2017 Nice tiny detail work. Amazing. BTW in Newfoundland during the heyday their slogan was "in Cod we trust". Cathead, Jack12477 and Tigersteve 3 Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Nirvana Posted March 7, 2017 #108 Posted March 7, 2017 Steve, They sure are small...... or as would call them very small! Jack12477 and Tigersteve 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Karleop Posted March 9, 2017 #109 Posted March 9, 2017 Hola Steve: Very nice hooks. Are they made with brass wire and blackened or did you use another material? Saludos, Karl Nirvana 1 Quote Finished Models (Gallery): Pandora (Constructo), HMS Endeavour (AL), San FranciscoII (AL), Fishing boat (scratch), Vasa (Billing Boats) Construction logs: Vasa (Billing Boats) Pride of Baltimore II (M. Shipways)
samueljr Posted March 10, 2017 #110 Posted March 10, 2017 Steve Just caught up on your LONGBOAT build. One of the best out here and the coolest presentation. NICE! Sam Tigersteve and Nirvana 2 Quote ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT
Tigersteve Posted March 10, 2017 Author #111 Posted March 10, 2017 Thanks so much, guys! Sam- I am excited I can present the longboat in a different way. I really like your unique presentation of it as well. Karl- the hooks are made from 28 gauge wire that came with the kit. Scratched them up a bit so I need to do some touchup before install. I just realized today that I need to make two more hooks so the lashing of the boat can take place. Steve Nirvana and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Tigersteve Posted March 11, 2017 Author #112 Posted March 11, 2017 Significant progress on the blocks. I used the method described in the article below, but I used white glue and a simple overhand knot for the seizing. There's a bit of excess rope because I didn't want to cut too close to the knot (done this already!). A thinner line for the seizing would make the excess rope invisible. The rope coils should hide some of this. Steve http://www.modelboatyard.com/stropping.html Ryland Craze, MikeB4, Erik W and 7 others 10 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Tigersteve Posted March 14, 2017 Author #113 Posted March 14, 2017 The backstay pendents make up the last of the blocks. I used brown rope for these, using the rigging plan to measure the length. These will be presented onboard the longboat in the rope coil you see in the photo. Roughly three hours of work. Steve MikeB4, Nikiforos, GuntherMT and 5 others 8 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Blue Ensign Posted March 14, 2017 #114 Posted March 14, 2017 You've done a fine job Steve, and I love the display mode you've devised, great stuff B.E. Nirvana, Ryland Craze and Tigersteve 3 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation.
Tigersteve Posted March 14, 2017 Author #115 Posted March 14, 2017 Forestay deadeye is complete. Again, the length taken from the rigging plan. Two overhand knots were used for the seizing. I used mini clothspins for spacers. This will also be presented onboard in the rope coil shown in the photo. (It's much cleaner in person!) The remaining four deadeyes will be seized to the mast. Steve Karleop, GuntherMT, Nirvana and 5 others 8 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Tigersteve Posted March 17, 2017 Author #116 Posted March 17, 2017 Thanks everyone for the nice comments and likes. Shroud pairs are complete. Used a touch of CA on the rope and tightened the two overhand knots for each deadeye over the CA. This allowed me to work quickly and cut excess rope a little closer to the knot. I coated the assembly with diluted white glue. Again, the length of rope was taken from the rigging plan. They will be seized to the mast next. These photos show crazy detail, but it looks clean to the naked eye. Steve MikeB4, GuntherMT, coxswain and 3 others 6 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Nirvana Posted March 17, 2017 #117 Posted March 17, 2017 Beautiful job Steve! I used white glue instead of CA, I did it just as a personal preference. Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Tigersteve Posted March 17, 2017 Author #118 Posted March 17, 2017 Thank you, Per. I try not to use CA at all. Hate the stuff and it dries shiny, which is why I used it under the knot. I'm trying new things and learning a lot! Steve Ryland Craze and Nirvana 2 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Tigersteve Posted March 18, 2017 Author #119 Posted March 18, 2017 It's been a while since I've redone something. So here it is- revised backstay pendents. Smaller seizings and a cleaner rope coil. Steve Mike_In_RI, coxswain, Nikiforos and 6 others 9 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
donrobinson Posted March 18, 2017 #120 Posted March 18, 2017 Looks good Steve, are those blocks from the kit? Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus
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