lami Posted April 20, 2013 #1 Posted April 20, 2013 Hi, With this I would like to continue my Banterer build log. Best regards Lami qwerty2008 and dafi 2 Quote
lami Posted April 20, 2013 Author #2 Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Hi, here are the latest picture of the Banterer. I'm building together with my father. The first three picture show the first "sea trials" last summer: The following pictures show the status of teh mechancis in January. The Set up of the main and mizzen mast will change as the combined mechanics proved not being reliable: Best regards Lami Edited April 20, 2013 by lami dafi, ianmajor, druxey and 1 other 4 Quote
RiverRat Posted April 20, 2013 #3 Posted April 20, 2013 Impresive! What operations will you actually have using R/C? I can't imagine controlling a large number of sails. Brian Quote "Give you joy!" Current Build: RATTLESNAKE 1:64 POB (Mamoli) Kits on hand: "Lexington", Mamoli: "Robert E. Lee", Scientific Scratch to do: "Fannie Dugan", 1870s Sidewheeler Steamboat
lami Posted April 20, 2013 Author #4 Posted April 20, 2013 Hi Brian, The functions will be: - control Jib and Fore Topmast Staysail - Control all yards one the Foremost - Control all yards on the Main and Mizzenmast - Control the driver - Steering - Lower and raise the Topgallad yards Lami Quote
michael mott Posted April 20, 2013 #5 Posted April 20, 2013 Lami the control system looks amazing any further information on how it works would be most interesting. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
mtaylor Posted April 20, 2013 #6 Posted April 20, 2013 Lami, It's great to see this build come back. I'm looking forward to following it again. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
ianmajor Posted April 20, 2013 #7 Posted April 20, 2013 Lami, Great work. If I understand the pictures correctly the running rigging is routed through brass tubes to the drive pulleys. Do you have to use some form of lubricant in the tubes? Ian M. Quote Ian M. Current build: HMS Unicorn (1748) - Corel Kit Advice from my Grandfather to me. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who stand back and watch. The trick is not to repeat the error.
capnharv2 Posted April 20, 2013 #8 Posted April 20, 2013 Lami, I love the way the spindles and tubes are routed under the deck. It looks so functional, yet elegant. Thanks, Harvey Quote
Richard Bradfield Posted April 20, 2013 #9 Posted April 20, 2013 Lami, Wow! What an exciting build! I am really looking forward to seeing the completed project and videos of its operation. Quote In progress: Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay Skipjack 1/32 Scale Model Shipways
Jim Lad Posted April 20, 2013 #10 Posted April 20, 2013 It's great to see your Banterer log back, Lami! John Quote
Bedford Posted April 21, 2013 #11 Posted April 21, 2013 Yes Lami, info please! I saw this on the home page and had to find the build log. There is so much I would like to know about this build. Steve Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe!
Kevin Posted April 21, 2013 #12 Posted April 21, 2013 great to see this log back Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
lami Posted May 6, 2013 Author #13 Posted May 6, 2013 (edited) Hi, many thanks for your kind comments. As correctly assumed we are using brass tubes to get the running ringging below decks. No lubrication is needed as the ropes are made from synthetic material and are gliding very good within the tubes. The following pictures show the lay of the brass tubes from the belaying points to below-decks within the double walls of the upper deck. Best regards Lami Edited May 6, 2013 by lami Quote
lami Posted May 6, 2013 Author #14 Posted May 6, 2013 The following pictures show the captains cabin and the laterns we build to illuminate the cabin and the upper deck: The Lamps are made of the piece of clear plastics and brass eyebolt and a yellow LED: Quote
st george Posted May 6, 2013 #15 Posted May 6, 2013 Lami, What a great looking model. What scale is it? David Quote David Current Build : HMAV Bounty - Amati Next Build : 18th Century Longboat
lami Posted May 6, 2013 Author #16 Posted May 6, 2013 (edited) Hi David, We used 1/30 as scale. Lami Edited May 6, 2013 by lami Quote
michael mott Posted May 6, 2013 #17 Posted May 6, 2013 I cannot see any of the last two sets of pictures just the JPEG number in a box. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
lami Posted May 7, 2013 Author #18 Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the info, the pictures I uploaded yesterday and three of the first set uploaded are now missing in my gallery. Not sure what happened but I will upload them again this evening. Lars Edited May 7, 2013 by lami Quote
Walter Biles Posted May 7, 2013 #19 Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Lami, I cannot see the last 11 pix, either, Just a picture name/number. Walter Biles Edited May 7, 2013 by Walter Biles Quote Current: America Schooner https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/10887-america-schooner-pof-by-walter-biles-radio-pof-scale-148-from-blue-jacket-plan/ Prior: MERIDEA https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/140-meridea-by-walter-biles-radio-34-scratch-cad-of-boat-at-usn-severn-river-repair-station-ca-1969/ SAMSON First build: Scratch POF Spanish Galleon
Chuck Posted May 7, 2013 #20 Posted May 7, 2013 Dont use the gallery to upload your images...that is for completed models only. Use the upload tool on each post. Edit your posts and use teh full editor to add the pictures again. DO NOT USE the gallery and then link them into your log. That is a NO-NO. Chuck mtaylor 1 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
lami Posted April 21, 2014 Author #21 Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Hi, with the Banterer nearly finished I wanted to show some actual pictures. The most work over the last 6 month was the sail making each sail took me an average of 40 hours to make. Build time was now nearly 7 years and we hope to let her sail on May 2nd for the first time. Edited April 21, 2014 by lami Bedford, mtaylor, Landlubber Mike and 5 others 8 Quote
JerryTodd Posted April 22, 2014 #22 Posted April 22, 2014 How are you dealing with ballast? Quote Jerry Todd Click to go to that build log Constellation ~ RC sloop of war c.1856 in 1:36 scale Macedonian ~ RC British frigate c.1812 in 1:36 scale Pride of Baltimore ~ RC Baltimore Clipper c.1981 in 1:20 scale Gazela Primeiro ~ RC Barkentine c.1979 in 1:36 scale Naval Guns 1850s~1870s ~ 3D Modeling & Printing My Web Site My Thingiverse stuff
Sailor1234567890 Posted April 22, 2014 #23 Posted April 22, 2014 Looking sweet. Pics and video of her under sail in May some time? Quote
Bedford Posted April 22, 2014 #24 Posted April 22, 2014 Such a huge effort, she looks brilliant, can't wait to see her sail Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe!
lami Posted April 22, 2014 Author #25 Posted April 22, 2014 the Banterer has a displacement of about 24 kilos. The upper part of the hull weights 10 kilos with about kilos on the water line and 6 kilos high above (masts, Sails, cannons, ...) and the lover hull weights 6 kilos. So we have 8 kilos of ballast. 5 kilos in the form of lead balls are sunk in Epoxy in teh lower hold. above that we have 3 kilos in the form of lead bars to trim the ship. Tests indicate that no external ballast will be needed ( I hope that proves right :-) ) We are also able to lover the Topgallant Yards to reduce the sail area. I will post some pictures as soon as she had her first voyage. Quote
Mike Y Posted April 22, 2014 #26 Posted April 22, 2014 Wow! What kind of a glue do you use? And how do you prevent the hull from warping when wet? Planks will expand, and then leave the gaps when dried. Or there is a trick to prevent that? Looking forward to see the video of first voyage, and more detailed photos! Incredibly interesting project! Quote Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
lami Posted April 22, 2014 Author #27 Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) We are using normal water proof white glue for the wood, for the Copper plates we used cyanid quick glue. Over all of this is a layer of semi gloss boat paint. This combinatiion protects the hull very well. Edited April 23, 2014 by lami Quote
lami Posted May 4, 2014 Author #28 Posted May 4, 2014 Here are some pictures of the maiden voyage of our Banterer as you can see she is riding still very high on the water indicating that about 4 kilos of ballast are still missing to stabilize her. Next steps will be to give her more ballast before her next trial. Landlubber Mike, JerryTodd, Aussie048 and 4 others 7 Quote
JerryTodd Posted May 5, 2014 #29 Posted May 5, 2014 Bravo! Bravo! Quote Jerry Todd Click to go to that build log Constellation ~ RC sloop of war c.1856 in 1:36 scale Macedonian ~ RC British frigate c.1812 in 1:36 scale Pride of Baltimore ~ RC Baltimore Clipper c.1981 in 1:20 scale Gazela Primeiro ~ RC Barkentine c.1979 in 1:36 scale Naval Guns 1850s~1870s ~ 3D Modeling & Printing My Web Site My Thingiverse stuff
mtaylor Posted May 5, 2014 #30 Posted May 5, 2014 Good for you, Lami. She looks good in the water. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
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