Glen McGuire Posted December 27, 2023 Share #871 Posted December 27, 2023 Fantastic work, Keith. Like everything else on this build, your gaff and lift rigging is very clean and crisp. Dave_E, FriedClams, AJohnson and 2 others 4 1 Quote Current build: TBD Gallery: Mamoli CSS Alabama; Amati Hannah-SIB; Charles W Morgan-SIB; Aurora-SIB; Independence-SIB; Zheng He Treasure Fleet-SIB; Adventure Galley-SIB; Oseberg/Kraken-SIB; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw-SIB, Wa'a Kualua-SIB, Ghost Ship Jenny-SIB Completed build logs: Alabama; Hannah; Morgan; Aurora; Independence; Zheng He Treasure Fleet; Captain Kidd's Adventure Galley; Oseberg/Kraken; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw, Wa'a Kualua, Ghost Ship Jenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted December 28, 2023 Share #872 Posted December 28, 2023 Nice to see you back with her Keith and she is looking awesome. Keith Keith Black, Dave_E, mtaylor and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted December 30, 2023 Share #873 Posted December 30, 2023 Lovely rigging work Keith. Dave_E, Glen McGuire, FriedClams and 2 others 4 1 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick310 Posted December 31, 2023 Share #874 Posted December 31, 2023 Really beautiful work!! Rick Dave_E, FriedClams and Keith Black 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted January 1 Author Share #875 Posted January 1 Rob, Glen, Keith (c), Keith (A), and Rick thank you for your kind comments and thank you to all for the likes. I was hoping to post photos this evening but unfortunately that didn't happen, hopefully in a couple of days. Again, a Happy New Year to all and again, thank you for following along. mbp521, Dave_E, Cathead and 5 others 8 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbp521 Posted January 1 Share #876 Posted January 1 Happy New Year Keith! -Brian mtaylor, Knocklouder, Glen McGuire and 5 others 7 1 Quote Current Builds: Completed Builds: Mississippi River Towboat Caroline N. HMB Endeavor: Artesania Latina USS Constitution - Cross Section: Mamoli Non-Ship Builds: HMS Victory - Cross Section: Corel New Shipyard King of the Mississippi - Steamboat: Artesania Latina Battle Station Section: Panart (Gallery) In Dry-dock Chaperon - 1884 Steamer: Model Shipways USS Constellation: Aretesania Latina USS Cairo - 1862 Ironclad: Scratch Build Flying Fish: Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted January 1 Share #877 Posted January 1 6 hours ago, Keith Black said: I was hoping to post photos this evening but unfortunately that didn't happen, The story of my life.😐 BANYAN, Keith Black, FriedClams and 3 others 4 2 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted January 1 Share #878 Posted January 1 Happy New Year to you too Keith Keith Dave_E, KeithAug, Keith Black and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted January 6 Author Share #879 Posted January 6 Brian, Keith A, and Keith C, thank you for the comments and thank you to all for the likes. I enhanced this photo where the lines and stays could be more easily seen and after adding the fore's top, topgallant braces, standing stays from main to fore, and standing stays from fore to bowsprit, the skyline is pretty stinkin' close which is amazing to me all things considered. Bowsprit details with added bullseyes. With the exception of the mizzen the main and fore's stays and running lines are not permanently tied off as adjustment will be required once the shrouds have been added. i have a punch list for items that need addressed on the main and mizzen. Correcting the main and mizzen's main and top standing stays and adding bullseyes to the mizzen main stay abreast the aft stack. Additionally.... i thought the fore's main yard brace attached to the outside of the hull as does the cross jack and the main's main yard but not so. in the enhanced photo it can be clearly seen the fore main braces attache to blocks beneath the main's top next to the main's top yard brace blocks. I'll have to add the two single blocks which will require a bit of standing on my head and i'll search for any necessary paint touchups. But all this inside work needs to be done before adding the shrouds as when done the inside workspace will be, hard to come by. Once the punch list is completed I'll post a 'proof of life' photo and then on to the dreaded shrouds. Snug Harbor Johnny, GrandpaPhil, TBlack and 12 others 15 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbp521 Posted January 6 Share #880 Posted January 6 Beautiful Keith! I have often found myself in the quandary of getting the inside work done before the shrouds or visa-versa. Doing the internal work without the shrouds is so much easier to access, but I’ve always thought that once the inside work was done and the shrouds added later that the tension of installing the shrouds would cause a sag on the inner lines. So, I’ve always worked from the outside in, praying to the ship gods that i didn’t snag a line and dump the whole thing in the floor. Oh the trials of model shipbuilding. 😁 -Brian Cathead, wefalck, FriedClams and 4 others 6 1 Quote Current Builds: Completed Builds: Mississippi River Towboat Caroline N. HMB Endeavor: Artesania Latina USS Constitution - Cross Section: Mamoli Non-Ship Builds: HMS Victory - Cross Section: Corel New Shipyard King of the Mississippi - Steamboat: Artesania Latina Battle Station Section: Panart (Gallery) In Dry-dock Chaperon - 1884 Steamer: Model Shipways USS Constellation: Aretesania Latina USS Cairo - 1862 Ironclad: Scratch Build Flying Fish: Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted January 6 Share #881 Posted January 6 Nice work and interesting strategy. It's a bit counterintuitive, but may be a good idea. On the other hand, fairleads and such things for pieces of running rigging would need to be tied to the shrounds, which can be only done once the shrouds are set. Looking forward to see how you are getting on ! Keith Black, Dave_E, FriedClams and 1 other 3 1 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted January 6 Author Share #882 Posted January 6 3 hours ago, mbp521 said: Beautiful Keith! I have often found myself in the quandary of getting the inside work done before the shrouds or visa-versa. Doing the internal work without the shrouds is so much easier to access, but I’ve always thought that once the inside work was done and the shrouds added later that the tension of installing the shrouds would cause a sag on the inner lines Thank you, Brian. Knowing the shrouds will pull all the tension aft is the reason none of the stays or running lines are tied off. They're there to eliminate having to add them later but I'll have the ability to pull them taunt once the shrouds are in place. 2 hours ago, wefalck said: Nice work and interesting strategy. It's a bit counterintuitive, but may be a good idea. On the other hand, fairleads and such things for pieces of running rigging would need to be tied to the shrounds, which can be only done once the shrouds are set. Thank you, Eberhard. I'm not doing sails and because my rigging knowledge/experience is limited many rigging details will not be included. A unknowledgeable viewer will be none the wiser and the knowledgeable viewer will just have to look on with sympathetic forgiveness. Speaking of forgiveness......profile shots are pretty boring so I've included an angled view. Thank you to all for the support and thank you to all for the likes. Knocklouder, Glen McGuire, mtaylor and 15 others 13 5 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted January 6 Share #883 Posted January 6 She's looking good Keith; and looking forward to seeing the corrections/improvements. cheers Pat mtaylor, FriedClams, mbp521 and 3 others 5 1 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick310 Posted January 7 Share #884 Posted January 7 Truly magnificent!! I had a heck of a time tying off the lanyards on the bowsprit rigging at 1/8 inch scale. I can’t imagine how you accomplished that at an even smaller scale! Very impressive, all of it!! Rick Glen McGuire, Dave_E, Keith Black and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingFish Posted January 7 Share #885 Posted January 7 On 12/26/2023 at 8:37 PM, Keith Black said: Sometimes the result is more suggestion than 100% accuracy Tremendous work Keith - I agree wholeheartedly with this, although it does look very 'on scale' and I particularly like the lack of 'fuzz' on the ropework - a sign of attention to detail. Really enjoying seeing it come together. AnchorClanker, Keith Black, Tony Hunt and 5 others 7 1 Quote Andy 'You're gonna need a bigger boat!' Completed Build: Orca from the film 'Jaws'. Current Build: Sailing Trawler Vigilance BM76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted January 7 Share #886 Posted January 7 She is looking exceeding smart Keith. Glen McGuire, mtaylor, Dave_E and 5 others 7 1 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearway Posted January 7 Share #887 Posted January 7 😁😁😁 Dave_E, mtaylor, Keith Black and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted January 8 Share #888 Posted January 8 On 1/6/2024 at 3:58 PM, Keith Black said: and the knowledgeable viewer will just have to look on with sympathetic forgiveness. I might have to steal this phrasing, well put! mbp521, mtaylor, Glen McGuire and 5 others 4 3 1 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen McGuire Posted January 8 Share #889 Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, Cathead said: I might have to steal this phrasing, well put! Same here. Keith definitely has a way with words! FriedClams, Keith Black, Dave_E and 2 others 4 1 Quote Current build: TBD Gallery: Mamoli CSS Alabama; Amati Hannah-SIB; Charles W Morgan-SIB; Aurora-SIB; Independence-SIB; Zheng He Treasure Fleet-SIB; Adventure Galley-SIB; Oseberg/Kraken-SIB; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw-SIB, Wa'a Kualua-SIB, Ghost Ship Jenny-SIB Completed build logs: Alabama; Hannah; Morgan; Aurora; Independence; Zheng He Treasure Fleet; Captain Kidd's Adventure Galley; Oseberg/Kraken; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw, Wa'a Kualua, Ghost Ship Jenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted January 8 Share #890 Posted January 8 3 hours ago, Glen McGuire said: Keith definitely has a way with words! Isn't that the truth! Almost poetic. mtaylor, Dave_E, mbp521 and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_E Posted January 8 Share #891 Posted January 8 Top Shelf material! 😀 Glen McGuire, FriedClams, mtaylor and 2 others 4 1 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted January 8 Author Share #892 Posted January 8 Comments housekeeping...... On 1/6/2024 at 6:17 PM, BANYAN said: She's looking good Keith; and looking forward to seeing the corrections/improvements. Thank you, Pat. Most of the corrections are going to be so minor they'll likely go unnoticed. The one that will be noticed is adding bullseyes to the mizzen mainstay attaching abreast the rear stack. Currently the stay is merely tied at eye pins. When I originally installed that stay I was afraid I'd make a dog's lunch out of the stack's chain stays if I tied adding bullseyes there but I now think I can do so without damage to the chains. I'll certain post that correction. On 1/6/2024 at 8:13 PM, Rick310 said: Truly magnificent!! I had a heck of a time tying off the lanyards on the bowsprit rigging at 1/8 inch scale. I can’t imagine how you accomplished that at an even smaller scale! Very impressive, all of it!! Thank you, Rick. Because I cheat with the way I strop and attach blocks and deadeyes it makes that tiny finger work manageable. I'f I was doing it the normal way they'ed have to put me in a home. Those that work in even smaller scales (Eberhard for one) blow my mind. On 1/7/2024 at 4:36 AM, FlyingFish said: Tremendous work Keith - I agree wholeheartedly with this, although it does look very 'on scale' and I particularly like the lack of 'fuzz' on the ropework - a sign of attention to detail. Really enjoying seeing it come together. Thank you, Andy. I use Gutermann polyester thread. I have limited experience with cotton thread and I hated working with and the finished look. the biggest knock against polyester the than being nontraditional is because it stretches, i have not experienced that. I've had line at the stern of the mizzen tied off going on two years this Spring without any noticeable droop. I didn't pre stretch the thread, I just pulled it taunt and tied if off. i would never consider using cotton after my experience with the Gutxrmann polyester thread. On 1/7/2024 at 10:33 AM, KeithAug said: She is looking exceeding smart Keith. Thank you, Keith On 1/7/2024 at 2:56 PM, clearway said: 😁😁😁 Keith, you made me smile. 8 hours ago, Cathead said: I might have to steal this phrasing, well put! Consider it yours, Eric. 8 hours ago, Glen McGuire said: Same here. Keith definitely has a way with words! 5 hours ago, TBlack said: Isn't that the truth! Almost poetic. 4 hours ago, Dave_E said: Top Shelf material! Glen, Tom, and Dave, thank you guys, you're too kind. Thank you to all for the comments and thank you to all for the likes. Your support warms the cockles of me ole heart. Cathead, mbp521, GrandpaPhil and 6 others 9 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbp521 Posted January 9 Share #893 Posted January 9 Scrolling through these builds, enjoying the photos and commentary and learning new and old techniques of the progress is only part the entertainment that I get from this forum. The sideline conversation and banter is the added bonus that keeps me glued to the builds and coming back for more. -Brian Cathead, FriedClams, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current Builds: Completed Builds: Mississippi River Towboat Caroline N. HMB Endeavor: Artesania Latina USS Constitution - Cross Section: Mamoli Non-Ship Builds: HMS Victory - Cross Section: Corel New Shipyard King of the Mississippi - Steamboat: Artesania Latina Battle Station Section: Panart (Gallery) In Dry-dock Chaperon - 1884 Steamer: Model Shipways USS Constellation: Aretesania Latina USS Cairo - 1862 Ironclad: Scratch Build Flying Fish: Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted January 12 Author Share #894 Posted January 12 On 1/8/2024 at 9:41 PM, mbp521 said: The sideline conversation and banter is the added bonus Brian, absolutely! Redoing the mizzen main stay with bullseyes is the only change that I'll document as the other pre shroud work have much less visual interest. I wish I had done this before things go so closed in. Looking back, after the hell I went through getting the aft stack's chain stays in place i was afraid to work around those chains by adding bullseyes, just running the stay ends to eye pins seemed so much safer. But now that I've added bullseyes to all the other stays, not having a pair on the mizzen main stay seemed goofy. An hour into the change over i was wishing I'd left well enough alone. i started on the port side working around the gaff lines and trying to stab the twisted end, .028 inches, into the .034 inch drilled hole about had me throwing things! I crushed one twisted bullseye and had to make up another lashed pair. Before inserting eye pins, blocks, and bullseyes I apply CA gel on the twisted end and insert. Once inserted I'll add some additional CA liquid with an homemade needle applicator around the base. Last night I struggled keeping the gelled end from coming into contact with any and everything except its intended target. Eventually perseverance won out, thankfully the starboard side went like a breeze.........whew! Lashed bullseyes ready to place. Before, stay tied off to eye pin After, port side bullseyes added. Starboard side added. The lines are not tied off at this point as some additional work needs to be done to the stay lines below the top. Thank you to all for the likes and for following along. clearway, BANYAN, Glen McGuire and 11 others 12 2 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted January 12 Share #895 Posted January 12 Nicely done Keith, I’m just now catching up on this build. Interesting subject as well. JJ AJohnson, Dave_E, mtaylor and 4 others 6 1 Quote Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted January 12 Share #896 Posted January 12 (edited) After-thought-job well done! It's those details that really make the difference. It's not easy to have all the necessary foresight, but I make myself a mental plan for working 'inside-out' in order to minimise interference. It does not always work though 😬 Edited January 12 by wefalck mbp521, Cathead, Keith Black and 4 others 6 1 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted January 13 Share #897 Posted January 13 I've been away from the forum for a few weeks, so I was delighted to see that the Tennessee is once again moving forward. Very nice progress, Keith! Your work is so clean and precise, which comes as no surprise to anyone who follows your build. On 1/6/2024 at 4:58 PM, Keith Black said: A unknowledgeable viewer will be none the wiser and the knowledgeable viewer will just have to look on with sympathetic forgiveness. Amen, brother. Thanks for the tip on the Gutermann polyester. Keep at it but take your time - this is one of those builds no one really wants to see end. Gary AJohnson, TBlack, Keith Black and 5 others 7 1 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted January 13 Share #898 Posted January 13 Great work Keith. Dad would be proud. Tom Dave_E, Keith Black, Knocklouder and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick310 Posted January 13 Share #899 Posted January 13 Beautiful clean work!! Rick mtaylor, Keith Black, Dave_E and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted January 20 Author Share #900 Posted January 20 (edited) JJ, Eberhard, Gary, Tom, and Rick, thank you for the kind comments and thank you to all for the likes. Fore's main yard brace line temporarily run to the block under the main's top. I'm pleased the model's skyline matches the above photo as well as it does. The existing outside single block became the fore's main yard brace line block. I had to add a single block for the fore's top yard brace line and it was quite the challenge. I had to drill a .034 inch hole into a .080 top support frame between the outside single block and the inside double block looking up at an awkward angle. The pen vice was up against the lines and I worried through the whole process that disaster would strike any moment. But it didn't and except for the wood crumbs it all went very well. And that concludes the inside work. Isn't it rich? That after all of this time I've developed the itch Where are the shrouds? Send in the shrouds That's right, it's time for the shrouds and I'm looking forward to adding them so much more so than I was a couple of months ago. Hopefully this will go quickly, I'll add progress post throughout the process. Thank you again to everyone for following along, stay warm. Keith Edited January 21 by Keith Black FlyingFish, AnchorClanker, AJohnson and 17 others 17 2 1 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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