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Eberhard, I can remember what it looked like and I am pretty sure that it wasn't made by Rolls Royce. I don't remember the make but I did try t look up the training centre on the web to see if i could find out what happened to it. Unfortunately I drew a blank. I do intend trying again.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Posted

Thank you all for your comments and likes.

 

I am moving on by going back to the masts, booms and spars which were only partially completed earlier. They have all sorts of fitting and attachments which need to be made and installed before I get on to the sails.

 

I am starting with the main boom. You can see in the following photographs the blocks and strops.

 

Do health and safety at work regulations apply to yachts?

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The rudimentary plans downloaded from the internet adequately define the attachment points

DSC01339.thumb.JPG.f5b340a8c0031d029be3a582c65f6393.JPGThese were marked on to the boom (on top of a piece of masking tape.

DSC01337.thumb.JPG.db0b6760221c4187e91bad9aced212f1.JPGThe blocks attach to the strops via brackets. These were probably forged from plate on the original. They are a bit small at model scale and so I decided to fabricate them.

 

I started with 2 squares of brass sheet drilled with a central hole and 2 other smaller holes.

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The squares were turned circular. and a spacer was made.

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The 3 parts were assembles and soldered on an aluminium alignment mandrel.

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DSC01896.thumb.JPG.178549fa55f6f8d7310c61ef39c40a68.JPGI then made a filing button and used this to profile the outer shape.

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Two brackets were then cut from the profiled shape.

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The wire strops were then made from beading wire.

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I spent a lot of time making blocks in 3 sizes and with single double and triple sheaves.

DSC01930.thumb.JPG.c4a07b5f2d6e99a72f03c18bf30b7e66.JPGSingle blocks were attached to the strops via the brackets.

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Two further single blocks were attached.

DSC01910.thumb.JPG.034327f72d85ec58884ebc2ed32bdadf.JPGI am not sure what the purpose is of the long strops running fore and aft are, but these were added.

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Much more to do.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Posted

Just catching up Keith and you have been busy.  Beautiful work as always - every bit of it.  That photo of the cabin is really cool.  It has a nostalgic feel to it, especially with the out of focus foreground.  That’s a keeper.

 

Gary

Current Build   Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger  

 

Completed Scratch Builds

Rangeley Guide Boat   New England Stonington Dragger   1940 Auto Repair Shop   Mack FK Shadowbox    

 

Posted

The fore and aft lines may be foot ropes.

 

How were the wire strops covered to protect the wood work, bit hard to make out from the pics

Posted

Ditto above comments; just when you think it can't get better than....  well, you continue to provide such lovely detailed fittings.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted

Ah RR-apprentice at work - love this filing-button work, that shows the toolmaking approach.

 

I could think of two uses for these strops at the end of the boom: either they are some sort of footropes (well HSE rules apply, when you have a professional crew, but it may depend on the country of registration) or they are sort of bridles to grab and help the boom shift, when going through the wind.

wefalck

 

panta rhei - Everything is in flux

 

 

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Posted
14 hours ago, Bedford said:

How were the wire strops covered to protect the wood work,

Hello Steve

 

They have a very closely fitted leather covering.

 

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It is a bit too closely fitted for me to reproduce neatly.

 

3 hours ago, wefalck said:

they are sort of bridles to grab and help the boom shift

Eberhard / Steve. I think the foot rope idea seems sensible. Given the mass and height of the boom I think that flicking it across would be better managed via the sheets and winches.

 

Gary, Druxey, John, Pat, Eberhard and Steve - thank you all once more for your supportive comments

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Posted

Amazing work as always Kieth. I’m still baffled at how you can keep hold of such tiny parts. You must have sticky hands, or is there something you’re not telling us. Personally, if I were working on pieces that small, the floor gods would be rich from all the parts I would have sacrificed.😁

 

-Brian

Current Builds:                                                                                                 Completed Builds:

Mississippi River Towboat Caroline N.                                                    HMB Endeavor: Artesania Latina

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New Shipyard                                                                                             King of the Mississippi - Steamboat: Artesania Latina

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In Dry-dock                                                                                               Chaperon - 1884 Steamer: Model Shipways  

USS Constellation: Aretesania Latina                                                       USS Cairo - 1862 Ironclad: Scratch Build 

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Posted
2 hours ago, mbp521 said:

I’m still baffled at how you can keep hold of such tiny parts.

Brian - Eberhard is probably the expert. Watchmakers have a cloth on the bench that attaches to a chord around their neck. I just trust to luck and make a few spares. Thank you for your kind remarks.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Posted
8 hours ago, wefalck said:

I could think of two uses for these strops at the end of the boom:

Here is a better photo. Given the strops start level with the transome I think the foot rope idea makes the most sense.

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8 hours ago, wefalck said:

(well HSE rules apply, when you have a professional crew, but it may depend on the country of registration)

Unfortunately they were not great at safety. One young crew member fell to her death while working aloft in March 2017. 

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Roger Pellett said:

real cat’s cradle!

Hi Roger - yes - not quite sure why they couldn't find a more aesthetic solution.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Posted

Today I had a big productive workshop plan. Then this arrived and insisted on helping.

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She said that she needed to do her work so we did a bit of nailing practice (see hammer and wood block). Then we learned masking taping before progressing on to drawing boats. I have high hopes that she is destined to become a ship modeller. Needless to say I didn't get much done.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Posted

I disagree with not getting much done.  Her expression says it all.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

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CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted
3 hours ago, KeithAug said:

I have high hopes that she is destined to become a ship modeller. Needless to say I didn't get much done.

Funny, both of my granddaughters love to help out when they come over and I’m in the shipyard. I’ll give them a piece of wood and some sandpaper and let hem go to town. Tickles them pink and warms my heart.  
 

-Brian

Current Builds:                                                                                                 Completed Builds:

Mississippi River Towboat Caroline N.                                                    HMB Endeavor: Artesania Latina

                                                                                                                    USS Constitution - Cross Section: Mamoli

Non-Ship Builds:                                                                                              HMS Victory - Cross Section: Corel

New Shipyard                                                                                             King of the Mississippi - Steamboat: Artesania Latina

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USS Constellation: Aretesania Latina                                                       USS Cairo - 1862 Ironclad: Scratch Build 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, mbp521 said:

Tickles them pink and warms my heart.

Wonderful Brian, I hadn’t thought of sanding practice.

 

I obviously missed the “training productivity” aspect of her visit, thanks to all of you for pointing it out.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Posted (edited)

Is that Splodge? I remember you hanging a much younger photo of her below deck. What a precious child, you're a very lucky man, Mr Keith. 

Edited by Keith Black

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted

Keith, I had assumed a snug leather covering on the strops and of course that's impossible to recreate at this scale, have you considered just painting them in a suitable colour? A few heavy coats would pass for leather to a blind man on a galloping horse.

Posted (edited)

Keith, can you get heat shrink of this small a diameter (and right colour)?  Might make life a little easier for simulating the wire coverings. 

 

I love that photo of your helper (dockyard assistant) - looks like she is well on her way to lofting plans ;)   Hopefully I can encourage both my granddaughters to help :)  

 

cheers

 

Pat

Edited by BANYAN

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Posted

Watchmakers and jewellers indeed use aprons. Watchmakers generally use cloth, while those of jewellers are made from leather. The latter clip to the underside of their workbenches, so that they can recover precious metal filings. It also protects them when silver-soldering.

 

I have been wearing aprons in the workshop for decades. However, I found that small pieces mostly either bounce off, or just drop besides ...

wefalck

 

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Posted
19 hours ago, Keith Black said:

Is that Splodge?

Well remembered Keith, indeed it is, although she hasn't been called Splodge for a while now. At nursery school they all use her given name of Eve but in the family she answers to Bean. I think "Bean" will stick with her forever. 

 

Her mum brought her to the workshop to show her Germania. I pointed out the picture of Maisie (the Dalmatian) in the porthole and I removed the deck house to show her the picture of Bean. She then rushed back to the lounge and reappeared with Nanny to show her the pictures. It was after this that she decided to stay and do her work.

 

18 hours ago, Bedford said:

have you considered just painting them in a suitable colour?

Steve I will do a test piece. My guess is that acrylics will flake and enamels will form beads. The wire is covered with clear plastic (which looks and feels a bit like nylon) and i am dubious about the adhesion.

 

18 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Keith, can you get heat shrink of this small a diameter (and right colour)? 

Pat - Yes you can get small bore heat shrink. The wire is .020" diameter and the problem is that small bore heat shrink seems to have a reasonable wall thickness. It more than doubles the diameter of the strops and this makes them look unnaturally heavy.

 

Thank you Eberhard for the apron explanation.

 

Thank you all for the nice Bean comments - unfortunately she is not for sale.

 

 

 

 

 

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Posted

The clear plastic on the wire is a problem.  I'm not sure if there's a chemical way to remove and burning it off would be nasty.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

 Acetone should remove the wire's plastic coating. 

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

way to remove and burning it off would be nasty.

Mark - it burns off quite nicely. You set fire to one end and then it burns almost like a fuse. It does create a molten blob so the trick is to blow out the flame and then quickly draw the wire between the thumb and fore finger to remove the blob. Then you utter an expletive and remember next time to wear your gloves. The problem is the burning discolours the wire strands in a way that isn't easily rectified. Really you need the wire to retain its shiny stainless steel look.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

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