North American P-51 Mustang "Flying Dutchman" by Javlin - FINISHED - Revell - 1/32 - PLASTIC

[Javlin]

I bought this kit a few months back to maybe do in a GB but have kind of tired of the time constraints of GB's.So,I have this lag time on the Chikuma awaiting for the railings to come in(forgot to order) hey theirs this P-51 next to the desk and I love the colors.The kit seems good   but a little soft on some moldings  and some flash though not bad but this is a new kit/new molds?We have plenty of stencils to outfit the copit and he hardware to not require any PE for me atleast.A little History of the "Flying Dutchman"

 

11 Victory Ace

It took less than three months of World War II action for Robert J. "Bob" Goebel to become a Double Ace flying the North American P-51 Mustang. Goebel, the youngest of seven children, was born and raised in Racine, Wisconsin. At age 19, he entered the U.S. Army Air Corps as an Aviation Cadet, earning his wings and his commission in May 1943. After graduation, Goebel was assigned to the Panama Canal Zone flying the Bell P-39 Airacobra and the Curtiss P-40 Warhawk. In early 1944, he was reassigned to the 31st Fighter Group in the Mediterranean Theater flying the Supermarine Mark V Spitfire.

Soon after joining the Group in Italy as a member of the 308th Fighter Squadron, Goebel transitioned to the North American P-51 Mustang with the mission of fighter escort for 15th Air Force heavy bombers. While in the 308th, he flew 61 long-range missions from San Severo, Italy, supporting the bomber offensive in Southern Europe. During his combat tour, he destroyed 11 enemy fighters in the air over a 91-day period from 29 May 1944 to 28 August 1944. By the time he completed his first tour in September of 1944, he was 21 years old, had been promoted to captain, had led his squadron of 16 Mustangs into combat 7 times, and twice led an entire group of 48 aircraft into combat.

 

Some pics of this afternoons work.

[CDW]

Great subject Javlin. 

If it's not too much trouble, could you post a photo of the kit decal sheet?

[Javlin]

2 hours ago, CDW said:

Great subject Javlin. 

If it's not too much trouble, could you post a photo of the kit decal sheet?

Will do tomorrow night called it quits for today factory or aftermarket?I would suggest to anyone who might think about building this one when it comes to the Ip decal punch them and lay I was this close to doing that!! If it looks like crap tomorrow might have to pull out and ole Waldrons IP kit I also found my Rabu WWII seatbelts.I orginally got those belts for the HK 1/32 glassnose B-25. kevin

Edited October 13, 2019 by Javlin

[popeye the sailor]

great start Kevin........I've seen that kit around      love the colors too!

[Javlin]

Here's the pic of the decals Greg and the sides are just about done.

[Javlin]

learned a new feature on GIMP not glues yet just fitted and I like Revells carriage kind of reminds me WingNuts build.

[Javlin]

Just how much does Kevin like P-51's these are all recon crates love these all 1/48 and Tamy with AM decals and my 1/32 Hase P-47 "Lil Ceasar"

Edited October 14, 2019 by Javlin

[popeye the sailor]

great looking collection  

[Javlin]

It took a little while for me to build up these belts to much work and it took about 2 1/2-3 hrs for me to build these four belts but the pit is about to be encase in the fuselage.I want to add that Rabu  of  https://www.radubstore.com/   was very instrumental in working with Revell in the design of the kit and my hat is off to him this kit just falls together he also designed the belts I used and other AM products.I have already built the duct-work behind the pit and installed pretty much SOP.The wing I will show more of it's totally different from ant other P-51 I've built.

Edited October 21, 2019 by Javlin

[Javlin]

i have not been idle just slowed down between work and household stuff.I am just about ready to start the gloss black for the base to the Alclad Silver I think I may try some of the panels in a gray flat and spray the same silver and see what kind of contrast I get.The wings were tight ended up maybe removing about .010"off of the bottom of the copit assembly to get a better fit other than that it was a good fit with a couple of dabs of SG as filler nothing major.the instructions show the different wing assembly unlike other.

[Javlin]

The base gloss black worked the best it has ever done for me over the last few years sprayed wonderful .The silver I am so-so started with semi-matte silver too flat? went to airframe silver though not polished to bright so back to semi-matte look's OK?I think once I get the panels done and get the red yellow and OD glare panel all well be good.I did get the exhaust panel with MM Magnesium.I opted out of the grey panels and all one color silver saw another build just quite enough delineation for my likes.

[popeye the sailor]

do you go over the silver with a clear coat?  gotta hate the fingerprint issue with metallic paint.  the sheen issue is a hard one......some photos of aircraft look shiny,  and some look dull.   probably the best solution would be to meet it in the middle   flat silver with a semi gloss clear coat.........or you could go the other way around.   ....some ghosting at the cowl.......are you going to do an olive drab top?

[Javlin]

23 hours ago, popeye the sailor said:

do you go over the silver with a clear coat?  gotta hate the fingerprint issue with metallic paint.  the sheen issue is a hard one......some photos of aircraft look shiny,  and some look dull.   probably the best solution would be to meet it in the middle   flat silver with a semi gloss clear coat.........or you could go the other way around.   ....some ghosting at the cowl.......are you going to do an olive drab top?

I do clear Denis for the decals and the wash with the wash being oil base will be going Future for the clear.

[Javlin]

Some colors laid down starting to look the part fellas.I am working nights for awhile it looks like so progress gets slower down to work maybe  three nights a week.I may redo the red to a brighter shade to match the decals. Kevin

[popeye the sailor]

that might be hard to do.........I've only seen a couple shades of flat red.   unless your using acrylics,  then you may have more choices...I only use enamels.   you might bring the anti glare on the nose down a bit.......mask from the canopy line,  bringing it down even along the exhaust ports.   really looking good though....the striping is awesome!  

[Javlin]

 Actually Denis probably made the panel a tad fat according to instructions in the first post and most P-51's  but it is what it is Kevin

[Javlin]

Denis you were right hardly changed the color maybe a shade probably should of painted white first then the red live and learn.I have gotten the tailcolors on with a boo-boo forgot to put the tail numbers on first all's not lost I will just cut out the numbers that would show should work.The decals are thick so Walthers was used this stuff works but it scares the bejibbees out of me some crinkles stay it seemed though when I applied regular solvaset to the  plane placed decal applied Walthers it smoothed out better.I still have to apply the bottom tailplanes stripes will follow that track and see if the results are more to my liking. Kevin

[Jack12477]

Kevin, did you make that stand for the plane ?  Nice work on the plane ! 

[Javlin]

17 minutes ago, Jack12477 said:

Kevin, did you make that stand for the plane ?  Nice work on the plane ! 

Yea Jack I have seen them that you could buy for $25 and up and said "just keep it simple" so there it is.I do not handling planes as they are being painted and really when I get to the clearing stage.Jack I think I have about 1hr+ in the project was working on the other side of the shop doing another project I was asked for assistance on......my wood pile ...............and BS wood in the shed.

[Jack12477]

Nice workbench ! Nice roomy workshop too.  Love the plane stand jig. 

Edited November 9, 2019 by Jack12477

[flying_dutchman2]

Why is the P-51 called "Flying Dutchman"? Do not see anything related to The Netherlands. 

 

Marcus 

[Jack12477]

2 hours ago, flying_dutchman2 said:

Why is the P-51 called "Flying Dutchman"? Do not see anything related to The Netherlands. 

 

Marcus 

It is not the plane but the pilot who flew it, Robert Goebel, a Double Ace.  See the very first post for the history .

[lmagna]

I wish I had a work station like that instead of one end of the dining table, (When not in use and non holiday times). It would have enough space to allow several builds to progress at the same time. Just have a wheeled chair and shift down the workbench to the next model waiting your attention!

[flying_dutchman2]

18 hours ago, Jack12477 said:

It is not the plane but the pilot who flew it, Robert Goebel, a Double Ace.  See the very first post for the history .

"Goebel" is a German name not Dutch. Also read about him on the Net and nowhere does it say he is Dutch, or am I missing something? 

 

Marcus 

[lmagna]

The name of the aircraft may have nothing to do with the ethnicity of the pilot.

If you remember part of the legend of the "Flying Dutchman" of sailing ship fame is that seeing the "Flying Dutchman" was a harbinger of doom meaning your end is near. Possibly Goebel had this connotation in mind when he named the aircraft instead of a reference to himself. 

Edited November 10, 2019 by lmagna

[flying_dutchman2]

I magna, 

Thank you for the explanation. 

Marcus 

[Javlin]

19 hours ago, lmagna said:

I wish I had a work station like that instead of one end of the dining table, (When not in use and non holiday times). It would have enough space to allow several builds to progress at the same time. Just have a wheeled chair and shift down the workbench to the next model waiting your attention!

Lou my actual workstation for model building has always been called the office it's on the other side of that wood pile stands a cabinet built into a wall the room measures 6'WX16"L a couple of pics.

 

And Lou Thanks for the explanation could remember the story itself of the "Flying Dutchman" but that makes plenty of sense. Kevin

Edited November 11, 2019 by Javlin

[lmagna]

18 hours ago, flying_dutchman2 said:

Thank you for the explanation.

Not much of an explanation really, just a possibility. Sometimes you are able to find the explanation behind nose art, but in this case I was not able to. I was also not able to find any explanation on Goebel's ethnicity. I think that is because back then just being "American" was enough in most cases. So my explanation for the name "Flying Dutchman" is just an idea and nothing more. I have no actual grounds to give authentication to the idea. 

 

I'm jealous of that room, or part of the room as well Kevin!  I suppose I would be jealous of any permanent work space that was located in a common part of the house. I have thought of possibly converting one corner of our parlor that we almost never use as a work space but I am not all that certain how that would go over with my wife. Maybe someday. 

Edited November 11, 2019 by lmagna

[CDW]

I dunno for sure Lou, but I think you may have nailed the message behind the name. 

[popeye the sailor]

I think you did well also Lou.........given what I know of the lore.  there's a story about a train........and a big rig........and of course the infamous Flying Dutchman.   it was indeed a dutch ship,  of the East India Company VOC.

    the story is long and drawn out, but it was cursed to sail the seas for eternity,  never to make port.   read the whole story here:

https://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/legend-flying-dutchman-ghostly-apparition-ship-captain-hendrick-007285

 

quite a collection of planes you have there