Lt. Biggles Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share #61 Posted August 9, 2020 22 hours ago, Louie da fly said: Looking very good! Have you sorted out the deck colour yet, or are you leaving it to "percolate" in your head for a while? Here is the deck as it is now, I added tiny bits of pigment and put some streaks on it to try break it up, which I think looks horrible... probably should have masked the area instead of just a general smudge but can’t reverse it now. I think It’s just missing something to make it blend into the ship and not look out of place... I just don’t know what though. Maybe I just leave it alone and move on with the build. Anyone have any thoughts? Honesty is welcome. Louie da fly, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted August 10, 2020 Share #62 Posted August 10, 2020 From the photos it doesn't look bad. Perhaps it looks worse in real life, I don't know. But we're always our own worst critics. Keep in mind that the deck furniture will break up the look of the deck,and it may cease to be a problem as you progress further into the build. If you're really unhappy with it and can't do anything to change it, I suppose the best thing to do is put it down to experience. But I'd say proceed with the build and see if the glaring fault that's so obvious to you now doesn't fade into the background as you go on. mtaylor, Tigerdvr and popeye the sailor 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share #63 Posted August 10, 2020 I took the pictures in sunlight which seems to bring out the badness in the deck. I don’t think it’s ruined at all just a lot different than I was imagining. But I think you are right, there is a whole lot of deck furniture to add that will break the deck up... in a good way. I’ll leave it how it is and see how it looks at the end of the build. Thanks in a few weeks I’ve a feeling I’ll be up to the final detail parts, of which there are a lot! I’m just really happy I don’t have to make 3000 anti aircraft guns! Hehe popeye the sailor, Louie da fly, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted August 12, 2020 Share #64 Posted August 12, 2020 Try gently dry brushing the areas where it is darkest (is that the areas you are on about?) use the same sand-ish colour paint as the main deck, and gently dry brush over to see if it blends it, as long as you did it very very carefully making sure the brush is virtually paint free it might help a bit. Failing that you always try a gentle stain (Im sure you must be able to get them for model building?) you could go either lighter or sligthy darker, that also might work? OC. mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted August 12, 2020 Share #65 Posted August 12, 2020 It’s really hard to work up a pre chewed wooden deck. I’ve had best results using Tamiya powders. Otherwise when I did Graf Zeppelin I used AK Washes dipped at the end of each plank then pencils and with my US carrier airbrushed tan Old Collingwood, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share #66 Posted August 20, 2020 Thanks for the tips guys, I think I’ll leave it how it is and then once everything is on come back and if it stands out then try some dry brushing and perhaps get some washes but I’ll leave that for now as it’s ground the build almost to a halt waiting for it to fix itself!! I’ve been lacking spare time but apart from making 12 little binoculars and putting the A/A guns on I’ve completed the super structure build and just have to paint it. Everything now seems to take ages to do tiny details. Negotiated with the carpet monster... traded an hour of my time for one tiny piece of PE! Made 6 searchlights and cut out some of the windows as I think it looks better but it’s fiddly work and had to glue some of the frames back on as the knife loved taking them clean off! but once on looked the part. also started on the anchor area. so will have to research that to try get it looking right. To add to the slow progress everything has to be made then painted away from the ship. No more sub part construction like the superstructure, which I really enjoyed. Feels like I’m moving into the final third of the build now. Deck furniture and all the small but many details mtaylor, Old Collingwood, coxswain and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share #67 Posted August 20, 2020 A progress update so you can see what she looks like at this stage. Hard to get a pic of the whole ship and also any details! coxswain, Old Collingwood, yvesvidal and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted August 21, 2020 Share #68 Posted August 21, 2020 Getting better and better all the time. So you have a carpet monster, too? Mine is very voracious, but it's not always the thing at fault. I dropped a piece off the workbench, looked and looked for it for a long time with no success. Swept the carpet and sorted through what I'd swept up. Looked under all the furniture - nothing. Went off and did something else to get my mind off it, hoping the aliens who'd pinched it would have returned it when I came back. Nope. Then it occurred to me - it's cold where I live and I usually wear ugg boots when I'm modelling. Yep - the piece had fallen down my boot. Fortunately it wasn't anything fragile, so it hadn't broken. mtaylor, lmagna, Tigerdvr and 4 others 7 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share #69 Posted August 22, 2020 It’s such a good feeling when you finally find the piece you thought was lost forever!! This afternoon I dropped the last set of 1:350 brass binoculars... gone! But got lots of little bits primed and undercoated as well as dirtying up the anchor chain areas. Will just give it a hint of use as I’m sure they would have washed off all the salt water and kept the area pretty ship shape, but surly that chain would be pretty harsh on the area too!? Old Collingwood, coxswain, lmagna and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted August 22, 2020 Share #70 Posted August 22, 2020 I love watching this build. Trumpeter is allegedly bring out Dido class destroyers and a Nelson ( both of which I just have to build.). These ships had such a heavy workload in WW2 I can weather the hell out of them. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share #71 Posted August 25, 2020 I’ve been following your French battleship build and you make it look like it’s more difficult to boil the kettle than build a ship haha! You build yours so fast and so much extra details! Looks really good! Won’t take you long to get those 2 ships underway once out, weathering them would be great fun! Some of those ships really worked hard! Meanwhile I spend a full afternoon Working on mine and hardly any visible progress made. Louie da fly, RGL, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share #72 Posted August 25, 2020 Did manage to complete all the life rafts which is a good bit of progress. hard to find much practical info on them and in the background of a few odd photos... seems at the time no one thought anyone would be interested all these years later in all the odd details like that. So took a few liberties, if anyone knows I’m way out then do let me know and I’ll remove them, but I used some of my newly arrived EZ line to tie them to the deck. Would have been secured somehow. Also been working on my base, may be abit ambitious but running lots of tests and experiments to see if it’s possible. It’s quite a different branch of art than model building so it’s been a nice break when over PE or painting and weathering. Haven’t committed to it yet but here is a sneak peak of what I’ve managed to come up with so far in my tests... thoughts? Louie da fly, RGL, Haliburton and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine2386 Posted August 26, 2020 Share #73 Posted August 26, 2020 Hi All, New to this site and ship building. Been hunkering down here in Houston waiting for the hurricane to pass so I’ve had time to look at all of these builds. Y’all do some really amazing work! Especially the PE work. I’ve always like ships from the IJN. I’ve got some things in the mail and should start maybe the Tone shortly. Thanks for all the great inspiration! mtaylor, popeye the sailor, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share #74 Posted August 27, 2020 10 hours ago, Peregrine2386 said: Hi All, New to this site and ship building. Been hunkering down here in Houston waiting for the hurricane to pass so I’ve had time to look at all of these builds. Y’all do some really amazing work! Especially the PE work. I’ve always like ships from the IJN. I’ve got some things in the mail and should start maybe the Tone shortly. Thanks for all the great inspiration! Hey mate, Welcome aboard! The IJN have some good looking ships! Hopefully you start a build log on here too so we can follow along! The PE does make a huge difference, hard to imagine doing a ship build without it now. There is a really good bunch of people on this site with tonnes of knowledge and experience so easy to get some tips which is great! Louie da fly, popeye the sailor and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 27, 2020 Share #75 Posted August 27, 2020 12 hours ago, Peregrine2386 said: Hi All, New to this site and ship building. Been hunkering down here in Houston waiting for the hurricane to pass so I’ve had time to look at all of these builds. Y’all do some really amazing work! Especially the PE work. I’ve always like ships from the IJN. I’ve got some things in the mail and should start maybe the Tone shortly. Thanks for all the great inspiration! Hi Peregrine2386. I suggest you go here and introduce yourself to the forum: https://modelshipworld.com/forum/3-new-member-introductions/ Louie da fly, Canute, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share #76 Posted August 27, 2020 5 hours ago, mtaylor said: Hi Peregrine2386. I suggest you go here and introduce yourself to the forum: https://modelshipworld.com/forum/3-new-member-introductions/ Ah I didn’t even know that there was a new member introduction page! mtaylor, Louie da fly, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share #77 Posted August 27, 2020 Weathering on the superstructure is almost complete. Under different light sources it looks very different. So I almost over do it under my strong lamp light and under softer light and sun light it looks about right I think. As for the ocean base, I’ve started my second test with changes I picked up from the first test. It’s getting close to what I’m after and water is quite tricky to look natural! yvesvidal, RGL, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerdvr Posted August 27, 2020 Share #78 Posted August 27, 2020 IMHO, you have a very good water texture with a swell pushing along but not quite breaking to white water. Some folks seem to build a nice model, create a good sea base and then screw it up with a wake that looks like rows of soldiers coming off the hull at a constant 45 degree angle. I certainly doubt that will be the case with your build as you show a good grasp of how water works. Can't wait to see the finished product. Enjoy, Harley lmagna, Louie da fly, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit Completed: F-35A 1/48 by Tamiya USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started,On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted August 28, 2020 Share #79 Posted August 28, 2020 Looking really good. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with the ocean and the weathering. lmagna, mtaylor and popeye the sailor 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share #80 Posted August 30, 2020 I will try my best to do the ocean as good as I can. My plan is to have her cruising at about 10 kts and is a pretty calm sea. A 4-5 ft swell at 1:350 scale equals about 4-5mm which is very subtle. Ive been reading a lot about Kelvin’s theory and other bits about ships wake behaviour, I seem to learn the most from drawings and diagrams. So no wakes in straight lines at 45 degrees! In fact it seems 19.5 degrees is the magic angle. She was over 220m long so most of the disturbed water looks quite close to the ship in photos. (This picture is of HMS King George V, close enough to use as reference I’m sure most would agree) I’ve looked at so many pictures of all types of ships and their wake that they have all started to look fake and unrealistic haha!! yvesvidal, ccoyle, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share #81 Posted September 2, 2020 Initially I thought I’d make the sea base out of resin, so did a few projects to see how it would go. Made a 1:350 scale uboat and did a 1.5ltr deep resin pour, it’s quite a pedantic medium so quickly learns it was too big of a risk as it’s easy to mess up with bubbles so I made a Rimu base (New Zealand native timber) fitted with leds and now it’s my lamp. Also made a crashed 1:72 scale zero that I was going to cover with resin too but don’t trust the resin now. So it just sits in the corner. so that’s why I’m doing the base the way I am, so if I ruin it then I can just do it again without having to make another ship from the beginning also! I’m doing one last test with wake that will be covered with the ocean surface texture and painted, if it looks right I can get the real base going. I needed a break from all the PE and had a few mishaps with bits falling and breaking so more repairs than progress on the ship this week. popeye the sailor, lmagna, mtaylor and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share #82 Posted September 10, 2020 So found some time over the last few days been enjoying my little break from working only on the ship itself, just deck furniture to do and a few other bits, slow but steady. As for the base I covered it with oat bran. then paper towel soaked in medium covered that then did a base coat of blue so now I can check the surface and remove any unocean looking blobs and points. once thats all done ill paint the ocean surface and complete the rest of the surface. the option is always there to ripe the surface off and do it again if it doesn’t look right. I’ll see how it progresses Landlubber Mike, popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share #83 Posted September 12, 2020 Ah the last 2 weeks of the build summed up in one picture! will be the 3rd time rebuilding this funnel. Will give this one a few days before I even look at it again haha took a few hours to find all the parts as I absolutely had to find all of them. Still missing a few pieces from one of the Pom poms that broke a week ago! On the bright side both of the masts haven’t taken any damage at all so I’m happy about that. The sea base is coming along well, quite enjoying that and it’s crazy how small she ship seems now with 2/3 of the hull invisible under the waterline! I’ll regroup and in a few days continue the build!! ccoyle, lmagna, hof00 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted September 12, 2020 Share #84 Posted September 12, 2020 I have broken off that many masts repositioning my ships it beggars belief, as they are always already rigged and need CA and a quick set solution. Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and Canute 3 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted September 12, 2020 Share #85 Posted September 12, 2020 I can't seem to put a like to that last picture...........done too much of that stuff myself at the moment, I'm on the lookout for an engine mount for a B 25 project that I started...........can't for the life of me figure out where it got off to......the part is big enough! amazing work your doing with this project........really nice PE detail! your idea of the water diorama look super.......to be honest.....it looks great just the way it is.............will look even better with the break waters keep it up....your doing great! Old Collingwood, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragzz Posted September 13, 2020 Share #86 Posted September 13, 2020 vary nice work indeed keep up the great work Old Collingwood, Canute, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote this is my dry docks side build hms victory/corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/4698-hms-victroy-by-dragzz-corel-scale-198/ side build waiting on parts /king of the mississippi/ al kit http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3490-king-of-the-mississippi-by-dragzz-al-scale180/?hl=%20king%20%20the%20%20mississipp current build mare nostrum al kit http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8125-mare-nostrum-by-artesania-latina-scale-135-by-dragzz-small/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share #87 Posted September 20, 2020 So the broken funnel has still not been touched and done a few bits on the ship but once in the right zone I think the rest will be done pretty quick. I thought I’d be finished around the end of the year so it’s gone lots faster than I expected. the sea base got a few layers of oils to get the textures I wanted of a deep pretty calm water and a ship speed of about 10 knots. and a few coats of high gloss varnish. The white water is the last step now. The white water is just on one side and just sitting there not glued down as it’s quite tricky and haven’t got it worked out on my test pieces yet. But it gives a good idea of what it will be like. It adds a nice sense of motion compared to no white water which I quite like. Having the light behind the ship really really brings the water to life but my phone’s camera can’t capture it Old Collingwood, Canute, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted September 20, 2020 Share #88 Posted September 20, 2020 I look at all the IWM photos of the RN Ships from WW2, they have that fantastic black and white crispness I’d live to see in colour. Canute, mtaylor and Lt. Biggles 3 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share #89 Posted September 21, 2020 On 9/20/2020 at 8:25 PM, RGL said: I look at all the IWM photos of the RN Ships from WW2, they have that fantastic black and white crispness I’d live to see in colour. There are some great shots! Would have been quite the sight to have been there and seen them sail past Canute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Biggles Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share #90 Posted September 23, 2020 So Finally I bit the bullet and started on the deck vents and bits. I like how the reflection shows the vents... Took me a lot of time to to find out which vents face which way... but worked them out. Starting at the back and working my way forward. Once they are down I’ll be able to glue the life rafts down once I know how much room I’ve got to play with! hof00, Landlubber Mike, RGL and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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