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I bought the Harold Hahn book, “The Colonial Schooner” a while back.  This is an excellent book.  It has the plans for the Hannah and a couple other schooners.

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Harold Hahn built his models in an admiralty style.  I’m not that good.  
 

I like to build plank on bulkhead.

 

However, the book has hull lines and where there are hull lines, there can be bulkheads easily made.

 

I have discovered that card works beautifully for me.

 

So I am starting with this:

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and turning it into this:90D0E84E-C275-457A-A1A7-022BFE6DCCDA.jpeg.be41c14568e2ce922825c605fddc190d.jpeg

The picture is from the US Navy’s History and Heritage Command.

 

I chose the Hannah because I would like to make a relatively quick build.  Schooners have very easy to make rigs and are relatively simple to make.  The Hannah has a very simplistic design with a simple head and no decorations at all.  She will make a nice change of pace from the Victory.

 

I am building in 1/72 scale because it is a very convenient scale that is large enough to get as detailed as you want without having to work at super small scale.  It will also match the Prince de Neufchatel’s scale.

Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

At this point, I have drawn out and prepped most of what would be included in a kit.

 

All bulkheads are ready to cut, the center keel plate is ready to cut, and both the under deck and top layers are ready to cut.

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I am pretty much building this like any other plank on bulkhead model, just using cardboard from a box instead of plywood.

 

Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

Phil, I believe this child will be following you on this build. This medium is of interest and she’s a beautiful little ship. 

Current build: Model Shipways “Confederacy “

 

Completed builds:

Mamoli “Royal Louis“

Mantua “Royal Caroline”

Scratch 1/4 scale gondola “Philadelphia”

Scratch “Hannah” from Hahn plans. 

 

Posted

The first day’s work is done on Hannah:

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I did the hardest part.  I converted the line drawings to bulkheads and laid out all structural parts on cardboard or poster board.

 

Now, it’s just a matter of cut and assemble.

 

This is a much easier build than my first scratch build.

 

I’m still mostly using Ab Hoving’s methods.  I just modified them a little bit.

 

If you haven’t seen his tutorial on this website, I strongly recommend it.  He lays everything out very neatly and explains the whole process very well.  
 

I built the Prince de Neufchatel after I read it, following it.

Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

Hi Phil,

Where AB Hoving's tutorial?  If it's here on MSW, it might be a good idea to pin it in the proper forum.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Welcome aboard!


Gaetan,

  That book I have pictured has the plans for the schooners Hannah and Halifax.

 

I think I paid about $20 for it on EBay.


 

 

I finished cutting the bulkheads out and cut out the under decking.

 

I glued the under deck to the top of the center keel piece, only.

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I will let it dry over night and then start gluing the bulkheads in place (which are currently loose).

 

I am using Mont Marte PVA glue that I ordered off Amazon.

 

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Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

I have started gluing bulkheads:

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The Mont Marte glue is working wonderfully.

 

A quick note: I have always had problems with making the frame of the model and covering it.

 

I am good at the detailing part of the model, but I have a hard time with the early stages of a model.  
 

Another lesson learned from the past is that this does not matter if the model started as a kit, or from scratch.  Once you cut out the hull framing parts, you have what primarily comes in most kits.

Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

So far, so good:

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Everything is glued in place.

 

I have identified a couple of bulkheads (l, the one sticking up in the back, and f), that are going to require some slight improvement.  I will build them up with posterboard once they dry and do some minor reshaping.

 

Note to self-person:  check for this BEFORE you glue.

 

I will also make some spacers where the two decks meet, between f and g, to correct a slight bend.

 

Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

Once those repairs are made (or while they are drying), I need to do a few things.  I need to make four transom framing pieces.  I need to cut out the holes for the mast, in the bulkheads.  I need to cut a hole in the framing around the square in the forward deck to simulate a hold.  I will need to block that in with card and paint that to make it look like there is a deck there.

 

Then I can fair everything and cover the hull, exactly like I did the Prince de Neufchatel.

Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

I modified the initial plan after looking at the model of Hannah in the US Navy’s museum.

 

I ended up fairing the entire hull and only built up frame f.  Frame l was fine.  Frame m stuck down too much.  I am waiting on the glue to dry so I can carve down f.
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I cut the hole for the hold.  I made two spacers and ended up shimming one side of that.  I also drilled/cut the mast holes.

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I still need to make the framing pieces for the transom.  I’ve never done this part before, so it will be a learning experience.

Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

The bottom of the keel piece is covered:

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The transom pieces will be ready to cut once the patterns dry.  Then I will have to carefully fit them.

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I have a bad habit of playing a game of Make It Up As We Go Along with my builds.  This one will be no different, lol.

Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

The first painting of the model has been done:

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The bottom of the hold has been painted.  I deliberately left brush strokes going fore and aft so I can ink it a dark brown and give the impression of wood grain.

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The box will go on top of it and be painted black on the inside.

Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

I had the Hannah mostly ready for “planking”:

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It only needed the transom pieces, and I debated on waiting until after adding the hull skin to attach them.  However, they assist with the stern hull contour, so I went ahead and added them.

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The transom pieces were not anywhere near as painful or difficult to draw, make or install, as I thought they would be.  This is good to know for when I make a frigate or other larger warship.

 

As a quick side note, all corrugated cardboard in visible areas will be either closed off (made to look solid like the keel and breakwater) or removed, after “planking”.

 

The word planking is in quotation marks because the initial run of planking will be made of the same stuff beer coasters are, a pulp board type paper (I found a sheet of it on an online craft store), and will be vertical, with the bulkheads.  I will be using the exact same method that I did on the Prince de Neufchatel.

 

 

 

Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

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