Building a Medieval fortress - by Waitoa - Del Prado 1/87

[Edwardkenway]

The like isn't  for the drop obviously 😉

You're doing good 👍

[Kevin]

2 hours ago, Waitoa said:

Interested in how Kevin and Ekis do their walls.  I tend to zig zag my bricks laying a course of bricks for each length of wall.  This means that different parts of the walls are at different heights which hopefully shows what I mean.  This stops me from getting bored but also allows me to run a file across the top so it is relatively flat for the next layer.  Also it has allowed me to weave the various bricks in on the corners and has made it quite strong.  Accidentally dropped it and other than a few bricks it held together.

 

Ekis and Kevin - your thoughts?

i am still finding a way the suits my style of building, unfortunately i am perhaps trying to hard, and sanding every other level flat. so i am getting a dressed brick effect

also i dont quite understand the scales used on the kits,  my bridge is 1/350 the castles i have for Christmas are 1/135 i think but still use the same size bricks 5x5mm maybe my style of building suits the smaller scale

[king derelict]

I think the bricks are a standard size across the kits. I built the ruined medieval watchtower which seems to be about 1/72 scale and I'm now building the Towers of Rochelle which is 1/200 and the bricks are the same in both kits. 

The watchtower went fairly quickly but I'm very slow building the Towers. The shapes of the main tower require sanding almost every brick to fit. It's still fun but I need to take a break now and then and build something else. I'm not sure why the picture of tower is the wrong way up. It's resisting my attempts to flip it

[Kevin]

4 minutes ago, king derelict said:

I think the bricks are a standard size across the kits. I built the ruined medieval watchtower which seems to be about 1/72 scale and I'm now building the Towers of Rochelle which is 1/200 and the bricks are the same in both kits. 

The watchtower went fairly quickly but I'm very slow building the Towers. The shapes of the main tower require sanding almost every brick to fit. It's still fun but I need to take a break now and then and build something else. I'm not sure why the picture of tower is the wrong way up. It's resisting my attempts to flip it

 

very nice indeed, well stuck on otherwise they would fall off being upside down, 

[Waitoa]

21 minutes ago, Kevin said:

very nice indeed, well stuck on otherwise they would fall off being upside down, 

Far better than my drop test, looks good by the way and there is always more room for these builds.

 

Kevin - thanks experimenting with various ways o building so good to get your comments 

[Ekis]

Well, I build like you, by shifting the stones one on top of the other. One that a line of stones is in place, one file stroke to find horizontality and attack the next row.
For the corners of thick walls, the corners of towers, I do differently by making the edges first with larger stones to respect the period constructions (see attached photo).

 

 

 

The stones in the kits are the same indeed, which is a pity for the realism of these constructions and their different scale. I imagine that it is necessary for the manufacturer to make kits that seem simpler to assemble, and easier to manage at the factory...

But not for this village, Waitoa. You have big stones (15x7x5) and the "normal" 10x5x5.
At Aedes Ars, there are others, flatter (10x3x5) or smaller (8x4x4) or 6x3x3 that I used for the last house in front and the normal stones for the side walls.

 

For my part, I try to vary the sizes of the stones according to their use in the village. I do the same thing with the different tiles, rectangular, large or small, or square.

Edited November 26, 2020 by Ekis

[Kevin]

7 hours ago, Ekis said:

Well, I build like you, by shifting the stones one on top of the other. One that a line of stones is in place, one file stroke to find horizontality and attack the next row.
For the corners of thick walls, the corners of towers, I do differently by making the edges first with larger stones to respect the period constructions (see attached photo).

 

 

 

 

The stones in the kits are the same indeed, which is a pity for the realism of these constructions and their different scale. I imagine that it is necessary for the manufacturer to make kits that seem simpler to assemble, and easier to manage at the factory...

But not for this village, Waitoa. You have big stones (15x7x5) and the "normal" 10x5x5.
At Aedes Ars, there are others, flatter (10x3x5) or smaller (8x4x4) or 6x3x3 that I used for the last house in front and the normal stones for the side walls.

 

 

 

For my part, I try to vary the sizes of the stones according to their use in the village. I do the same thing with the different tiles, rectangular, large or small, or square.

love the door template idea

[popeye the sailor]

love to see this in an armor diorama........some very fine work going on here  

[Waitoa]

Thanks Ekis for the detailed response, looked at having the larger bricks on the corners and as the first layer of bricks but am now holding them back for use on the walls.   Plucking up the courage to try your weathering technique as it looks amazing.

 

Waitoa

[Waitoa]

8 broken versions but finally got the brick shaped correctly!  So much for this being a stress reliever.

[popeye the sailor]

I have a friend that does masonry........interesting to see how he works.   very nice!

[Waitoa]

Although I still need to do the final clean up and sanding think the extra effort on the windows is starting to pay off.  Need to finish this building before mo ing on but already getting tempted by the watchtower.

[Old Collingwood]

Tell the fryer to be careful of that rubble  or he will be over.     looking nice.

 

OC.

[Waitoa]

On 12/6/2020 at 10:20 PM, Old Collingwood said:

Tell the fryer to be careful of that rubble  or he will be over.     looking nice.

 

OC.

Thanks, small update in the form of a well.  Still plugging away at the walls and getting really excited about the roof tiles...

[captain_hook]

Very nice! Meanwhile there are a bunch of nice medieval kits out there.

[Waitoa]

55 minutes ago, captain_hook said:

Very nice! Meanwhile there are a bunch of nice medieval kits out there.

Thanks for the comment.  Any suggestions on the kits as need to plan out the rest and open to ideas on buildings, people, wagons etc.  May have to do some scratch building.

[Kevin]

very nice, after my church im looking at doing a warehouse

[Waitoa]

7 hours ago, Kevin said:

very nice, after my church im looking at doing a warehouse

Me t on my list is a watchtower it will look similar to Ekis’ one as it came with the original kit but sure mine will look like it has done 20 rounds with a series of siege weapons.  After that I have half a house and half a lords manor that came with the original kit.  Then I have 3 houses that came with an Aedes Ars kit sadly I am in love with their bricks.

 

Will need to scratch build the gate house and want to add a forge, stable and a series of animal pens.  Definitely keen on doing a silage pile but not sure how to model that big. 

[Kevin]

i will have to scratch everything, but i can get a rough idea by counting the amount of bricks to get the length and height, the pile of wet grass for your silage pile sounds interesting

 

[Egilman]

Well I see the MSW Stone Masons Guild is taking off.....

 

Gonna have to consider membership....

[Old Collingwood]

4 hours ago, Egilman said:

Well I see the MSW Stone Masons Guild is taking off.....

 

Gonna have to consider membership....

And a Gold Trowel for the members.😁

 

OC.

[Laura]

Hi here is one my grandad completed I now have at home due to him sadly passing. What do you think? 

Edited December 13, 2020 by Laura

[Ekis]

Oh, it's very nice to see a finished realization of the original Del Prado kit with its decoration elements and the diorama!
In addition to having had the courage to finish it completely, I think your grandfather did an excellent job: bravo!
Thank you for sharing it with us, Laura! 😉

[Canute]

Nicely done diorama. And your great memories.

[Laura]

1 hour ago, Ekis said:

Oh, it's very nice to see a finished realization of the original Del Prado kit with its decoration elements and the diorama!
In addition to having had the courage to finish it completely, I think your grandfather did an excellent job: bravo!
Thank you for sharing it with us, Laura! 😉

Thank you very much for your kind words means a lot. I couldn’t see all of his work go to waste so it is a nice piece to hold onto 

[Laura]

1 hour ago, Canute said:

Nicely done diorama. And your great memories.

Thank you and it certainly is 

[Laura]

3 minutes ago, Laura said:

Thank you very much for your kind words means a lot. I couldn’t see all of his work go to waste so it is a nice piece to hold onto 

He also made a ship which my aunty now has in her home 

Edited December 13, 2020 by Laura

[Kevin]

2 hours ago, Laura said:

Hi here is one my grandad completed I now have at home due to him sadly passing. What do you think? 

 

 

 

lovely to see a completed set

[Laura]

10 minutes ago, Kevin said:

lovely to see a completed set

Thank you 

[Waitoa]

Thanks for sharing Laura, it takes a lot of effort and perseverance to complete such a large project and get these results your grandfather must have been a talented modeller.