Cutty Sark by NenadM

[NenadM]

Thank you, dear friends, this was only experiment. Having seen what I have to do, started to make bottom panels. Panel is made from veneer 1mm thick, glued on regular veneer. Rounded batten 1x1mm was "pulled out" from squared batten 2x2mm. Square batten stays 2mm, later will be fitted to existing white batten on hull

One almost ready for next step







Slowly ... 2,5 hours and only this done?

Bob, in mean time, remember this song from our youth ...


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K_MdSu0I620

Edited March 24, 2015 by Nenad

[NenadM]

Upper panel with more thiner mouldings

Edited March 24, 2015 by Nenad

[NenadM]

Rough works done. Next - fine trimming and positioning

Pointed details: on upper panel, outside moldings are more narrow than rounded molding on the bottom of lower panel

In my scale, this is about 0,5 mm and I can not make it more narrow. I use for it hardest wood I have - walnut strips 1x1 mm, and careful sanding, sanding, sanding until I reach 1/2 mm

Think I got them in scale (ok, near scale)

Also there is a little difference between C-plans, where both panels are equal length, and present look of CS where upper panel is little longer, and has rounded rear edge





It seems that working on gold ornaments and letters will be some kind of horror, because I have less space than on stern, and surface for ornaments is only 4-5mm wide

Edited March 24, 2015 by Nenad

[SawdustDave]

Very fine work my friend. Enjoying your beautiful build.

[mtaylor]

Wonderful work, Nenad.  I have confidence you'll get the ornaments and lettering sorted out. 

[omarcs]

Aw, the sweet smell of "do over".

 

Nenad, you are working on the same areas that I need to work. All the comments are rapidly changing the sequence in which I will do work. I think I should redo part of the bowsprit as built according to the kit. It is only glued to the deck. I wonder whether to drill a hole into the deck for the bowsprit, or glue with tiny screw through bowsprit into deck.

 

As always, your comments and continuous search for a better way to create an item provoke me to better things. 

 

Omar

[NenadM]

Waiting for a client to come ...

First attempt

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[GLakie]

Not bad for a first try Nenad! She's coming together. Thought you might like a pic of the real her under sail.

 

 

Cheers

[NenadM]

Famous and rare photos of Her under sails. She really was something

She is still something

Edited March 24, 2015 by Nenad

[NenadM]

I stolled some time from myself after full day of office job, to run some tests about this little "gold tinny star on blue rounded surface". Circle has 4mm diameter, and this is really little beast. Carving with thinnest and sharpest tool did not give me relief effect I expected on that scale. It seems that I have to glue there something really small and tinny.

Analyzing photos, I noticed that main look of gold ornament on lower panel has quite different visual structure than gold ornament on stern, which leads me to different way of making this. For now, I am thinking about clay with little side cuts ..
More tests in front

Speaking about this panel, on some photos, longitudinal rails are gold, and on some - white ???

Upper panel has/will have it's own story, considering very thin gold molding that surrounds letters and form square figures left and right

It will be more easy to work in 1:50 scale than this approx. 1:100, but I think that Admiral could not be happy with model of CS 2m long and more than 1,5 m high in adequate glass cage in our living room

Can you imagine 2m long model in living room 4,5 x 5,5m ? That would be something !

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[keelhauled]

Hi Nenad, 

the ship is looking great.  The bow and stern decorations have been re=carved numerous times if you look through the photos.  I've come across three different stern carvings.  a photo from 1954 has her stern completely different than today and the photos of her with the temporary rudder , but consistent with a model from 1868.  In some photos it looks like her gold is white.  I've also seen four different versions of the stars on her trail board.  I think that I read somewhere that she has had 4 figureheads, although the last three all look the same and still exists, while the original is lost.  The original was supposed to be a beautiful figure carved by a famous marine artists.  Her trail board and stern had topless witches originally, but if I remember correctly was changed before launch.

Keep up the great work!!

marc

 

Check that stern out!

Edited March 11, 2015 by keelhauled

[NenadM]

Thank you Marc.

Yellow or white railing around lower front panel - pure aesthetic issue. I decided long ago to try to copy Her today look, but just thinking - which option will look better both rails gold, both white, upper white down gold ... anyway matter of individual taste and feeling. Option with one white and one gold on some way match with aft visual solution .....

Edited March 24, 2015 by Nenad

[Mirabell61]

Waitin' for a client to come ...

 

First attempt

 

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The decor looks very nice Nenad,

 

Nils

[NenadM]

Thank you very much, Nils, but I am not satisfied jet

Just some more testing ...

This time, clay for relief











Hmmm.....

Edited March 24, 2015 by Nenad

[mtaylor]

<jaw drops><picks up jaw>  Fantastic relief work, Nenad.  And all this time, you are telling us you are not an artist.  

[NenadM]

You know Mark ... in neighbor's backyard, grass is always more green ... looking another's masterpieces on MSW, I do not feel as an artist, rather as semi-successful imitator playing around

There is an old Serbian saying

"even a blind chicken pickup seed from ground"

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[popeye the sailor]

super job Nenad!  WOW!

[Piet]

That's looking extremely nice Nenad!

 

Cheers,

[rwiederrich]

Hi Nenad, 

the ship is looking great.  The bow and stern decorations have been re=carved numerous times if you look through the photos.  I've come across three different stern carvings.  a photo from 1954 has her stern completely different than today and the photos of her with the temporary rudder , but consistent with a model from 1868.  In some photos it looks like her gold is white.  I've also seen four different versions of the stars on her trail board.  I think that I read somewhere that she has had 4 figureheads, although the last three all look the same and still exists, while the original is lost.  The original was supposed to be a beautiful figure carved by a famous marine artists.  Her trail board and stern had topless witches originally, but if I remember correctly was changed before launch.

Keep up the great work!!

marc

 

Check that stern out!

The-Cutty-Sark-in-1954-is-003.jpg

 

She sure was an elegant little thing.

 

The men on her fantail bring her into scale.  She was only 963 tons at 212 ft long...compared to the Glory of the Seas which bolstered 2103 tons at 240 ft long.  It is amazing the broad size difference between vessels that were clippers. 

 

Rob

[dgbot]

What kind of brush did you work with Nenad.  My hands are to clumsy to do that kind of work.  Bravo.  I bet you had a cold one when done to settle your nerves.  I know that I would need one.

[NenadM]

Thank you all for kind words, likes and support in my way to sadomasochism ...  

 

 

What kind of brush did you work with Nenad.  My hands are to clumsy to do that kind of work.  Bravo.  I bet you had a cold one when done to settle your nerves.  I know that I would need one.

 

Hello David

 

Somewhere in my log I posted  photo of brush I use ( less than 0,5 mm on top). For this kind of work, this brush is unusable ( too thick) and I used very sharped toothpick, with only little drop of color on same top ( the smallest you can pick up), making only dots, and lines from sequence of dots. In that scale of work, acrylic paint dry very fast ( and make larger drops on top of toothpick) and you have to continuously take care about viscosity and density of paint, particular if  you use little yellow add to gold acrylic as I did

 

Believe me, if you have patience and skill to make masterpieces from card ( USS Maine, Monitor Lehigh etc) on the way you did, you have all you need for something like I try to do. You have patience, skill, and good magnifier I suppose, and that is all you need

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[NenadM]

Enough testing Nenad, be brave and go forward

I finally resolved camera issue ... just bought micro SD for old HTC, and turned it to camera to be always in workshop, connected to home wifi. After shooting, with file transfer application, in a few seconds transfer photos to new htc, and can post them

Much better pictures, even close-ups









Circle is 4mm in diameter



Shooted with new phone, just to see difference

Edited March 24, 2015 by Nenad

[NenadM]

Enough testing Nenad, be brave and go forward

So, printed details on scsle from C-plans, re-scaled photo, pit paper in front of me, clean mess from table, and started with new mess on table ... it seems there can not be creativity without even a bit mess around ...

I finaly resolved camera issue ... just bought micro SD 4gb/4€ for old HTC, and turned it to be only camera to be always in workshop, connected to home wifi. Aftet shooting, with file transfer application, in a few seconds tranfer photos to new htc, and can post them

Much better pictures, even close-ups

Listening Simon&Garfunkel, here is today result. Two wooden details and first layer of gold cor on mouldings







Yes, I simulated rivets, but them can not be visible



Circle is 4mm in diameter, "cross" drawn with my toothpick tool



Shooted with new fone, just to see diference



I think that anchor hole will be thined a little, final decision about this will be made after relief works, when I see how it fit togethet

Edited March 24, 2015 by Nenad

[Piet]

That's looking real good Nenad.  Yup, understand your brush techniek, I use the same when I have to.

 

Cheers,

[rfolsom]

I can't believe I'm so far from keeping up with everyone... You're progress has been fantastic. 

[NenadM]

Thank you Piet. Nothing to compare with your hinges
 

I can't believe I'm so far from keeping up with everyone... You're progress has been fantastic.

Hey Bob, we miss you. But life first ... and piggy ... and Her Majesty

Edited March 24, 2015 by Nenad

[NenadM]

Oh, sweet taste of re-do

Technics and method are ok, but drawing is wrong.

In patience. Just inpatient. Once again. I draw main lines with graphite pen, and jumped over next step - to bold them before starting with clay, so, without continuous keeping of one eye to photo, I just missed right shape and look I want. Working with this little pieces of clay just occupied my attention, and I just follow wrong lines. See what I have done during making photos

With toothpick apply thin line of thinned wood glue, pick pieces of clay with same toothpick and just put it on the glued line, and after a while just fix relief with little drops of acrylic. I used gold in intend to be easier to see relief when paint surface black


Acrylic applied in dots hardened and help to fill spaces between pieces of clay, and to make all relief more consistent, and also every next layers rise up relief a bit

Edited March 24, 2015 by Nenad

[CaptainSteve]

Using tiny pieces of clay to make your bow decorations is a pretty clever method.

They look very good !!!

[NenadM]

And ... that is it

Just have no patience

For now




Maybe there will be some "edits" after mounting

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[GLakie]

Those look real nice Nenad! Nice job!

 

Cheers