Blue Ensign Posted September 15, 2020 #31 Posted September 15, 2020 Beautifully clean work, she's going to be a fine model. Great effect achieved on the hatch flooring.👍 B.E. Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation.
James H Posted September 15, 2020 #32 Posted September 15, 2020 Maybe I missed something, but how are you making those planks look so weathered? I really like that appearance. Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
PJG Posted September 15, 2020 Author #33 Posted September 15, 2020 Thanks guys, as always for the encouraging comments! On 9/15/2020 at 2:27 AM, James H said: Maybe I missed something, but how are you making those planks look so weathered? I really like that appearance. James...I'm using some of the walnut that was intended for the second layer of hull planking (there's a lot of it) but made sure to select the most diverse strips I could find so each board wasn't identical to its neighbor. I'm guessing these boards probably got beaten up and replaced quite often. I also found that flipping over boards from the same strip created a nice variety. With a very light sanding and a subtle whitewash (acrylic paint thinned to maybe 10% opacity) the results seemed reasonably believable. I'll be adding some "fishy" grime as well when the hold is fully assembled and detailed. Speaking of the hold...I probably should have pointed out that I'm actually building it outside the hull and will install it permanently later as a mini-model of its own. It's one of the very few advantages of cutting your boat in half...there's plenty of access from below! I'll also need to fabricate a rope room given that that hatch will be wide open on my build. I've also added these entirely speculative ventilation "windows/passages" that would allow our intrepid crew to pass from one end of the boat to the other without having to venture out into that nasty North Sea weather. They'll be covered by board and batten shutters. I may leave one ajar to give a little glimpse into the cabin. Again, this area will be so cluttered with gear and fish I doubt any of it will be visible. JpR62, bebopsteve, ccoyle and 5 others 8 Quote
bebopsteve Posted September 16, 2020 #34 Posted September 16, 2020 Excellent work!! I ordered the Fifie a few days ago and looking forward to the build! I am getting some great ideas and tips from your build, so thank you for posting the great pictures! Now I have a mentor for my build!!! MadDogMcQ and Ryland Craze 2 Quote
Kevin Posted September 16, 2020 #35 Posted September 16, 2020 just seen your work on MSW Faceboook, well done Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
Ronald-V Posted September 17, 2020 #36 Posted September 17, 2020 17 hours ago, Kevin said: just seen your work on MSW Faceboook, well done I found it also by that, amazing work so far PJG! Kevin 1 Quote Currently working on the HMS Sphinx from Vanguard Models
PJG Posted September 17, 2020 Author #37 Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/16/2020 at 12:57 AM, bebopsteve said: Excellent work!! I ordered the Fifie a few days ago and looking forward to the build! I am getting some great ideas and tips from your build, so thank you for posting the great pictures! Now I have a mentor for my build!!! Thanks Steve...I’m glad you’re following along. It’s a nice kit that I think you’ll enjoy. I’m looking forward to seeing how other builders tackle this kit! 23 hours ago, Kevin said: just seen your work on MSW Faceboook, well done 5 hours ago, mugje said: I found it also by that, amazing work so far PJG! Thanks guys! I wasn’t aware there was a MSW Facebook page! I’m one of the 5 people on earth that doesn’t have a FB account 😂🤦🏻♂️ bebopsteve, Ronald-V and Ryland Craze 3 Quote
PJG Posted September 20, 2020 Author #38 Posted September 20, 2020 A little more progress to report despite the obligatory to-do list of early Fall weekend chores here in upstate New York. The mini-model of the hold is mostly complete now. I intend to add details here and there where necessary depending how everything looks when all the stuff that lives down there is added later on. I'm still on the fence as to whether I'll be adding light below deck and how far I'll take detailing this area. The rope room is a must but I'm not sure if my "people" hatches will be open. The hold can be divided into various compartments depending on how the captain sees fit to arrange his catch. The nets are stored on the planks above to dry while excess water from both drains through the holes in the the floor to the bilge. The shutters covering my speculative hatches/passageways are also speculative. The hold fits nicely (despite my best efforts to screw it up) in the hull and will be added permanently later on. Moab, James H, ccoyle and 5 others 8 Quote
yvesvidal Posted September 21, 2020 #39 Posted September 21, 2020 This is all very fishy..... but so well made. Yves cog and BobG 2 Quote
PJG Posted October 16, 2020 Author #40 Posted October 16, 2020 My bench time on the actual boat has been hard to come by the last couple of weeks but I have been plugging away a little at a time on the tedious side-project of making miniature herring. I created a master template for the largest fish (just shy of .5" at 1/32 scale) using Adobe Illustrator and fed the .svg file to my Cricut die-cutting machine to test materials. Paper didn't hold up well to the cutting process so I opted for a more vellum-like material I use for frosted windows on my miniature building projects. This material held paint much better than the paper at this size as well. Once I was satisfied with the material, I created 2 more slightly smaller versions of the template to avoid too much uniformity across the board. In the end I cut somewhere around 400 of these guys thinking that would be more than enough. The jury is still out on that. My photos don't do justice to the metallic look of the painted fish...they actually shimmer quite nicely when viewed from the distance a person is likely to view the finished model. Some fish will be scattered around on deck and stuck in the nets while most will be in the hold under the net drying boards. It's a lot of work for such a small detail but ultimately I think it will be a nice touch. Now back to actually building the boat! Rik Thistle, bebopsteve, Ryland Craze and 15 others 18 Quote
James H Posted October 17, 2020 #41 Posted October 17, 2020 Those little fish look great! I'd be real happy wit those. chris watton and BobG 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
clearway Posted October 17, 2020 #42 Posted October 17, 2020 nice work, normally on small fishing vessels like this the catch is sorted into wooden fish crates on deck then stored in the hold and covered with ice (depending on which point in history you are modelling) have also seen some catches stored in wicker baskets on old photos, but when i was on fishing boats the boring old plastic baskets and fishboxes had taken over. BobG and Rik Thistle 2 Quote
PJG Posted October 17, 2020 Author #43 Posted October 17, 2020 13 hours ago, James H said: Those little fish look great! I'd be real happy wit those. Thanks James...I think they'll be ok once I have detail and weathering going on in the hold and on deck. 1 hour ago, clearway said: nice work, normally on small fishing vessels like this the catch is sorted into wooden fish crates on deck then stored in the hold and covered with ice (depending on which point in history you are modelling) have also seen some catches stored in wicker baskets on old photos, but when i was on fishing boats the boring old plastic baskets and fishboxes had taken over. Thanks for the helpful info Clearway. I believe this boat would have been active sometime just before and after the turn of the 20th century, say 1890-1910ish? From what I've been able to dig up on this particular type of vessel, the hold could be divided up into compartments at the captain's discretion with boards that fit between the posts below deck. I attempted to model that as best I could without specific plans. I have seen references to the wicker baskets that were used to haul the fish from the hold to the dock (Blue Ensign made these for his 1/64 Vanguard Fifie) and I plan to try my hand at a few of those myself. clearway and BobG 2 Quote
clearway Posted October 18, 2020 #44 Posted October 18, 2020 believe it or not the set up on yours was and probably still is very much in evidence on recent fishing boats, the compartments either side of the hold are used to stash the boxes of fish with the aforementioned ice. on deck the catch was deposited in the "pound" and a table set up on the starboard side, the fish was then gutted and sorted into boxes according to type (cod in one, herring in another etc etc) we used the baskets fore prawns which back when i was on the boats all had to be "tailed" by twisting the heads off the tails, sometimes around a thousand prawns in a catch)! The fishroom was isolated from the rest of the boat and was only accessed when storing the catch or unloading. I was born in the mid 60's to a fisherman father so was walking around on the old wooden fishing boats from the age of around three! can still remember the polished brass chronometer and barometer in the cabin and the varnished woodwork/ polished brass and the coal stove in the corner, sadly most of them will be gone now. If chasing the herring though they just loaded up and headed back to port (can remember herring boats coming into whitehaven nearly awash and the crew still frantically trying to sort clear the decks as they were 100 feet from the quay they caught that much in one day! Keith BobG and Rik Thistle 2 Quote
PJG Posted October 18, 2020 Author #45 Posted October 18, 2020 4 hours ago, clearway said: on deck the catch was deposited in the "pound" Thank you Keith, this is very helpful. On the kit plans, the planks used to divide the topside deck areas on either side of the hold are referred to as "pond boards". In my overly literal brain, I convinced myself that these areas must have held water somehow for some reason and tried my best to confirm this via research. Now that I've been relieved of that silly misconception, I can give Google a rest for a while. I'm guessing Amati just dropped the U in pound somewhere along the line. 5 hours ago, clearway said: I was born in the mid 60's to a fisherman father so was walking around on the old wooden fishing boats from the age of around three! That sounds like a wonderful experience and yet another reason why this is such a great forum. There's almost always someone around with real expertise willing to offer a helping hand. It's greatly appreciated! Patrick clearway, Rik Thistle and BobG 3 Quote
Rik Thistle Posted October 18, 2020 #46 Posted October 18, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 12:43 AM, PJG said: A little more progress to report despite the obligatory to-do list of early Fall weekend chores here in upstate New York. The mini-model of the hold is mostly complete now. I intend to add details here and there where necessary depending how everything looks when all the stuff that lives down there is added later on. I'm still on the fence as to whether I'll be adding light below deck and how far I'll take detailing this area. The rope room is a must but I'm not sure if my "people" hatches will be open. The hold can be divided into various compartments depending on how the captain sees fit to arrange his catch. The nets are stored on the planks above to dry while excess water from both drains through the holes in the the floor to the bilge. The shutters covering my speculative hatches/passageways are also speculative. The hold fits nicely (despite my best efforts to screw it up) in the hull and will be added permanently later on. Patrick, I think your work looks amazing. The close up pics could be full sized real life!. I don't have any experience in the fishing industry but in the past few weeks reading the fishing boat 'builds' on here I feel I have a much greater appreciation of the practical designs of fishing vessels and the high skill levels the crew had. All the best, Richard BobG 1 Quote Current build: U.S. Army K51 Radio Truck with K52 Trailer - 1944 - MiniArt - 1:35 Next build: PM Research Crank Shaper - late 1800s - 1:12 Part finished: HMS Flirt (MSE) - 1782 Vanguard Models - 1:64 Finished: Archer anti-tank gun Diorama - 1944 -Tamiya 1:35 : Churchill MkVII tank Diorama - Tamiya - 1:35 - 1944 : Sherman Firefly Tank Diorama - Revell - 1/76 - WWII : Humber MkII Scout Car Diorama - - Revell - 1:76 - WWII : PM Research Drill Press - 1895 - 1:12 : PM Research Milling Machine - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Engineering Lathe - late 1800s - 1:12 (est) : Stuart Beam model steam engine - 1770s onwards - 1:12 (est) : Stuart 10V model steam engine circa 1920s - 1:12 (est) : Lady Eleanor Fifie Circa 1900 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 : Dallas Cutter 1815 - Artesania Latina - 1:50
DaveBaxt Posted November 6, 2020 #48 Posted November 6, 2020 Hello and thanks for a great blog. I am a new member and new to ship modelling so forgive me if I am a bit late in adding to this blog.I am currently building my first model which is St Canute which I am about halfway through planking the hull. I am already looking at my second model and I have now been looking at the model you have built. As my model will be for static display only is it absolutely necessary to saw the boat into two halves as I can,t as yet see why this is needed if not carrying a motor. Sorry in advance of what might seem a basic question. Hope you get this as this is the only bit of the building I fear due to being new to the hobby. Quote Completed St Canute Billings Dec 2020 Completed HMS Bounty Amati May 2021 Finished Currently building HM Bark Endeavour
pwog Posted December 23, 2020 #49 Posted December 23, 2020 Beautiful! Quote Paul On the Ways: Mighty Mite, Harbor Tugboat by pwog - NautiCurso - 1:64 __________________________________________________________________ Completed Builds: Lobster Boat Red Baron (Bluejacket) Sardine Carrier Pauline (Bluejacket) Swampscott Dory (BlueJacket)
DaveBaxt Posted December 23, 2020 #50 Posted December 23, 2020 Beautiful looking fishing boat. Would you recommend this model to someone who is fairly new. Currently on my second model HMS Bounty which is also by Amati. Quote Completed St Canute Billings Dec 2020 Completed HMS Bounty Amati May 2021 Finished Currently building HM Bark Endeavour
BigDan Posted December 23, 2020 #52 Posted December 23, 2020 7 hours ago, DaveBaxt said: Beautiful looking fishing boat. Would you recommend this model to someone who is fairly new. Currently on my second model HMS Bounty which is also by Amati. If you are OK with the HMS Bounty, you will be OK with this model. Quote
PJG Posted December 30, 2020 Author #53 Posted December 30, 2020 You know you haven't been keeping up on your build when you return to find that someone else's model has taken over your log 😂😮! Not that I don't think BigDan did a great job on his Fifie (I do), I'm just not sure the middle of my build log is the right place for it. James H, Duanelaker, VTHokiEE and 1 other 3 1 Quote
Blue Ensign Posted December 30, 2020 #54 Posted December 30, 2020 It certainly confuses the issue, I did a double take when I first saw the post I thought blimey he's moved quick, he's reinstalled the hull and finished off the model.😀 It is bad manners tho' to invade another modellers log, I see James has tried to give a large hint, to which Dan seemed oblivious.🙄 B.E. James H 1 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation.
James H Posted December 30, 2020 #55 Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, PJG said: You know you haven't been keeping up on your build when you return to find that someone else's model has taken over your log 😂😮! Not that I don't think BigDan did a great job on his Fifie (I do), I'm just not sure the middle of my build log is the right place for it. 1 hour ago, Blue Ensign said: It certainly confuses the issue, I did a double take when I first saw the post I thought blimey he's moved quick, he's reinstalled the hull and finished off the model.😀 It is bad manners tho' to invade another modellers log, I see James has tried to give a large hint, to which Dan seemed oblivious.🙄 B.E. Ok, I've split those photos into a separate build log. BobG and PJG 2 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
PJG Posted December 30, 2020 Author #56 Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, James H said: Ok, I've split those photos into a separate build log. Thank you James...much appreciated 👍🙂 BobG 1 Quote
BigDan Posted December 30, 2020 #57 Posted December 30, 2020 4 hours ago, PJG said: You know you haven't been keeping up on your build when you return to find that someone else's model has taken over your log 😂😮! Not that I don't think BigDan did a great job on his Fifie (I do), I'm just not sure the middle of my build log is the right place for it. Sorry for the intrusion that got you so upset. It was my first time posting something on MSW and I hadn't figured out how it all worked. Again I apologize, I am slowly getting the hang of it. Thank you to the administrator for sorting it out by "splitting" away my post from PJG's. BobG and James H 2 Quote
James H Posted December 30, 2020 #58 Posted December 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, BigDan said: Sorry for the intrusion that got you so upset. It was my first time posting something on MSW and I hadn't figured out how it all worked. Again I apologize, I am slowly getting the hang of it. Thank you to the administrator for sorting it out by "splitting" away my post from PJG's. No worries! Your build deserves to have its own log so it can be referenced. If you've any more photos, please feel free to add to your log. BobG 1 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
PJG Posted December 30, 2020 Author #59 Posted December 30, 2020 47 minutes ago, BigDan said: Sorry for the intrusion that got you so upset. It was my first time posting something on MSW and I hadn't figured out how it all worked. Again I apologize, I am slowly getting the hang of it. Thank you to the administrator for sorting it out by "splitting" away my post from PJG's. No apology necessary Dan...there's a bit of a learning curve to using the forum that's completely understandable. As James said, your build deserves its own space and can be referenced in the proper context there. Rik Thistle and BobG 2 Quote
bebopsteve Posted December 31, 2020 #60 Posted December 31, 2020 I have a question! The spacers you used between the timberheads. Did you use extra you had or trim the kit supplied wood? Thanks!! Quote
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