DaveBaxt Posted July 15, 2023 #271 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, dunnock said: Many thanks for the compliments Dave although I find getting a realistic 'weight' to them is quite difficult. I think that the hanks and coils are definitely a work in progress David Good luck .I spent many hours trying different ways to try and mass produce them on my Bounty but still need to improve a lot. Edited July 16, 2023 by DaveBaxt dunnock 1 Quote Completed St Canute Billings Dec 2020 Completed HMS Bounty Amati May 2021 Finished Currently building HM Bark Endeavour
dunnock Posted August 24, 2023 Author #272 Posted August 24, 2023 I see that it’s been over a month since I last posted an update but there’s been a lot going on over the summer with holidays and things to do in the garden. I had two weeks on a birding trip in Brasil in the last half of July which resulted in 1500 photos to go through – making progress but still not finished. In between times I have been doing some work on Diana, mostly tidying up but after much procrastination and with full approval from my wife, I have mounted the remaining ships boats. I made a star decoration for the catheads using styrene rod and strip (with acknowledgement to B.E. for his method and description in his Pegasus blog). A pair of Chris Watton’s stern lanterns have been fitted. The lanterns are mounted on brackets formed from 1mm brass rod soldered and then blacked. Last but not least, my daughter, who has a much steadier hand than I, painted the ensign and union jack on tissue paper which I have steamed into shape and hung. The flag dimensions were taken from a copy of Flags for Ship Modellers by Alec Purves. A range of sizes is given for the period and I chose what seemed the most in proportion to the ship, that is scale 128x67mm for the ensign and 43x24mm for the jack. AotS Diana lists an ensign staff of some 35’ but I imagined this getting in the way of the boom so have raised the ensign on a halyard from the gaff. The jack staff is 15’5” or scale 73mm but this was a little short for my flag so I have increased the length to 80mm. Several repairs to rigging have had to be made owing to my clumsiness when manoeuvring the ship and I also damaged one of the stern lights. I am waiting a replacement from Vanguard Models. At the same time I have taken the opportunity of ordering my next project, HM Cutter Trial. I’m now eagerly awaiting delivery from UPS. I now need to make a display case to keep Diana safe from further damage and dust. A glass case of the required size about 1280x850x500mm is going to be very heavy and expensive so I’m planning to make one using acrylic sheet but I’m not sure what thickness of sheet to use. I was thinking 5mm but perhaps I can get away with thinner. If anyone has any experience of cases in acrylic, I be interested to hear your thoughts. I’ll write something of a conclusion on the build and post some better photos of the finished ship when I have been able to set up a suitable backdrop. In the meantime thanks to everyone who has been following this blog and for all the encouragement, help and support that you have given me over the last two and a half years. David AJohnson, DavidEN, RossR and 6 others 9 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
AJohnson Posted August 25, 2023 #273 Posted August 25, 2023 She looks magnificent David, well done! Looking forward to seeing the case. I think from the the dimensions you give the minimum thickness might need to be 5mm to avoid flex of the main side panels. I used this company for my Nisha:- www.acrylicdisplaycases.co.uk but it wouldn't be cheap for a case that big. So if you have the skills, make your own might make more sense. DaveBaxt 1 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
dunnock Posted August 25, 2023 Author #274 Posted August 25, 2023 Many thanks for your kind words Andrew. I have been looking around a bit more and I think that you are right, the case will have to be at least 5mm thick acrylic. I priced a couple of custom-made cases and they are very expensive. I made a smaller case for HM Cutter Hunter but have never tackled on of the size need for DIana. I have completed a new stand so I now have the final case dimensions and will order some sheet next week. David AJohnson 1 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
Blue Ensign Posted August 25, 2023 #275 Posted August 25, 2023 A beautiful build David, Diana was the one model I regret not building, and looking at yours that regret is magnified. I enjoyed re-reading your log a short while ago, and a wonderful job you have made of her. Well done.👏 B.E. AJohnson and dunnock 2 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation.
Ronald-V Posted August 25, 2023 #276 Posted August 25, 2023 That is a fantastic build! Love the colors you used. AJohnson 1 Quote Currently working on the HMS Sphinx from Vanguard Models
DaveBaxt Posted August 25, 2023 #277 Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, dunnock said: Many thanks for your kind words Andrew. I have been looking around a bit more and I think that you are right, the case will have to be at least 5mm thick acrylic. I priced a couple of custom-made cases and they are very expensive. I made a smaller case for HM Cutter Hunter but have never tackled on of the size need for DIana. I have completed a new stand so I now have the final case dimensions and will order some sheet next week. David A question if I may. Is the weight of perhaps the cheaper option of glass too heavy? dunnock 1 Quote Completed St Canute Billings Dec 2020 Completed HMS Bounty Amati May 2021 Finished Currently building HM Bark Endeavour
allanyed Posted August 25, 2023 #278 Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) Love the ship's boats, especially that you appropriately showed both single banked and double banked construction. Too often instructions incorrectly call for double banked design even on the small boats. Allan Edited August 25, 2023 by allanyed dunnock 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
dunnock Posted August 25, 2023 Author #279 Posted August 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Blue Ensign said: A beautiful build David, Diana was the one model I regret not building, and looking at yours that regret is magnified. I enjoyed re-reading your log a short while ago, and a wonderful job you have made of her. Thank you very much B.E. but however good it may be is no small part due to your inspiration and the many tips and techniques that I've picked up from your logs and particularly from Pegasus. Blue Ensign 1 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
dunnock Posted August 25, 2023 Author #280 Posted August 25, 2023 Mugje, Thanks very much. I particularly like the Tamiya Blue even if it's not that easy to apply. Once again many thanks Andrew. I had a good start on the boats by using Vanguard's kits and modified them according to The AotS DIana David Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
dunnock Posted August 25, 2023 Author #281 Posted August 25, 2023 Quote 5 hours ago, DaveBaxt said: A question if I may. Is the weight of perhaps the cheaper option of glass too heavy? Dave, My understanding is that glass would be heavier even if I might be able to use thinner sheets. The density of glass is about twice that of acrylic sheet. Also I would be quite nervous of handling the size of glass sheet I need. David Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
DaveBaxt Posted August 25, 2023 #282 Posted August 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, dunnock said: Dave, My understanding is that glass would be heavier even if I might be able to use thinner sheets. The density of glass is about twice that of acrylic sheet. Also I would be quite nervous of handling the size of glass sheet I need. David Very good points David CiscoH and dunnock 2 Quote Completed St Canute Billings Dec 2020 Completed HMS Bounty Amati May 2021 Finished Currently building HM Bark Endeavour
dunnock Posted August 28, 2023 Author #283 Posted August 28, 2023 Thanks again for all the likes and generous comments. Diana is the biggest and most complicated ship that I have built but I've really enjoyed the challenges that it presented. Although it took a lot of time and some hair pulling, I'm glad that I went with the open rails on the quarter deck and my thanks go to Ray and Robdurant for showing me the way. Also my thanks to the many others on these forums that have posted tips, help and advice that I have shamelessly copied. I've managed to take some better photos of the finished model which I've added below. I hope I haven't overdone it! Thanks all for looking in. I hope to see you again on my log of HM Cutter Trial David chris watton, Thukydides, Knocklouder and 16 others 10 9 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
ccoyle Posted August 28, 2023 #284 Posted August 28, 2023 Stunning! A model to be truly proud of. Knocklouder, AJohnson and dunnock 3 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Ronald-V Posted August 28, 2023 #285 Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) Really beautiful!! Edited August 28, 2023 by mugje AJohnson, dunnock and Knocklouder 3 Quote Currently working on the HMS Sphinx from Vanguard Models
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted August 28, 2023 #286 Posted August 28, 2023 beautiful work. very nice. AJohnson and Knocklouder 2 Quote
RossR Posted August 28, 2023 #287 Posted August 28, 2023 Great job. I followed your build closely and as someone still new to modeling, your craftsmanship is a standard I hope to achieve someday. Well done. AJohnson 1 Quote Completed Build: HMS Beagle - Occre Current Builds: Frigate Diana - Occre https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33530-frigate-diana-by-rossr-occre-185/ Santisima Trinidad - Occre - Cross Section https://modelshipworld.com/topic/37130-santisima-trinidad-by-rossr-occre-190-cross-section/ On the Shelf: NRG Half Hull, the US Brig Syren - Model Shipways and USF Essex - Model Shipways
DavidEN Posted August 29, 2023 #288 Posted August 29, 2023 Congratulations on finishing your excellent build David. The additional details that you have introduced really lift the model to the next level. Regards, David AJohnson 1 Quote
HardeeHarHar Posted August 29, 2023 #289 Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) Great work! It is quite stunning indeed! Thanks for sharing so much useful information while building her too!!! Edited August 29, 2023 by HardeeHarHar AJohnson 1 Quote Brian Current Builds: HMBV Granado 1/64 Caldercraft; HMS Sphinx 1775 by HardeeHarHar - Vanguard Models 1:64-V2 Completed Build: HMS Bounty's Jolly Boat 1/25 Artesania Latina; Master Korabel - 1:36 Yefin Nikonov's Secret Vessel On the Shelf: HMBV Granado 1/48 CAF Model
dunnock Posted December 11, 2023 Author #290 Posted December 11, 2023 I have finally got Diana settled in her new home. I was planning to make a case out of acrylic sheet but I found a local supplier of aquariums who was prepared to make a case. The cost was about the same as I could have bought the acrylic sheet so there was nothing to think about really Jungle Pets of Buxton, Derbyshire (junglepets.co.uk) made the case in 6mm glass and delivered it a while ago but I have been waiting for a piece of furniture on which to place it. This was delivered earlier in the week. With me in the role of supervisor, my daughter and partner – much younger, fitter and stronger than me, manoeuvred the case into position over the ship and onto the baseboard without mishap. We breathed a sigh of relief. I guess this is really the end of the Story of Diana for me. Thanks again to all those who have followed, commented and given advice David Matt D, AJohnson, KARAVOKIRIS and 12 others 10 5 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
DaveBaxt Posted December 11, 2023 #291 Posted December 11, 2023 She looks absolutely fantastic in her new home and what a feature to have in any room, although it will need to be quite large. Haha You must be very proud so take a bow David. I will definitely be looking at alternatives to acrylic as although it is lightweight it is also very expensive. dunnock, AJohnson and Craigie65 3 Quote Completed St Canute Billings Dec 2020 Completed HMS Bounty Amati May 2021 Finished Currently building HM Bark Endeavour
ccoyle Posted December 11, 2023 #292 Posted December 11, 2023 Now there's a conversation starter, to be sure! AJohnson and DaveBaxt 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
HardeeHarHar Posted December 11, 2023 #293 Posted December 11, 2023 Beautiful work and quite a statement piece to have in a home. I hope you take lots of time to just admire your excellent work. DaveBaxt, dunnock and AJohnson 3 Quote Brian Current Builds: HMBV Granado 1/64 Caldercraft; HMS Sphinx 1775 by HardeeHarHar - Vanguard Models 1:64-V2 Completed Build: HMS Bounty's Jolly Boat 1/25 Artesania Latina; Master Korabel - 1:36 Yefin Nikonov's Secret Vessel On the Shelf: HMBV Granado 1/48 CAF Model
DavidEN Posted December 12, 2023 #294 Posted December 12, 2023 Well done David. It is an impressive addition to the room. I like the way you have incorporated your reference books into the display. Your build log has proved very to me as it has to others I am sure. Regards, David AJohnson and DaveBaxt 2 Quote
dunnock Posted December 12, 2023 Author #295 Posted December 12, 2023 22 hours ago, DaveBaxt said: She looks absolutely fantastic in her new home and what a feature to have in any room, although it will need to be quite large. Haha You must be very proud so take a bow David. I will definitely be looking at alternatives to acrylic as although it is lightweight it is also very expensive. Thank you Dave. I was seriously considering making my own from acrylic sheet but since this company could make one in glass for a similar price to buying the acrylic and much cheaper than any other case supplier I had found, I decide to go with it. When it arrived, the case looked enormous but the overall look is diminished on the model and although it takes up a fair bit of wall space and we moved a sofa upstairs to accommodate it, it sits quite nicely in the room. Even my better half is now happy but I'm now closely questioned about where future ships might go. 😊 18 hours ago, HardeeHarHar said: Beautiful work and quite a statement piece to have in a home. I hope you take lots of time to just admire your excellent work. Thanks Brian. I have to walk past it every day to enter 'the shipyard' ..... and thanks Chris and David to for your kind comments and to all others for the likes you have posted. David DaveBaxt and AJohnson 2 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
AJohnson Posted December 12, 2023 #296 Posted December 12, 2023 That looks very nice David, a real centre piece for your room. DaveBaxt and dunnock 2 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
Thukydides Posted December 12, 2023 #297 Posted December 12, 2023 Fantastic, she looks really nice. AJohnson and DaveBaxt 2 Quote Current Builds: HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models)
dunnock Posted December 13, 2023 Author #298 Posted December 13, 2023 Thanks Andrew and Thukydides. Your complements are much appreciated. David AJohnson 1 Quote David Previous Builds HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74 Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64 HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64 HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64 HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 Current Build HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64
Beef Wellington Posted January 12 #299 Posted January 12 Hi David, so pleased to see you have completed her, unfortunately I've not been 'around' for a bit so missed the last steps in real time. Congratulations! You have created a truly spectacular model, and I have greatly enjoyed following your build from the start and learning with you, one of the great fellowship of Diana builders 🙂 I look forward to catching up with your future builds! All the best, Jason dunnock and AJohnson 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
Blue Ensign Posted January 12 #300 Posted January 12 A fitting presentation, to complete a great build, well done David. B.E. AJohnson and dunnock 2 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation.
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