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Hi Bug

 

Welcome to the club.

 

A few weeks ago a halogen  lamp, provisionally fixed at a shelf, wanted to brake free and fell onto my build. Bellerophon himself had his arm broken and a cathead was dislocated. Fortunately all could be fixed with a few harsh words and some epoxy glue. Replacing a whole wheel however seems much worse.

 

Gravity sucks.

 

Truly great swivel guns, btw!

 

Cheers

Peter

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12 minutes ago, flyer said:

Gravity sucks.

 

   Hehe, thanks Peter.  I've definitely snapped a mast top or stanchion off on occasion by being a little abrupt and snagging something, but this is my first gravity-associated disaster.   The wheel was definitely a chore.  I'm glad Bellerophon's arm was successfully mended - a little physical therapy and I'm sure he was good as new.

 

 

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      Like most of the other things I've put together, the quarter rail is patterned after Dan's version of the FFM.  I used Walnut to match the darker shade of the crosstrees etc. I made a conscious early choice to only paint some of the fittings (rather than cover everything in red & black) so that the details of the furniture and other elements would come through.  Black masks so much of that.  I was hesitant about that choice early on, because of course very little painting means very little opportunity to cover flaws.  But, it seems to be panning out pretty well thus far. 

 

       The stanchions for the quarter rail are made from a 1mm brass rod turned and shaved down to create a thin post with a thicker base. The cradle for the top is  a 1mm brass strip cut & soldered on.  

 

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   The 'curvy' end of the railing is drawn out and cut from a 10mm x 10mm walnut chunk on scroll saw. Lots of shaping and sanding to get the curvature first, then the chunk is cut down the middle with the table saw.  I did it this way so I had a better chance of getting the two railing ends to look identical. 

 

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  A little more shaping to do after it's lined up so that the railing and the end match up, then the whole thing is mounted and given a coat of tung oil. 

 

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   I fully intended to use Chris' precut channels from the kit - they look nice and obviously are shaped and sized properly.  I even stained them so that would blend a little better without being painted and added the pins and rings.

 

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Then... I over sanded one trying to get it to fit snuggly against my larger-than-the-kit main wales.  Totally screwed up the shape and made it too thin.  So, I had to make all the channels from scratch so they'd match.  Silver lining is that I got to make them out of walnut, which better matches my other pieces and overall scheme.

 

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  Another important addition are the knees to mount the channels - also out of walnut. Rather than mount the channels first and then the drift rails like a normal person - I did the drift rails first, so I went through and notched them all out to fit the knees. 

 

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      I'll throw on a coat of tung oil to get the coloring to match the rails, and other fittings, then on to the decorations/frieze along the hull.  I've had to wait on those because I've added a bunch of things that would be in the way of them.  Also - my sheer strake is patterned after the FFM and quite a bit thicker than the kit version - which limits the area for the frieze.  Much like the transom, I'll have to add the frieze in bits and pieces. 

 

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    So this is the time where I actually DID look far enough ahead - the frieze work.  I knew along the way that I done a number of things that would directly affect how I applied the kit's photo etched decorations. I did debate heavily whether or not I should just paint them on. Fun fact - I actually dabble a bit with painting; here's a piece I did for my home office:

 

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   That said - I'm actually not that great at THIS kind of painting, so I decided to keep the PE stuff.  Anyway - a bit of a tangent.  Along with adding knees to the channels, I also used a wider sheer strake that blends into the hull at the fore of the ship.  This in particular then changed the placement of the drift rails, etc.  Finally my drift (and other) rails and decorations are a differing size than the kit. 

     To get the PE stuff to look moderately accurate, I painted a couple coats of air brushed white then yellow ochre to give it some depth. Then I followed the basic pattern of what decorations went where.  There was NO space above the gun ports, so those bits were eliminated altogether and I filled in the rest leaving gaps for the fenders, steps, and chesstrees.  

 

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   To finish off the frieze work, I went through (as advertised in some of the tips & tutorials here) and touched up the bottoms with this cool gold color from Army Painter, then the top highlights with a much lightened mixture of white and yellow ochre.  Topped off with a coat of WOP that's brushed on then brushed off (which is why it looks a little glossy). 

 

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Nice paint work. However those friezes are done I know from my Pegasus they require meticulous work and steady hands - you've done a really nice job of it.

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: HMS Winchelsea
Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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1 hour ago, glbarlow said:

However those friezes are done I know from my Pegasus they require meticulous work and steady hands - you've done a really nice job of it.

 

   Thanks a lot Glenn.  Definitely took some magnification, a very small brush, and lots of patience.  Also - a fair amount of wiping off bits with a wet cue tip and "do overs".  😛 

    Btw - your Winny planking is looking fantastic. 

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   Did some work on the outer hull fixtures during the week.  See - the thing is - I thought these would be pretty straightforward, and they turned out to be pretty fiddly.  Here's what I'm learning as I pattern much of work after Dan's Vulture - that stuff looks pretty complicated at 1/48 - then I try to replicated it at 1/64 and it's just madness.   Alas - I'll keep plugging away; but I'm definitely going to have to start determining what's just unfeasible at the smaller scale.

 

  The steps are made from two separate pieces of boxwood fit together to create the decorative element. The smaller of the two pieces is cut with a scraper then glued to the 'step' portion. Each step is mounted to the side of the hull with the middle one cut out to provide for the sweep

port opening next to the gunport.  I couldn't quite figure out what to do about the rail that runs through the gun port, so I just removed it and replaced it with the step. The bottom two are painted black to match the main wales.

 

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The fenders (already mounted in the picture above) actually were pretty straightforward - a couple strips of boxwood scraped for decoration and fitted. I did have to move the frieze around to accommodate.  

 

The chesstrees were very sketchy. I really wanted to just do a faux sheave, but it would not have looked that great. So I gave it my best shot the same way I did with the catheads. Much less space to work with however. Mounted up just aft of the fixed block.

 

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         As a side note - the last image is a good example of how I often focus stack my images.  I use a couple different lenses - one is pure macro (100mm f2.8) and one is a short zoom with a little more flexibility.  But if you're able to focus stack, it's pretty helpful.  There's a good discussion about it here in the forum: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

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Great details, as always.

 

Just a little remark: Those openings are actually sweep ports. It's hard to imagine what a nightmare it must have been to move such a ship by sweeps, especially with hardly enough room on the deck to operate them. But even HMS Pandora 1779 had sweep ports. And she had about 524 tons to move against the Swan class' 300.

 

The bomb vessel Granado 1742 measured about 270 tons and (according to the respective AOTS book) stowed 18 sweeps (plus 6 spare), each with a length of about 10m or 33ft. Good luck for finding a place to store them!

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@flyer - you’re right of course.  If you notice the chestree, it comes down just short of fouling the scupper. Having just finished mounting that before posting, I definitely had that on my brain whilst typing.

   Thanks for pointing that out - I’ll go back and make the edit. 

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    I spent much of the weekend working on the forecastle railings and the quarterdeck breastwork.  It's a fun endeavor and I'd been looking forward to this and testing my skillset patterning the work after the FFM and the other builds to which I most commonly refer.  I'll preface by saying the railings and products that are supplied by Chris' kit are just fine in this regard - however, I'd already committed myself to using walnut for the other railings, bitts, crossbeams, etc.  Once again, since I'm being sparse with paint, I want everything to match - or at least compliment.  

     Unfortunately, we know that walnut - though prevalent in my wood pile - is not the densest wood for carving, but it is pretty malleable for shaping, etc. They'll be two separate posts here, but I essentially worked on the forecastle and quarterdeck railings simultaneously, as both required turning the stanchions on the lathe and create the sheaves. 

  

     I started with the spar rack, just a couple of pieces cut with a jig saw then sanded and shaped to fit the height of the Belfry stanchions just below the cleats. They're the same width as the rails with the inside post shaped to fit snug against the belfry and the outside serving as a base for the railing.

 

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Stanchions are turned on the lathe with a little bit of decorative element.  I had to keep it pretty simple because the walnut has a tendency to flake of course. I included the first picture because it took me several experiments using a variety of options  before I found what worked for me and didn't either flake off the post or snap it completely.  My rather cheap carving tools are regularly sharpened on the belt sander before I use them.  Essentially I use a file to get started, the carving tools to shape, and then a sanding stick to smooth out the edges.

 

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    For the record - I had totally convinced myself that it was fine to just make faux sheaves here, especially since they're under railings and difficult to see. Then - for whatever masochistic reason - I decided that I should go ahead and make sheaves; which as you might imagine is completely torturous at 1/64.  And yes - I am totally convinced this is going to bite me in the a** when it comes time to actually try and rig the thing.  But, in the meantime, I think they look pretty good.

 

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     For the forecastle, I took Mr. Vadas' idea of splitting the railing itself into two pieces to facilitate mounting it with the stanchions. This worked well, but required lots and lots of patient bit-at-a-time sanding to get everything line up properly and fit snug. You'll see later that I took a different (and ultimately more tedious approach) on the quarterdeck breast work.

     Stanchions and railings are mounted after a lot of test fitting and tiny adjustments with a sanding stick. Then everything is sanded smooth to get as tight of a fitting as possible.  Still a couple little gaps that will get masked with the finish. 

 

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  Once permanently mounted, a coat of tung oil is applied to match it up to the other walnut pieces.

 

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Fantastic detail work, Bug, and those sheaves...😲!

Bob Garcia

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Thanks Bob - wait until the next post - quarterdeck breast work stanchions are DOUBLE sheaved...  🤦🏼‍♂️

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  The breastwork on the quarterdeck is pretty similar in terms of how it's accomplished.  First step is to turn the stanchions on the lathe. The tricky part (as I mentioned) is that these are double sheaved instead of single singled.  I'll tell you, at 1/64 that's a real bear. The actual metal sheave needs to be so thin (less than .5mm) that there was just no real way I could notch it small enough - so I gave up on that and settled for just having the ring in the slot - so to speak.  Creating the slot started with drilling holes in line, then picking them out gently with a #11 scalpel as much as I could.  Next, I shaved down my smallest needle file to almost paper thin so that the grooves were only on one side and one edge.  Finally, I gently filed out each groove a tiny bit at a time.  

 

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    The sheaves are cut from a 2mm metal tube filed down on each side until they fit into the slot.  The slot determined the size of the ring, not the other way around. File - test fit - file - test fit, etc.  Here's a progression of what that looked like.  Each stanchion took almost 90 minutes to get cut and grooved out. Sorry, the focus isn't great on these two.  Probably because I was cross-eyed from filing out the grooves.

 

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  I took a different approach for the railing this time - instead of two pieces, I measured out a single piece with about .5mm overlap on each side of the stanchion and cut square holes to fit - starting with drilling out a hole then filing with a square edge needle file.  This took much longer than the 'two piece' method, but eliminated the very slight line you can see in the forecastle railing. The edges of the railings were scraped for a little decoration.

 

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  Gluing it all together was a trick.  And yes - I noticed the middle stanchion was crooked upon taking the photo (ah, the joys of macro) and fixed it.

The railing is mounted on the deck and follows the shape of the deck.  Good thing I had to fix that middle stanchion, because after the railing is placed on the deck, the bottom rail sits a fraction higher on the middle post. It was helpful to dampen the railings as I fit it to the deck - even so I was anxiously anticipating the whole thing to crack as I bent it.  I also added a pin in the middle stanchion as I affixed it to the deck to hold the structure it in place while I clamped it down.

 

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   The railings are extended to the gangways with two more stanchions and extended railings with an "S" curve to them. The stanchions are turned on the lathe with a little round newel post top. The railings are cut from a single block of Walnut. I cut them out with the jigsaw together to ensure that they mirror one another, then after the shape is sanded I split them into two railings on the Byrnes saw.

 

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    From there it's the fit-sand-fit process until it's snug. After everything is fitted and glued, the edges are all gently sanded and smoothed out and the whole thing is given the Tung oil treatment. Overall, I'm pretty stoked with how this turned out - especially at 1/64. The FFM shows an additional decorative metal piece that connects the upper railing to the gangway railing - however, if we remember; my drop to the gangway is an an extra step because of the thickness of my Swiss Pear decks - so that extra metal piece just looked funky and out of place.  I fit "Lawnmower Man" for scale, and it all looked functional, safe, and viable - so I left it well enough alone.

 

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You are certainly doing a lot of nice custom work on this model, all exacting and well done!

Regards,

Glenn

 

Current Build: HMS Winchelsea
Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter CheerfulLady NelsonAmati HMS Vanguard,  
HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose

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Really amazing work at that scale, Bug. I'm beginning to think that everyone who ever builds the Pegasus from this point on will be swimming in your wake! You're setting the bar very high!

Bob Garcia

"Measure once, cuss twice!"

 

Current Builds: 

Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models

Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28

 

Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. 

Member of the Nautical Research Guild

 

 

 

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Thanks everyone for the likes and kind words - REALLY appreciate the encouragement and motivation. 

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Under the “re-do” column:

 

The photos of the breastwork

pointed out some things I didn’t like about my cistern pumps. They were made early in the build before I upped my blackening game - and had a fair amount of paint touch ups, etc.

    Though they were “alright” they started bugging me like the stove vent: So  - risking much peril - I spent a few hours yesterday and completely pulled them out, sanded down all the metal parts, re-soldered some, and re-blackened all the brass including the brackets and stops. 

    
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 There aren't a lot of pictures of the making of the forecastle railings - which belies just how difficult and fiddly these little buggers were.  I had some really specific in mind for these ever since I saw Dan's version from the FFM.  I wanted the same stanchions, but once again I really dig the little bit of coiled wire that I have and used for the hatch railings.  Now as far as accuracy is concerned; it definitely falls into Category #2 under my previously explained decision tree: "Not 100% accurate, but looks cool."

     

 Stanchions first. I cut fourteen 1mm tubes and twenty eight 2mm tubes (two for each stanchion). The 1 mm tubes will insert into the 2mm tubes to create the wider portion at the bottom that then plugs into the railing. Another 2mm tube is soldered to the top of the stanchion as the eye through which the cable will pass. The top tube is soldered on larger, then filed down to be almost even with the stanchion, after which everything is blackened.

    Note:  Trying to hold these things in place to be soldered took some ingenuity, extra clamp hands, and locking needle tweezers. During this process, more than a couple of these little escape artists went flinging across the room never to be seen again.

 

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   I soldered a ring on one end of the cable and an eye bolt onto the other end.  Here was a trick - I wanted to make sure all the stanchions lined up properly in terms of height, distance, etc - and then make sure the cable was the exact right length.  I couldn't just cut and tie it like a rope, so I had to pass the cable through the stanchions after they were mounted, measure the distance of the cable, then solder the eye bolt on the end of the cable while it was on the ship.   Obviously paranoid about burning the ship up in a giant ball of polyurethane and wood flames, I used a piece of metal to block off everything that wasn't being soldered.  Very tense process - wish I'd have been able to take a photo of it whilst I was doing it.

 

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The bow end of the railing is seized just as though it were a rope, and the waist end of the cable is mounted into the railing with the eyebolt.

 

 

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  Once again in the "joys of macro photography" category:  is everyone else's ship THIS dusty?   It's kinda yucky seeing every little grain of dust.  I mean, I try to tidy up pretty often...

 

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Remarkable soldering on those tiny brass pieces, Bug! I need to learn to silver soldering.

 

 

Bob Garcia

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Current Builds: 

Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models

Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28

 

Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. 

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Thanks for the likes, etc - and the comments Grant and Bob!
 

 

2 hours ago, BobG said:

I need to learn to silver soldering

 

Thanks Bob - Basically just trial and error playing around with which solder paste works best with which type of metal - then practicing when to let off the flame.  

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  Decided to forego any "real" work on Peg today, and spent a couple hours going through the plans and starting a blackening assembly line for all the photo etched parts I'd likely end up using - along with some pins and assorted odds & ends. 

 

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     Hello everyone.  I did not fall off the face of the earth - only to Mexico for holiday with the admiral.  One day she got fed up with her work (we both work from home at the moment (Covid rules apply) as well as the cold Colorado winter and rather spontaneously booked a trip to a resort in Yucatan.  Who was I to argue?   I'm an anthropologist so I was happy to finally see one of the "new" seven wonders of the world - Chichen Itza, and I'm also a golfer so I got to play a round at the Riviera Maya PGA course.  

 

     Meanwhile, while we were away - the ubiquitous and certainly infamous Amati Crew arrived, so I painted those fellas up and mounted them on small bases made from a leftover hard plastic container.  Except for climber-guy of course.  I've never considered myself very adept at painting by hand (which is why I airbrush so many things), but I like the way these guys turned out. Just for fun I tried to give them a little extra realism by adjusting their skin tone depending on their job and exposure to the sun - ranging from the pasty white Cap'n to the super tan fellas.  

 

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  Thanks B.E., appreciate it.  They're definitely a lot small than one realizes.  

  

43 minutes ago, Blue Ensign said:

My Capt. Grim looks like an extra from 'Fear the Walking Dead'

 

  Ha!   Too funny.  Than again, Capt. Grim has been around a long time - I'm sure we can forgive if he perhaps has not aged gracefully...   :)

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   A keen observer to this log may have noticed over the last couple of months that I've done a lot around the bow of the ship but have not addressed the head works. That's because the head works scares the crap out of me.  One of the most delicate areas of the ship to put together, but also the most visible.  Yikes.

    That said - it's now where I'm at and there can be no more avoiding.  I've noodled through what I'd like to do here, and it'll be a based in the plans to start, but then I'll fill in the grating, seats of ease, and other elements not included in the Peg plans. Also, I'm still finalizing what gets painted and what doesn't; so when I combine that with the delicacy and added elements, I'm going to do most of the railings, etc with boxwood. I'll pattern them after the precut pieces but shape them to fit as I go.  The boxwood should make it much easier to shape the small pieces and allow me to add some minor decorative carving. In fact - I already snapped off part of one of the very delicate main rails just lining it up to test fitting and size.

   I started with the three timbers, cutting out the pattern from the plans and shaping them in walnut so they're a bit sturdier. I want to slim then down and reshape them a bit so they look (hopefully) more graceful as it comes together.  The plans not only look a little thick, but I want a more gentle curve as they work their way up to the rails. 

    As you can see in the third picture, there is still some shaping to be done, but here they are placed in position so I can measure the angles and cut some cheeks.

 

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  As a total side note - the bow doesn't look as wonky and askew in person as it does in that second picture.  I focus stacked four different pictures so the timbers would be all in focus and sometimes when Photoshop "auto blends" the layers the rest of the photo can come out looking a little odd if you don't use a tripod (which I didn't). 

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