Rolls-Royce 1920 Pattern Armoured Car by King Derelict - Roden - 1/72

[mtaylor]

Interesting stuff there, Alan.   More than a few archiologist types have always said that there's truth in those legends of old.  The problem is finding them.  So it's very possible that fabled city existed but trick to be to find out where.   It's also possible (likely?) it's where it's described as, but buried deep in the sand.

[king derelict]

22 hours ago, mtaylor said:

Interesting stuff there, Alan.   More than a few archiologist types have always said that there's truth in those legends of old.  The problem is finding them.  So it's very possible that fabled city existed but trick to be to find out where.   It's also possible (likely?) it's where it's described as, but buried deep in the sand.

Thanks Mark. The Sahara is a huge place too. The area around the mountain is a maze of gullies and canyons. I doubt they have ever been fully explored in detail. Stuff keeps turning up out there like the P40 found in 2012 in Egypt. That was sitting on rocky desert so not even buried. 

In ancient times the area around the mountain wasn't desert. The cave paintings  show lions, giraffes and elephants so it was probably savannah like Botswana or Kenya maybe. The ancient Egyptians got ivory and gold from somewhere and a very old trade route is evident leading south towards the mountain. Curiously gold has been discovered (or rediscovered?) in the last ten years very close to the mountain. So maybe a city is buried there somewhere. Its an interesting environment. It fascinates me that you can pick up an expended AK47 cartridge sitting on the desert floor next to a piece of prehistoric pottery or a stone tool.

Alan

[king derelict]

Back on topic today.

Yesterday I was playing around to see if I could make convincing representation of the sand that gathers on surfaces not blown clear by travel. I made a mix of PVA glue and water which I painted onto the areas I thought sand would be found. Then I added a spoonful of the dust from sanding the ceramic bricks used in the Aedes Ars models which was sitting around. I tapped the surplus off and dusted off any remaining excess with a stiff paintbrush. I like the effect; its a bit more three dimensional than just using paint but I think its easy to get a bit too wild with it.

The tarped load was placed properly in the load bed and then the wheels were added. I was excited to find all four touched the ground. I gave the whole model a coat of matte coat.

The 1/8 inch square styrene rod arrived today and I started making the flimsies again. Hopefully these will be better than the first attempt.

 

 

 

 

 

I like this model enough that I ordered the 1/35 scale version from Roden to see how that builds up.

 

Thanks for looking in

 

Alan

 

[Canute]

Great idea with the ground up ceramic for desert sand. The car looks very good.👍

[king derelict]

Thank you very much Ken

I need to a better job with the lighting for the photographs. I realise that some of the pictures make it look like I have used a green and sand camouflage

Alan

[Old Collingwood]

I love It Alan  - really really nice.

 

OC.

[lmagna]

On 12/18/2021 at 5:00 PM, king derelict said:

I can't make up my mind whether I like the tarped load in the load bed.

I have no real idea on tarp or not to tarp, but my thinking goes along the lines the the "truck bed" of these vehicles was more for personal gear of the crew and the afore mentioned gas, (Petrol?) cans that were left scattered all over. Maybe an ammo box or two lashed in place. No real room for much in the way of cargo.

 

I agree with the no rust policy. It takes years for stuff to rust up in the desert. 

Edited December 21, 2021 by lmagna

[king derelict]

18 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

I love It Alan  - really really nice.

 

OC.

Thank you OC. I really like this subject and the model is quite good. The 1/35 scale version just turned up and that does look very good.

Alan

[king derelict]

16 hours ago, lmagna said:

I have no real idea on tarp or not to tarp, but my thinking goes along the lines the the "truck bed" of these vehicles was more for personal gear of the crew and the afore mentioned gas, (Petrol?) cans that were left scattered all over. Maybe an ammo box or two lashed in place. No real room for much in the way of cargo.

 

I agree with the no rust policy. It takes years for stuff to rust up in the desert. 

Thank you Lou.

Yes, I was thinking that the lockers on the side of the truck bed would hold some supplies but ropes, personal kit etc might be under that tarp. Bed rolls if it was a multi-day patrol.

Alan

[king derelict]

A tiny update. I am making the flimsies for the car. I took a length of 1/8 square styrene rod and rounded the edges slightly to make the individual cans more apparent. I cut four 5 mm pieces and glued them together. I created the appearance of the lids by pressing the tip of a hypodermic needle into teh tops. Its a little out of scale but it was the smallest size I have and its not in quite the right place but any closer to teh edge and it distorts the plastic. I think it will look okay under some dust. A plain top just leaves it as a box

After priming with black primer I painted the strip with metal paint and gave it a black wash to delineate the individual cans better

 

Next I will add some dust but first I had a diorama to finish - not a desert one this time

 

 

I hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas and a safe and prosperous New Year

 

Alan

[mtaylor]

The cans look great and so does your "other" diorama.  

 

Have a great holiday.

[Canute]

Nice work on the tins and you "other" diorama, Alan. 👍😁

[popeye the sailor]

great job all around!  there would be no real rust......but there would be tarnish.  you copied that well for the cans    the cake came out 'sweet' as well  

[king derelict]

17 hours ago, mtaylor said:

The cans look great and so does your "other" diorama.  

 

Have a great holiday.

Thank you very much Mark

Witha third of a bottle of brandy in it; I'm hoping the edible diorama tastes good

Happy Christmas

Alan

[king derelict]

5 hours ago, Canute said:

Nice work on the tins and you "other" diorama, Alan. 👍😁

Thank you Ken

I'm looking forward to trying the edible diorama

Happy Christmas

Alan

 

[king derelict]

3 hours ago, popeye the sailor said:

great job all around!  there would be no real rust......but there would be tarnish.  you copied that well for the cans    the cake came out 'sweet' as well  

Thank you very much Popeye

I look forward to tasting the cake

Happy Christmas

Alan

[king derelict]

The fuel cans were dulled a little and added to the back of the car. I added a bit more replica sand around the cans and I think this one is finished.

The 200 error nailed one of the photos - funny how it picks on one image and even if it is edited, renamed  reimported and it still kicks it out.

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for all the support, kind and helpful comments. I hope it has been interesting.

I hope you all have a great Christmas

Alan

[mtaylor]

Have a look at the last post in this topic.   The Admins are trying to resolve the photo issue.

[king derelict]

Just now, mtaylor said:

Have a look at the last post in this topic.   The Admins are trying to resolve the photo issue.

Thanks Mark

I read the thread. It will be interesting to see what is going on - though doubtless it will be unintelligible to me.

[Baker]

Great work 👍and a tasty diorama 😉

[Egilman]

Love the sand base nice work replicating the mostly rocky crust.... Really looks the part...

[lmagna]

On 12/23/2021 at 4:14 PM, king derelict said:

not a desert one this time

Does that mean that it is of the dessert kind?

[Landlubber Mike]

Looks great Alan!  

[king derelict]

On 12/24/2021 at 6:15 PM, Backer said:

Great work 👍and a tasty diorama 😉

Thanks Patrick

I really enjoyed building the car - and helping to eat the cake

Alan

[king derelict]

On 12/25/2021 at 1:18 AM, Egilman said:

Love the sand base nice work replicating the mostly rocky crust.... Really looks the part...

Thank Egilman. That ceramic brick dust keeps coming in handy

Alan

[king derelict]

On 12/26/2021 at 4:27 AM, lmagna said:

Does that mean that it is of the dessert kind?

A diorama you can enjoy with a glass of wine😄

Alan

[king derelict]

On 12/26/2021 at 1:17 PM, Landlubber Mike said:

Looks great Alan!  

Thanks Mike

This has been a lot of fun

Alan

[Ghosthunter]

Love the finished car but I would put some squadron or division markings on the sides somewhere.

[king derelict]

1 hour ago, Ghosthunter said:

Love the finished car but I would put some squadron or division markings on the sides somewhere.

Thanks for the kind comment and the input. So far I haven't found any photos showing how the SDF marked their cars. I have thought of using the ID numbers provided in the kit and then part obscuring them with sand and dust.

Alan

[Egilman]

4 hours ago, king derelict said:

So far I haven't found any photos showing how the SDF marked their cars. I have thought of using the ID numbers provided in the kit and then part obscuring them with sand and dust.

Neither have I Alan, I suspect they didn't mark them for some reason probably cause they weren't used in mass formation so they really didn't need it... (most military vehicle markings were for unit identification on the battlefield.... Using the kit supplied markings would be a non-sequitur for an SDF vehicle....