king derelict Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share #61 Posted February 17, 2022 I finished the PE on the fantail. It went quite well the PE is very nice to work with. My Gators Grip is almost out so I had bought a bottle of the Mig Ultra Glue to see how it behaves. It seems very similar to the Gators Grip which is good to know. I then moved onto the catwalks and spent the rest of the day trying to put together the aft starboard section behind the elevator. There are two main pieces plus three pieces of railing. The PE instructions really don't provide a good visualisation of how the pieces go together and then install on the hull. Especially the relationship between PE piece #2 and piece #37 Luckily I was able to find the detail in one of the photos I may be a bit challenged but that was not how i interpreted the instructions. I was able to dismantle my effort and remake the catwalk. The photo also shows that the ordinance dump chute seen in the above photo (the right hand one) doesn't exist in the real ship in 2013 so I'll have to clip that off and check if all the others are really there. I also did a fit check with the elevators in the raised position and found they didn't quite fit in the space in the deck. I was able to remove a small amount of material from the sides of the elevator and the rails on the hull and get a good fit. A lucky catch before the hull gets all delicate. The PE catwalk build up is going to take a while to work round the hull and as usual the photos show up some faults to correct Thanks for looking in Alan mtaylor, Roger Pellett, ccoyle and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted February 17, 2022 Share #62 Posted February 17, 2022 Very nice work Alan - keeping it true to the real ship and sharp modeling mate. OC. mtaylor, mikegr, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share #63 Posted February 18, 2022 Thank you kindly OC. The research is saving me from some stupid mistakes - and I see a lot of small details to add or change. I still think Hobby Boss did a decent job of the kit. Alan Canute, mtaylor and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share #64 Posted February 18, 2022 I woke up this morning and realised that the aft catwalk is still wrong. The catwalks generally extend out from the edge of the flight deck and its usually not possible to fall off the edge of the flight deck and get your feet wet without at least bouncing off the catwalk. I dismantled the efforts of yesterday. I was lucky the thicker PE came off without any damage or distortion. I don't think I would have got away with this with Flyhawk PE. The use of Gators Grip glue helped too; it seems to separate fairly easily and clean up well. The upper catwalks were reinstalled in the correct position and it now looks right. A bit more touching up needed but I'm glad I did the rework This is the next section of upper catwalk ready to install. Fiddly to fold the braces but its thick enough to hold shape well This mounts on the outer edge of the lower catwalk level with the top of the railings The upper catwalk is installed on the lower section and the lower catwalk is installed at the bows along with a couple of ladders and short platforms on the hull Thanks for looking in Alan Landlubber Mike, mtaylor, Canute and 7 others 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share #65 Posted February 19, 2022 A serious day of folding and building the starboard catwalks. Its slow work waiting for the lower catwalks to set in place before adding the upper ones. However the starboard side is complete apart from a couple of bracing pieces that go under the forward platforms It looks like the back of the upper catwalk has lifted since it was placed. A job for tomorrow Thanks for looking in and thanks for the kind feedback. This is turning out to be the biggest project I have attempted Have a great weekend everyone Alan ccoyle, mtaylor, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted February 19, 2022 Share #66 Posted February 19, 2022 Incredible - just amazing. OC. mtaylor, Dave_E, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted February 20, 2022 Share #67 Posted February 20, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 3:12 AM, king derelict said: A serious day of folding and building the starboard catwalks. Its slow work waiting for the lower catwalks to set in place before adding the upper ones. However the starboard side is complete apart from a couple of bracing pieces that go under the forward platforms It looks like the back of the upper catwalk has lifted since it was placed. A job for tomorrow Thanks for looking in and thanks for the kind feedback. This is turning out to be the biggest project I have attempted Have a great weekend everyone Alan Definitely worth the effort Dave_E, Canute, lmagna and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share #68 Posted February 21, 2022 5 hours ago, mikegr said: Definitely worth the effort Thank you Mike. The Hobby Boss PE provides the catwalks but no railings for them. I don't think it would look good so i'm very glad that I got the Eduard set. Even if it is a bit trying to fit it does look nice and it mirrors the real thing pretty closely. So far I have only found them to be wrong with the number of ordinance chutes but the ship has been around since 1986 and I'm attempting to show it in 2013 so things may well have changed. Alan mtaylor, Dave_E, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share #69 Posted February 21, 2022 I tidied up and finished the last PE details on the starboard side. It seemed like a good time to fit the elevators. They are going to get delicate with the PE nets fitted so I thought it was time to install them now. I set on at deck level and the other at the hanger deck level I moved onto the port side and made up and fitted the bow section; folded up the next two sections and left the glue to set on the additional railings sections. I left the hull on its side to allow the railings to set up without drooping and came back to find the hull had fallen off the base. The pesky Amazon double sided tape failed again. Luckily it fell the right way, two inches onto teh work surface instead of three feet to the tile floor. I had a heart in mouth few minutes looking it over but so far I see no damage. Curiously I had been thinking about fitting the island I am so glad i didn't; I don't think the radar arrays would have survived. I had bought some heavy duty double sided tape and have great hopes for it - although its going to be handled with care. Thanks for looking in Alan mtaylor, Canute, lmagna and 6 others 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share #70 Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 1:37 AM, Old Collingwood said: Incredible - just amazing. OC. Thank you very much OC. The catwalks are really making the model in my view but they are a huge exercise in breath control, accurate folding, and careful placement. Its pushing my boundaries and if I try to do too much its almost stressful. After the catwalks there are all the nets to fit too. Oh My Alan Old Collingwood, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 21, 2022 Share #71 Posted February 21, 2022 Double sided tape? I've been using a bath towel folded/rolled to hold my ship on their side. I'll have to consider that, but then, mine all wood. lmagna, Canute and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share #72 Posted February 22, 2022 21 hours ago, mtaylor said: Double sided tape? I've been using a bath towel folded/rolled to hold my ship on their side. I'll have to consider that, but then, mine all wood. It may not be an acceptable thing to do and it really only works for waterline models but I like to work with the hull on a base. It keeps my paws off the hull and from both marring the paint and touching something fragile. The Wasp is especially bad with ladders platforms and catwalks all over the hull. Generally the standard Scotch double sided stuff works well for my little destroyers but the Amazon tape has very little grip. The problem is compounded because the Wasp model doesn't have a waterline baseplate so the tape is only gripping the edges of the hull. So far the heavy duty stuff is working well (until it falls off again 😄) Alan Old Collingwood, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share #73 Posted February 22, 2022 The catwalk saga continues. Actually I finished the port side lower catwalks today The last section continues round to the fantail and is not at all nice to fit. The weight of the fantail section makes the piece try to sag out of position. I've started adding a little CA glue to the tops of the struts to help hold it all in place and that is working better. I also fitted the first section of the upper catwalks on the port side. This is the real insanity stuff; trying to place a long unwieldy section and line it up with the lower catwalk struts. I don't normally like it but I am using a few dabs of CA on the upper catwalks to get an improved bond with the lower catwalks The Gators Grip takes too long to really get hold and the pieces are apt to drift. Three more sections will complete the port side. Then there are some ladders and platforms and braces to add. The PE frets are still pretty well populated Thanks for looking in Alan ccoyle, mtaylor, dcicero and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share #74 Posted February 23, 2022 I got in the PE groove today and kept it moving forwards with breaks now and then for tea and to rest the eyes. Actually I think I found a better way to fold the braces for the catwalks and that speeded up the job enough to keep up the momentum. So I finished all the port side catwalks today. A major cheer and free pints of Old Peculiar all round. I'm now starting on the smaller port side platforms and the boat davits. The first of the platforms is installed but a bit blurry in the photos Same old catwalk photos but i tried a different angle to show the way the two levels lay along the hull. Generally they came out quite nicely and they do make the model I think Lots more still to do. The nettings will be the next major task. I'm trying to decide when to add the island. At last the PE frets are starting to empty Thanks for looking in Alan mikegr, yvesvidal, Dave_E and 6 others 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted February 23, 2022 Share #75 Posted February 23, 2022 Hard to remember sometimes that you are working in 1/700! Canute, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted February 23, 2022 Share #76 Posted February 23, 2022 All that girder and railing work is spectacular - fantastic job! Canute, lmagna, Dave_E and 2 others 5 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share #77 Posted February 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Landlubber Mike said: All that girder and railing work is spectacular - fantastic job! Thank you very much Mike I hadn't realised what I had let myself in for with the PE on this kit. This is a new level of PE work for me. I think the Eduard PE is making it easier for me. The thickness is enough to keep everything straight. The railings may be a touch overscale but I think I would have struggled more with the delicate Flyhawk stuff. The kit PE doesn't have any railings for the catwalks which I think would look strange. The bending tools are great for getting the long straight folds. Alan Canute, mtaylor, Landlubber Mike and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share #78 Posted February 24, 2022 After completing the catwalks yesterday, today was focused on the braces that support the smaller platforms. Lots of thin brass to bend and fit. I finished the port side but was losing my fine motor control and focus so I went over to teh Abrams for some light relief. The next task is folding tiny platforms and ladders for catwalk access from the flight deck - that are a depressing number of them too.😄 Etc, Etc - you get the picture Thanks for looking in and for the likes Alan yvesvidal, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigEp Ziggy Posted February 25, 2022 Share #79 Posted February 25, 2022 WOW! Such detail in 1/700 scale! Wow, again. mtaylor and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share #80 Posted February 26, 2022 Thank you very much Ziggy The Eduard PE really enhances this kit Alan SigEp Ziggy, Old Collingwood, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share #81 Posted February 26, 2022 A day in tiny world today. I completed the catwalk access ladders that are set at intervals around the edge of teh flight deck. The parts are tiny making a small platform and a short ladder - repeat ten times The end result is barely visible but they are there on the real ship so.... I also tidied up the braces under the platforms. Next I plan to touch up paint before moving onto the last parts like the boat davits and a couple of radar domes and platforms before the dreaded netting. Thanks for looking in Have a great weekend everyone Alan RGL, Canute, mikegr and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share #82 Posted March 5, 2022 Back again after some days of annoying activity in the real world, renewing house insurance and the 2021 income tax return. PE never looked so good! There are two radar platforms that mount on the hull and are made up of six pieces. The instructions has you making up teh assembly and installing it as a complete item. That sounded quite good until I realised that this would mean getting six holes and a tab perfectly aligned. Not a a chance so I used medium CA glue and installed the platform and dome and then the braces and while the glue was soft moved each piece into final place. A big moment - I added the island. It seemed that the hull was going to get very fragile with the nets installed and getting the island down snug might involve a bit of force so I put it on. It went down quite nicely and suddenly this is starting to look like a ship. With the island on I added the deck railings behind it on the starboard side. Some very small pieces Next step will be to do a bit more touching up - and straighten that aft mast top platform Still a long way to go. I'm beginning to think this might deserve a seascape and a case of its own. I hope everyone has a great weekend Thanks for looking in Alan lmagna, Dave_E, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_E Posted March 5, 2022 Share #83 Posted March 5, 2022 Looking REALLY good Alan! 👍😀 Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share #84 Posted March 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Dave_E said: Looking REALLY good Alan! 👍😀 Thank you very much Dave Its starting to come together. I'm hoping not to fall on my face in the last stages. The weathering is going to be really interesting. Alan mtaylor, Canute, mikegr and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted March 5, 2022 Share #85 Posted March 5, 2022 Lovely work - looking really sharp. OC. lmagna, king derelict, mtaylor and 1 other 3 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share #86 Posted March 28, 2022 Sorry about the hiatus in progress. I've been back to Blighty for thed last three weeks visiting my dad and other family after a covid driven two year absence. The family was priority so I didn't get out and about as much as I had hoped but I had a great time. I did take my 96 year old dad out to the National Arboretum and we spent four hours walking about and making our usual stop at the Parachute Regiment memorial (his wartime mob), The cafe for coffee and homemade cakes afterwards was also a favourite. We have been there a number of times and still haven't seen a lot of the monuments. Great place. So back home and jet lagged it looks like everyone has been doing some marvelous work. I have so much to catch up on. After fending off my attention starved cats I did manage to spend some time on the next part of the Wasp build; fitting the life raft containers. My photos show significant changes from the kit layout to the ship configuration in 2013. Thankfully this meant I needed less containers rather than more. In 2013 the ship had considerably fewer containers fitted. After a lot of time studying the photos the containers were installed. The starboard side is 100% correct but the angles of some of the photos of the starboard side mke placement a bit obscure but I think its very close now. I gave the containers a white wash to make them a little more visible. In real life they are a light grey but they looked a bit formless with just the grey coat. Its good to be home and hopefully making some more progress. The netting will be the next job Thanks for looking in Alan RGL, yvesvidal, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted March 29, 2022 Share #87 Posted March 29, 2022 Welcome back Alan, glad you had some Special family time. great to see you back on this - making Superb progress mate. OC. Canute, Dave_E and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 29, 2022 Share #88 Posted March 29, 2022 Good to see you back, Alan. Welcome back home here at MSW and glad you had a good trip across the pond. Canute, lmagna, Dave_E and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share #89 Posted March 29, 2022 23 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: Welcome back Alan, glad you had some Special family time. great to see you back on this - making Superb progress mate. OC. Thanks OC. It was great to spend time with family and see some old haunts but its good to be home too. Alan mtaylor, Canute and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share #90 Posted March 29, 2022 22 hours ago, mtaylor said: Good to see you back, Alan. Welcome back home here at MSW and glad you had a good trip across the pond. Thank you Mark Its good to back and catch up on all the great builds again Alan mtaylor, Old Collingwood and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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