DanB Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share #61 Posted May 5, 2022 Throat halyard, peak halyard and main sheet Instructions were pretty clear, but I should have looked ahead and figured out where these blocks with the eyes go first and it would have saved me some extra work. Lines are not in permanently yet so I can tighten the and adjust them. Instructions say not to glue in the mast and use the stays to hold it in position, but I am not sure how well that is going to work. Stays The turnbuckles that are supplied have holes that are too small for the 0.7 mm line and the hooks on the opposite ends are also pretty small. I tried widening the hole in one with a broach but it was too delicate after I widened the hole and it broke. Tied using a loop of 0.4mm to connect them to the loop on the larger line (not very ship shape I think) but it was difficult to get the jib stay tight that way. I think I will try it again. Prowler901, JpR62, tlee01 and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share #62 Posted May 13, 2022 Standing Rigging This was harder than I thought it would be. As per the instructions, I did not glue in the mast. Using small alligator clips on the lines, I think I was able to get the tension on the back stays balanced so the mast was vertical. I bought 0.55 mm black line which fit the supplied turnbuckles much better. It would have been a bit easier to attach the turnbuckles if had made the holes in the chainplates closer to the edge as the hooks on the turnbuckles are very small. I had to use epoxy on one to get it into position. On to the jib sail. bobandlucy, GrandpaPhil, Ryland Craze and 8 others 11 Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted May 13, 2022 Share #63 Posted May 13, 2022 Looks really, really good, Dan! Yeah, I did as much of the mast and sail rigging work horizontally on the table, and waited until about this point to place the mast on the boat. And I had binder clips and clothes pins all over the rigging! Your standing rigging is nice! The jib sail should be much easier... or at least that's what I kept telling myself! Sweet! Gregg Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share #64 Posted May 13, 2022 13 hours ago, GGibson said: Looks really, really good, Dan! Yeah, I did as much of the mast and sail rigging work horizontally on the table, and waited until about this point to place the mast on the boat. And I had binder clips and clothes pins all over the rigging! Your standing rigging is nice! The jib sail should be much easier... or at least that's what I kept telling myself! Sweet! Gregg Thanks Gregg! Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.bukovich Posted May 13, 2022 Share #65 Posted May 13, 2022 Looks great! I'm curious... after all the painting and gluing and such, is the centerboard still functional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share #66 Posted May 14, 2022 Hi Mark Unfortunately, the centerboard does not function on my model. In the instructions there is an option to make it function and and option to just glue it in position. Getting it to move properly was one of the more difficult parts of assembling the central spine as it was necessary to modify the slot that the rod travels in quite a bit (see the beginning of my build and others on this site). I thought I had it working pretty well but, I think I had to do some ungluing of several bulkheads to get them to fit properly and align with the deck, and I most likely during that process diluted glue got into the centerboard slot and it was then stuck. I managed to free it but had to remove the rod to do it so I just took the option of gluing it so it was in the down position . Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catopower Posted May 17, 2022 Share #67 Posted May 17, 2022 Beautiful job on this model Dan! Or should I say "neighbor"? I live just up the road from you in Pleasant Hill. I look forward to seeing more of your work. DanB 1 Quote Clare Hess He's a -> "HE" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share #68 Posted May 19, 2022 Jib Sail in Progress I I had trouble with this. The first step is to tape down the cloth and use white glue diluted to a cream consistency with water to stiffen it. I have been using Elmer’s Glue All, and it was working well. I used a new bottle to do the jib sail, and it did not work well, the cloth bubbled up as it was drying. I dug my old bottle out and noticed that it said “Interior” on it. The other bottle had different stuff in it, not as thick. I read lots of build logs (maybe too many?), and several people mentioned using Modge Podge for this step. I decided to try that instead of hunting for the other species of Elmer’s Glue-All. Modge Podge seems to be working great and it smoothed out most of the bubbles. Since I am not planning to put any of my models in the water at this point, I will have to find another bottle of the Interior stuff, it was thicker, smelled better and it comes apart nicely with a bit of rubbing alcohol when I make mistakes. JpR62, GGibson, AJohnson and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted May 19, 2022 Share #69 Posted May 19, 2022 Jib sail looks good, Dan! Yeah, I have seen the "interior" labeled bottle of Elmer's around, but didn't like the look of the pour spout (I know, sounds like a silly reason), so I've been sticking with (pun intended) the more conventional bottle in the middle of your picture. I have not heard about the Mod Podge, so will have to look for it next time I need to restock. You are getting close to the end! Congrats! Gregg druxey 1 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandlucy Posted May 22, 2022 Share #70 Posted May 22, 2022 Looks great! DanB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share #71 Posted May 24, 2022 Jib sail — twice Moving a long slowly. Working on my rigging skills 😀 The kit comes with a full size sail plan. I meticulously copied the locations for the holes for in the sail for the hanks that hold the jib sail to the fore stay. I did not take a close look at the brass loops that are supplied with the kit for the hanks. If I had , I would have figured out that the holes needed to be closer to the edge of the sail. I will probably need to keep learning this lesson: read the instructions, look at the plans, and the materials, and the ship! There is an option to use rope hanks to attach the jib sail and the plan even has a nice diagram to show how to do it, but I used up all the beige 0.4mm line. I went to the local hardware store, bought some 28 gauge black annealed steel wire. I wrapped it around a small screw driver and used the same technique that was used for the mast hoops to make slightly larger loops that the ones supplied for the hanks for the jib sail. That seemed to work well ,but then I noted that fore stay did not seem tight enough. I took the whole thing apart today and rigged it again The down haul form the front of the jib sail is supposed to belay at a cleat on the bow sprit. I think my splice loop on the sail was too big and the line was not close enough to to the block it goes though and not long enough to belay at the cleat. I will do that that again — after a break. I am going to spend some time looking at videos and diagrams of how lines are supposed to be attached to a Sampson post and watching videos to relearn how to make a cleat hitch. mark.bukovich, Prowler901, Paul Le Wol and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.bukovich Posted May 24, 2022 Share #72 Posted May 24, 2022 2 hours ago, DanB said: Jib sail — twice Moving a long slowly. Working on my rigging skills 😀 The kit comes with a full size sail plan. I meticulously copied the locations for the holes for in the sail for the hanks that hold the jib sail to the fore stay. I did not take a close look at the brass loops that are supplied with the kit for the hanks. If I had , I would have figured out that the holes needed to be closer to the edge of the sail. I will probably need to keep learning this lesson: read the instructions, look at the plans, and the materials, and the ship! There is an option to use rope hanks to attach the jib sail and the plan even has a nice diagram to show how to do it, but I used up all the beige 0.4mm line. I went to the local hardware store, bought some 28 gauge black annealed steel wire. I wrapped it around a small screw driver and used the same technique that was used for the mast hoops to make slightly larger loops that the ones supplied for the hanks for the jib sail. That seemed to work well ,but then I noted that fore stay did not seem tight enough. I took the whole thing apart today and rigged it again The down haul form the front of the jib sail is supposed to belay at a cleat on the bow sprit. I think my splice loop on the sail was too big and the line was not close enough to to the block it goes though and not long enough to belay at the cleat. I will do that that again — after a break. I am going to spend some time looking at videos and diagrams of how lines are supposed to be attached to a Sampson post and watching videos to relearn how to make a cleat hitch. It's looking good, Dan. I encountered a similar problem when I was working on the rigging for my Chesapeake Bay Flattie. The instructions said to cut a line of a certain length, and it turned out too short on the actual model. I should have checked the length on the model first. These were the halyards, and I didn't realize they were too short until I ran them through the blocks. Since they were already tied, I decided to splice more line to them instead of redoing it. DanB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share #73 Posted May 27, 2022 Getting Close to Finished I still have a few more rope coils to make and place, oar locks to glue in and one back stay that is a bit loose to re- do (again). I keep needing to remind myself to slow down, take my time. I’ve been doing a lot of the rigging a few times over on this one. I am going to LA to see family for Memorial Day, so finishing the Lobster Smack have to wait until next week. AJohnson, mark.bukovich, druxey and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted May 27, 2022 Share #74 Posted May 27, 2022 Looks great, Dan! Safe travels! Enjoy the holiday weekend. DanB 1 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowler901 Posted May 28, 2022 Share #75 Posted May 28, 2022 Great job! This is one that has always been on my list. Just haven't pulled the trigger yet. Todd DanB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted June 3, 2022 Author Share #76 Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) Finished! Overall, this kit has been a very good experience. David Antscherl´s instruction manual is excellent. The planking instructions were very helpful, and it was nice to be able to learn to do it using pre shaped planks. It was also much clearer in this kit how to shape the masts and spars from square to round. It would have been helpful to have more detailed plans for the hull, and rigging, but it was usually possible to figure things out form the photos in the manual and the written instructions. Other build logs on this site are also a great help, and I hope mine will also be of some help to anyone else who builds the Lobster Smack. I was planning to build the Sultana next and try to follow Chuck Passaro’s very detailed practicum. I ordered the kit at the end of March during Model Expo’s pre-moving sale. It is still back ordered with no information on when it will be available 🙁. So my next project will be the NRG half hull project which arrived here about 6 days after I ordered it last week. Edited June 3, 2022 by DanB Baker, gsdpic, Prowler901 and 8 others 11 Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted June 3, 2022 Share #77 Posted June 3, 2022 Well done! A lovely clean model to be proud of. Ryland Craze 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted June 3, 2022 Share #78 Posted June 3, 2022 Rigging looks great, Dan! Congrats on finishing. A model to definitely be proud of! Next! Ryland Craze 1 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted June 3, 2022 Author Share #79 Posted June 3, 2022 47 minutes ago, druxey said: Well done! A lovely clean model to be proud of. Thanks! Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted June 3, 2022 Author Share #80 Posted June 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, GGibson said: Rigging looks great, Dan! Congrats on finishing. A model to definitely be proud of! Next! Thanks! Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowler901 Posted June 3, 2022 Share #81 Posted June 3, 2022 Congrats! She looks fabulous! Todd Dave_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted June 3, 2022 Share #82 Posted June 3, 2022 Congratulations, Dan! She does indeed look great. Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryland Craze Posted June 3, 2022 Share #83 Posted June 3, 2022 Congratulations Dan on finishing this model. You did an excellent job on building this model. Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.bukovich Posted June 3, 2022 Share #84 Posted June 3, 2022 Congratulations Dan! As others have said, she looks great! I have to say also that it was a great build log with plenty of helpful detail. Seeing the experience makes me want to try this kit at some point in the future. It seems that while the curves make this boat quite pretty, they also make her more challenging to build. Dave_E and DanB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandlucy Posted June 3, 2022 Share #85 Posted June 3, 2022 Looks very nice, Dan! Dave_E and DanB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted June 3, 2022 Share #86 Posted June 3, 2022 Well done Dan, very nice indeed. 👌 Dave_E and DanB 2 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard models (1/64), HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64), Hawker-Typhoon-1b-"Car-Door" - Airfix (1/24) Completed (Ship):- "Nisha" - Vanguard Models (1/64), HMS Orestes (Mars) - Caldercraft (1/64), HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft (1/64), TSS Earnslaw - Paper Shipwright (1/250), Puffer "Starlight" - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Completed (Non-Ship):-Blackburn Buccaneer S.2C - Airfix (1/48), Bristol Beaufort - Airfix (1/72), Mosquito B.XVI - Airfix (1/72), , Sea-Harrier-FRS1 - Airfix (1/72), Grumman F6F-5 Hellcat - Airfix (1/24), De Havilland Chipmunk T.10 - Airfix (1/48), Flamborough Head Lighthouse - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted June 3, 2022 Author Share #87 Posted June 3, 2022 Thanks very much to everyone for all of the nice comments! Dan Dave_E 1 Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_E Posted June 3, 2022 Share #88 Posted June 3, 2022 Outstanding Dan! Excellent work and detail. When you start the half hull… do a build log? 👍😀 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted June 3, 2022 Author Share #89 Posted June 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Dave_E said: Outstanding Dan! Excellent work and detail. When you start the half hull… do a build log? 👍😀 Thanks Dave! Starting the Half Hull today. I needed a trip to the hardware store for some supplies to get started. I will start a build log. It looks like there are lots of them and the instructions are great, but it is so helpful to get suggestions and encouragement for others along the way. Dave_E 1 Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted June 16, 2022 Share #90 Posted June 16, 2022 Congratulations! Well done! Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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