hamilton Posted January 3 Share #181 Posted January 3 Great start on the rigging John! And Happy New Year to you! hamilton John Ruy 1 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted January 10 Author Share #182 Posted January 10 Rat Lines… Sheer Poles made from blackened copper wire… Started the Rat lines last night, but I think I need to tighten these a bit. 😆 Cheers 🍻 Glen McGuire, KurtH, bhermann and 7 others 10 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted January 13 Share #183 Posted January 13 (edited) On 12/1/2023 at 5:39 PM, Papa said: fantastic metal work and attention to detail. Well said Papa! Hi John She continues to be a lovely build, kudos. I never realized Bluenose had pear shaped deadeyes combined with round ones. I cannot find plans or photos of Bluenose or any other vessel ever having that combination. Very interesting. Allan Edited January 13 by allanyed Glen McGuire and John Ruy 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted January 13 Author Share #184 Posted January 13 30 minutes ago, allanyed said: Well said Papa! Hi John She continues to be a lovely build, kudos. I never realized Bluenose had pear shaped deadeyes combined with round ones. I cannot find plans or photos of Bluenose or any other vessel ever having that combination. Very interesting. Allan Thanks Alan for the kudos… I’m thinking I may have oversized the lower deadeyes and am considering a redo. Your thoughts… Thanks Here is a couple of photos from the original Bluenose and the replica Bluenose II… GrandpaPhil, Glen McGuire and allanyed 3 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted January 14 Author Share #185 Posted January 14 Rat lines continued… OK, I’ve decided not to let OCD get the best of me and let well enough alone on the deadeyes. I did start over on the rat lines. Onwards … Cheers 🍻 Glen McGuire, Knocklouder, bhermann and 9 others 12 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted January 16 Share #186 Posted January 16 Excellent work as always John. Sometimes I wonder what the point is of planking a hull that is smoothed to look like a solid hull and then painted. Seems like one has gone to a lot of hard work that is then hidden from view. Ron Glen McGuire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted January 16 Author Share #187 Posted January 16 3 hours ago, Papa said: Excellent work as always John. Sometimes I wonder what the point is of planking a hull that is smoothed to look like a solid hull and then painted. Seems like one has gone to a lot of hard work that is then hidden from view. Ron Thank you Ron… I think the same, until I work on a solid hull. The carving is so much harder to make smooth. 😆 Papa and Glen McGuire 2 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted January 16 Share #188 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, John Ruy said: The carving is so much harder to make smooth. 😆 Sounds a “Law of Conservation of Difficulty” John Ruy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Posted January 16 Share #189 Posted January 16 My Gjoa is a solid hull kit, but I planked over it! John Ruy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueJacket Posted January 18 Share #190 Posted January 18 On 1/16/2024 at 3:57 PM, Papa said: Sounds a “Law of Conservation of Difficulty” Or maybe it is "inspired laziness" Nic Glen McGuire, John Ruy and bridgman 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted January 22 Author Share #191 Posted January 22 (edited) Rat Lines continued… I chose to place the rat lines across three of the four shroud lines. Each rat line starts with a half hitch on the first line. I then verify the distance. (5-6 mm) I then place a tiny drop of CA glue on the half hitch knot. Using a paper towel I immediately wick of the excess glue. I then complete the series of two more knots across the shroud. We fast forward to the top, where it really gets tough. 😬 I use nail clippers to trim each line, taking care not to clip the shroud. There are Fifty rat lines per shroud, that’s 100 tails to clip. Four sets of shrouds means I will have 400 clippings to clip on 200 rat lines. But who’s counting? 😆 1 of 4 should completed… Onwards 🍻 Edited January 22 by John Ruy Cathead, KurtH and bhermann 3 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted January 22 Share #192 Posted January 22 29 minutes ago, John Ruy said: There are Fifty rat lines per shroud, that’s 100 tails to clip. Four sets of shrouds means I will have 400 clippings to clip on 200 rat lines. But who’s counting? 😆 Ummm, apparently you were!! 🤣🤣 Nice work on shrouds, John! I am not a knot expert, but is there a discernable difference in strength and appearance between a half hitch and clove hitch? As I recall on my Ballahoo, I used clove hitches on the rat lines, and used clove hitches again when I tied the stirrups to the footropes on the Bluenose bowsprit. At this scale, probably makes little difference. Either method, as you pointed out, is being secured by a touch of CA glue, anyways. Looking great overall, John! Envious of how far you have gotten so well. Carry on, sir! 👍 John Ruy 1 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted January 22 Author Share #193 Posted January 22 Thanks Ron… I’m plugging along, rat lines are one of my least favorite tasks. They just seem to take forever. Very tedious! 😜 The half hitch is much simpler than the clove hitch and the knot is smaller. As you said, the glue holds it in place. Maybe it’s “inspired laziness” as Nic puts it. 😆 It is much easier and the deference is not noticeable. Cathead 1 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted February 7 Author Share #194 Posted February 7 Fore Ratlines completed… Cheers 🍻 Glen McGuire, KurtH, GGibson and 4 others 7 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted February 7 Share #195 Posted February 7 Nice work, John! Long process but looking good! I'm beginning my own Bluenose mast work, so may be asking questions. John Ruy, Knocklouder and Glen McGuire 3 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr PR Posted February 7 Share #196 Posted February 7 John, I'm sure you are glad that is done! One down and one to go. I am also working on rigging at this time, and it is pretty complex and tedious work. I am saving the ratlines until after everything else is rigged. John Ruy and Glen McGuire 2 Quote Phil Current build: https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/19611-albatros-by-dr-pr-mantua-scale-140-about-1815/&tab=comments#comment-601276 Previous build: https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/19321-uss-oklahoma-city-clg-5-1971-3d-cad-model/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted February 7 Author Share #197 Posted February 7 5 hours ago, Dr PR said: I am also working on rigging at this time, and it is pretty complex and tedious work. Agreed… But we love it, don’t we. 😆 Glen McGuire and ERS Rich 2 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted March 12 Author Share #198 Posted March 12 Ratlines Complete!!! Onwards! 🍻 GGibson, David Lester, Cathead and 1 other 4 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocklouder Posted March 12 Share #199 Posted March 12 (edited) It sure is looking good, could you tell me the name of the color that you painted the lower hull I know its red but what which manufacturer that sort of thing ?. I inherited a billings Bluenose, it is half finished, but I need to repaint it, it's gold right now but I need to fix it up and would like to paint it like yours . I am starting a journal for this ship and will write it down right away lol.I know when I finally get around to finishing it I will be looking at this log lots. Thanks so much. Bob M . Edited March 12 by Knocklouder More info Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Santa Maria -Amati 1:65, La Pinta- Amati 1:65, La Nina -Amati 1:65 , Hannah Ship in a Bottle -1:300 The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 ,The Mayflower Amati 1:60, Viking Ship Drakkar-1:50 non Ship Build: 1972 Ford Sport Custom Truck Current Build: King of the Mississippi-Artesania Latina-1:80 On Hold: HMS Pegasus: Amati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted March 12 Author Share #200 Posted March 12 26 minutes ago, Knocklouder said: It sure is looking good, could you tell me the name of the color that you painted the lower hull I know its red but what which manufacturer that sort of thing ?. I inherited a billings Bluenose, it is half finished, but I need to repaint it, it's gold right now but I need to fix it up and would like to paint it like yours . I am starting a journal for this ship and will write it down right away lol.I know when I finally get around to finishing it I will be looking at this log lots. Thanks so much. Bob M . Bob, I airbrushed Model Expo MS 4814 Hull Copper Red and sealed it with Rust-oleum Semi-Gloss Clear. I liked the way it came out. John Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocklouder Posted March 12 Share #201 Posted March 12 Yes ,that turn out really nice, its awesome. That's what I want to try too! There are so many shades of red, but I like this one.Here is what I got and with luck and a lot of guidance it should look similar to yours. How does that saying go The highest form of flatter or praise is mimicking which I intend to copy yours its so cool. Thanks again Glen McGuire, John Ruy, Cathead and 1 other 4 Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Santa Maria -Amati 1:65, La Pinta- Amati 1:65, La Nina -Amati 1:65 , Hannah Ship in a Bottle -1:300 The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 ,The Mayflower Amati 1:60, Viking Ship Drakkar-1:50 non Ship Build: 1972 Ford Sport Custom Truck Current Build: King of the Mississippi-Artesania Latina-1:80 On Hold: HMS Pegasus: Amati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted March 12 Author Share #202 Posted March 12 24 minutes ago, Knocklouder said: Here is what I got and with luck and a lot of guidance it should look similar to yours. How does that saying go The highest form of flatter or praise is mimicking which I intend to copy yours its so cool. Thanks again That looks good, I’d say you have got a good start there. 🍻 Glen McGuire 1 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted March 12 Share #203 Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Knocklouder said: ...could you tell me the name of the color that you painted the lower hull I know its red but what which manufacturer that sort of thing ? Hi Bob! No doubt John's Bluenose has been turning out great from the get-go, which is why I've been following his progress (and stealing ideas!) for a long time. Yours looks equally as magnificent! Congrats! For alternative options to the hull color, on my Bluenose hull, I used Liquitex Basics Acrylic Alizarin Crimson Hue Permanent (brushed on with multiple coats) and sealed with Minwax Polycrylic Crystal Clear Topcoat. I was really pleased with the outcome. Glen McGuire and John Ruy 2 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted March 14 Author Share #204 Posted March 14 Jumbo Jib Stay… For all stays I am using the kit supplied .021” cotton/ploy line (WP1210) For the lashing I am using .18 monofilament line purchased from HiSModel.com. Lashed up the Stay (including downhaul block to the Jumbo Jib Stay Bail previously placed. Completed rigging the Jumbo Job Stay Bridle to attach the Stay to the Fore Mast. Jumbo Jib Stay completed. Next up is the Bow Sprit rigging, so I can continue placement of the Forward Stays. Cheers 🍻 bhermann, Knocklouder, Glen McGuire and 3 others 6 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted March 16 Author Share #205 Posted March 16 Turnbuckles… I used 1/16” OD Aluminum tubing and copper wire to build dummy turnbuckles. There is no mention of turnbuckles in the instructions. I wanted to try to add this detail and tried to get them small enough to be of proper scale. 😆 Used needle file to cut both sides of tubing. Used Copper wire to fit through the tubing. Turnbuckle body is held in place with a touch of CA glue. Bobstays placed Cheers 🍻 ERS Rich, Cathead, gsdpic and 4 others 6 1 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted March 16 Share #206 Posted March 16 Nice work on the turnbuckles! hamilton Glen McGuire, Knocklouder and John Ruy 2 1 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted March 16 Author Share #207 Posted March 16 33 minutes ago, hamilton said: Nice work on the turnbuckles! hamilton Thanks…. Should they be painted black or aluminum to represent Galvanized Steel? Glen McGuire 1 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted March 16 Share #208 Posted March 16 Excellent work on the turnbuckles, John! My $0.02 would be either aluminum or a brass-like gold. For my bowsprit turnbuckles, I purchased some "pre-made" ones that turned out... ok. But, now that I have a mill machine, I believe I could make some even better like yours here. And all of the tubing that I have is brass. Hmmm... I think there are some more turnbuckles higher in the rigging, isn't there? John Ruy and Glen McGuire 1 1 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ruy Posted March 16 Author Share #209 Posted March 16 21 minutes ago, GGibson said: Excellent work on the turnbuckles, John! My $0.02 would be either aluminum or a brass-like gold. For my bowsprit turnbuckles, I purchased some "pre-made" ones that turned out... ok. But, now that I have a mill machine, I believe I could make some even better like yours here. And all of the tubing that I have is brass. Hmmm... I think there are some more turnbuckles higher in the rigging, isn't there? Yep… I believe the 1921 Bluenose would have had galvanized steel. At 1/16” OD it might be a bit over scale, but I think it looks good. I’ll have to search out the detail to find out how many more I will need to make up. John Glen McGuire and ERS Rich 2 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted March 17 Share #210 Posted March 17 2 hours ago, John Ruy said: I’ll have to search out the detail to find out how many more I will need to make up. Just did another quick scan of Sheet 6 - Rigging Details, and I was probably thinking of the numerous shackles, not turnbuckles. Continued great work, John! 👍 Glen McGuire 1 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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