king derelict Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share #31 Posted October 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, mtaylor said: I would think one hit would do it. If your referencing the "88", that's the German gun. Started off as an AA gun and became the main one for artillery and armor. Thanks mark I was thinking the Churchill was a beast but you are right the 88 mm was a highly feared weapon. I don't think there was much that could stand against it. Alan Egilman, Canute, CDW and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share #32 Posted October 17, 2022 With the sand paint dry I masked up for the dark grey. I used tape on teh hull and a mixture of tape and blu=tack for the turret. The Blu=tack deals better with the uneven surfaces of the turret and is easy to mould to shape. I used Tamiya XF-24 dark grey and I think its about right. And with the tape off. Its interesting; the grey is sometimes hard to spot because it looks like shadows on the sand colour. maybe that was the intent to mimic the shadows on desert sand The tracks will now be installed and the top sections will be glued down. Gun need adding and then its time to weather it up and start the base. Thanks for looking in and for the helpful comments Alan CDW, Edwardkenway, BLACK VIKING and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 18, 2022 Share #33 Posted October 18, 2022 That has come out well Alan. OC. Edwardkenway, king derelict, Egilman and 2 others 4 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted October 18, 2022 Share #34 Posted October 18, 2022 7 hours ago, mtaylor said: I would think one hit would do it. If your referencing the "88", that's the German gun. Started off as an AA gun and became the main one for artillery and armor. Yep, Starting in late '43, the US army began issuing captured 88's to US units as foreign equipment... (even issued a service TM on it) they had problems converting our 90mm into an anti tank gun, (production issues) and they had thousands of captured examples with tons of ammo and all the technical advise they needed... (captured german crews were more than willing to teach everything about it to our engineers) they adapted it to our radar tracking for the AA role, and extensively used it on the southern France front... (the M1 90mm anti aircraft gun was slightly better as an AA gun, but was a leap forward better an an antitank gun... It's why the ground forces were clamoring for such a gun in combat... It was the same gun in the M-26 Pershing which could destroy any tank made in the world at that time with a single shot... (including the vaunted Tiger at almost any range) The only other gun that could come close to them was the 17lber in British service (Sherman Fireflys) If you were staring down the barrel of a "88" at the start of the war your goose was cooked and served, and you knew it... At the end of the war it was the American "90" taking the role as the king of the battlefield... mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted October 18, 2022 Share #35 Posted October 18, 2022 Nice work Alan, that camo looks spot on.... Old Collingwood, Jack12477, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share #36 Posted October 18, 2022 20 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: That has come out well Alan. OC. Thanks OC. Its always scary taking the masks off. Alan Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share #37 Posted October 18, 2022 16 hours ago, Egilman said: If you were staring down the barrel of a "88" at the start of the war your goose was cooked and served, and you knew it... At the end of the war it was the American "90" taking the role as the king of the battlefield... Thanks EG There is an extremely good WW2 novel called "Warriors for the Working Day" which follows a British tank crew from their training days through to the invasion and fighting in France. They are given the advice "If an 88 fires at you and misses - bail out - you don't want to be in there when they adjust their aim" Peter Elstob is the author I think. He was a tankie in WW2 and saw action in teh same theatre so its quite realistic. Alan Old Collingwood, Canute, Jack12477 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share #38 Posted October 18, 2022 16 hours ago, Egilman said: Nice work Alan, that camo looks spot on.... Thank you EG. I like the look. Alan Old Collingwood, Canute, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share #39 Posted October 18, 2022 The elastic band tracks were wrangled into place. I hated that job with Airfix tanks when I was a kid. CA glue makes it a whole lot easier. The Churchill has a good length of contact on the upper section of track for the glue to grip. The side decks (as we will call them today) were glued into position and the guns and other assorted details were added and the paint touched up. I have given it a spray of clear coat ready for weathering I cut the base out of closed cell foam, added a card stiffener and gave it a coat of gesso Thanks for looking in and the great feedback and likes Alan Canute, Edwardkenway, CDW and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 18, 2022 Share #40 Posted October 18, 2022 17 hours ago, Egilman said: Yep, Starting in late '43, the US army began issuing captured 88's to US units as foreign equipment... (even issued a service TM on it) they had problems converting our 90mm into an anti tank gun, (production issues) and they had thousands of captured examples with tons of ammo and all the technical advise they needed... (captured german crews were more than willing to teach everything about it to our engineers) they adapted it to our radar tracking for the AA role, and extensively used it on the southern France front... (the M1 90mm anti aircraft gun was slightly better as an AA gun, but was a leap forward better an an antitank gun... It's why the ground forces were clamoring for such a gun in combat... It was the same gun in the M-26 Pershing which could destroy any tank made in the world at that time with a single shot... (including the vaunted Tiger at almost any range) The only other gun that could come close to them was the 17lber in British service (Sherman Fireflys) If you were staring down the barrel of a "88" at the start of the war your goose was cooked and served, and you knew it... At the end of the war it was the American "90" taking the role as the king of the battlefield... Thanks for that bit of history. I didn't realize that 88 was used by the Americans. Nor about the Germans willingness to share the knowledge on them. Canute, Egilman, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share #41 Posted October 19, 2022 I made a homemade wash with burnt sienna oil paint and used it to pick out the panels. I think I like my own wash better than the Mig; it flowed better along the panel and detail lines. The Mig stuff needs more thinner to get the same result. The few decals that go with the El Alamein version have been put on and some more detail paint applied. I dry brushed some bright metal onto the tracks and edges of hatches and likely scrape points along the skirts. I suspect i will lose some of that in the upcoming dust application. I then air brushed several thin layers of light buff onto the model with the emphasis on the lower sections. Unfortunately I lost a lot of the panel detail but that was sort of expected. The dull coat will be the last thing to do I got impatient and instead of waiting for rock moulds I used the old crumpled kitchen foil method. I got some decent low outcrops (and a surplus) so they were added to the base and then blended in with toilet paper and diluted white glue This needs about 24 hours to dry and maybe another coat of gesso. The plan is to end up with something like this Showcasing the Churchill's ability to climb. Thanks for looking in and all the likes and comments Alan Edwardkenway, Canute, Egilman and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 19, 2022 Share #42 Posted October 19, 2022 Coming along really nicely - you have nailed the weathering. OC. Canute, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share #43 Posted October 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said: Coming along really nicely - you have nailed the weathering. OC. Thank you OC. It isn't the ultimate in high quality kits but it went together well in the end and the painting is fun. Alan Jack12477, mtaylor, CDW and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share #44 Posted October 22, 2022 I painted the rocks with a very light buff and then highlighted it with white while it was still wet. The sand is buff which a trace of yellow and some white worked into areas of it while it was drying. After it dried a sprayed it with craft glue and spread some ground ceramic dust between the rocks. I gave the whole thing a coat of matte to get rid of any glue shine The Churchill is placed. I need to paint the edges of the base and add a bit more "sand" around the rear of the tracks Thanks for looking in and the likes. I hope everyone has a great weekend Sprue Brothers has a 25% off weekend deal on a 1/32 Infinity Vampire - do I dare? Alan AJohnson, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 22, 2022 Share #45 Posted October 22, 2022 59 minutes ago, king derelict said: I painted the rocks with a very light buff and then highlighted it with white while it was still wet. The sand is buff which a trace of yellow and some white worked into areas of it while it was drying. After it dried a sprayed it with craft glue and spread some ground ceramic dust between the rocks. I gave the whole thing a coat of matte to get rid of any glue shine The Churchill is placed. I need to paint the edges of the base and add a bit more "sand" around the rear of the tracks Thanks for looking in and the likes. I hope everyone has a great weekend Sprue Brothers has a 25% off weekend deal on a 1/32 Infinity Vampire - do I dare? Alan Coming along great Alan - love dio's you can go as far as your imagination takes you.......... You know you want to (with the Sprue Brothers................resistance is fut-al) lol OC. AJohnson, CDW, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted October 23, 2022 Share #46 Posted October 23, 2022 Very nice cammo, spot on 👍 (One of the three Churchills at alamein.) AJohnson, CDW, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 23, 2022 Share #47 Posted October 23, 2022 Indeed, that Camo is super Alan. Very nice. Old Collingwood, AJohnson, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share #48 Posted October 24, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 7:21 AM, Baker said: Very nice cammo, spot on 👍 (One of the three Churchills at alamein.) Thank you very much Patrick It was interesting to read that the Churchills contribution at El Alamein wasn't quite as glorious as sometimes reported. Alan Canute, mtaylor, Baker and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share #49 Posted October 24, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 8:19 AM, CDW said: Indeed, that Camo is super Alan. Very nice. Thank you kindly Craig I'm getting better at masking I think Alan Canute, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share #50 Posted October 24, 2022 I fixed the Churchill to the base and blended the tracks in with some more sand / dust - and then dropped the whole lot. Thankfully it sustained almost no damage and was easily restored. Playing around with the White Balance and the remaining images are more like the real colours I need to work out a better set up for the photos. The colour rendition is too hit and miss this way although I like the black backdrop While reading the BBC news this morning I came across this article. A rather counter=intuitive design really but interesting The tank that could fly into battle - BBC Future Now that would be a project to play with I will declare this one to be finished. Many thanks for looking in and the likes and comments Alan Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Baker and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 25, 2022 Share #51 Posted October 25, 2022 Very nicely done Alan, really coming out well. OC. mtaylor, Canute, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share #52 Posted October 25, 2022 On 10/21/2022 at 9:13 PM, Old Collingwood said: Coming along great Alan - love dio's you can go as far as your imagination takes you.......... You know you want to (with the Sprue Brothers................resistance is fut-al) lol OC. I resisted until Sunday evening and then somehow a 1/35 Rye Field Model Leopard fell into the cart as well. I still feel virtuous because I ignored the HK 1/48 Lancaster that was nudging me as well Alan Egilman, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share #53 Posted October 25, 2022 22 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: Very nicely done Alan, really coming out well. OC. Thank you very much OC It looks nicer than I thought initially. It was a pretty basic kit Alan Old Collingwood, Canute, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted October 26, 2022 Share #54 Posted October 26, 2022 3 hours ago, king derelict said: I resisted until Sunday evening and then somehow a 1/35 Rye Field Model Leopard fell into the cart as well. I still feel virtuous because I ignored the HK 1/48 Lancaster that was nudging me as well Yeah, resistance is futile... {chuckle} WE understand.... The last time I was near a hobby shop an HK B-17F just happened to fall into my cart, on top of the 1/48 PT-109, A Takom M-46, and an HK B-25J glass nose.... Resistance is definitely futile brother.... Jack12477, Edwardkenway, king derelict and 4 others 1 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 26, 2022 Share #55 Posted October 26, 2022 12 hours ago, Egilman said: Yeah, resistance is futile. Nice haul! king derelict, Canute, Edwardkenway and 4 others 6 1 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share #56 Posted October 27, 2022 20 hours ago, Egilman said: Yeah, resistance is futile... {chuckle} WE understand.... The last time I was near a hobby shop an HK B-17F just happened to fall into my cart, on top of the 1/48 PT-109, A Takom M-46, and an HK B-25J glass nose.... Resistance is definitely futile brother.... I'm regretting not getting the Lancaster now Alan Old Collingwood, Egilman, Canute and 4 others 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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