AJohnson Posted September 7 Author Share #151 Posted September 7 Update for this week's progress, adding the topsail. This involved the usual process of paper template for testing the shape and size then constructing the sail as before. Then adding the rigging prior to mounting on the yard, this involved tying-off the the two yards so they would not move when adding the sail. Think next up is sorting the anchors and crew before adding the driver/gaff and main sail. Thanks for looking in and the likes. 😁 realworkingsailor, Oboship, JacquesCousteau and 13 others 12 4 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard models (1/64), HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64), Hawker-Typhoon-1b-"Car-Door" - Airfix (1/24) Completed:- "Nisha" - Vanguard Models (1/64), HMS Orestes(Mars) - Caldercraft (1/64), HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft (1/64), TSS Earnslaw - Paper Shipwright (1/250), Puffer "Starlight" - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald-V Posted September 7 Share #152 Posted September 7 That does look real life like! 😮 Dave_E, FriedClams, Jack12477 and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted September 7 Share #153 Posted September 7 Those sails look super, Andrew. FriedClams, Oboship, AJohnson and 1 other 3 1 Quote Current Builds: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie65 Posted September 7 Share #154 Posted September 7 Cracking job, mate! Keith Black, Dave_E, Oboship and 3 others 5 1 Quote Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedClams Posted September 8 Share #155 Posted September 8 The natural billow on those sails is fantastic, Andrew. Gary AJohnson, Jack12477, Dave_E and 2 others 4 1 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted September 11 Author Share #156 Posted September 11 Thanks @Ronald-V, @Keith Black, @Craigie65 & @FriedClams for your kind comments, glad you like the sails so far, I'm chickening out 🐔 on the last one (and largest) for now, but my excuse is if I rig the booms for the main sail now they are going to impede access to the deck for adding the crew! So I've been tidying up a few other jobs first, done work on the anchors and mounted these. With reference to Peter Goodwins "Alert" book I added seizing and whipping to the cable and also added a buoy with attached ropes and lanyard. I did contemplate lashing these to the shrouds, as is often seen in build logs, but looking through some contemporary Cutter models the buoys seem to have been stowed just as often with the anchor, either just inboard of the anchor (as I settled on) or used as a fender of sorts between the anchor and the hull. Anyway the advantage of having them on deck is they help make the deck look cluttered which I like and it partially hides my naff buoys from view; there not a patch on @Thukydides miniature masterpieces. 🤭 Not wanting to end on a downer, but had a slight mishap, I somehow - (I say "somehow" because I don't remember doing it!) I have caught a cannon and snapped off the end (pinged off into the ether as per. usual! 🙄) and also damaged the tip of a boom cradle. I really don't recall doing it! - Must be old age creeping on me! 😆 - Clumsy so and so.... Also might be away for a bit; back in hospital again this Friday, but hopefully soon out and back at the workbench. Thanks for looking in! 👋 Ronald-V, rcweir, Oboship and 15 others 18 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard models (1/64), HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64), Hawker-Typhoon-1b-"Car-Door" - Airfix (1/24) Completed:- "Nisha" - Vanguard Models (1/64), HMS Orestes(Mars) - Caldercraft (1/64), HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft (1/64), TSS Earnslaw - Paper Shipwright (1/250), Puffer "Starlight" - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thukydides Posted September 11 Share #157 Posted September 11 2 hours ago, AJohnson said: partially hides my naff buoys from view For naff buoys they look pretty good to me. I don't know why you are trying to hide them. I had to zoom in pretty close before I could see any imperfections. If I could make a minor suggestion on your rope coils, use less glue / varnish (whichever it is) on your rope. Potentially also try diluting it more and maybe add some flow aid. It will look less wet and fuzzy then. Gregory, Ryland Craze, Keith Black and 4 others 6 1 Quote Current Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_E Posted September 12 Share #158 Posted September 12 Pure art work! Outstanding! 👍😀 FriedClams, AJohnson, Oboship and 1 other 3 1 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveBaxt Posted September 12 Share #159 Posted September 12 Wow! So much work since I was last here and what a great first attempt at sails which look like they were done by a seasoned pro. Well done Andrew your workmanship is an inspiration to us all. Dave_E, AJohnson, Jack12477 and 3 others 5 1 Quote Completed St Canute Billings Dec 2020 Completed HMS Bounty Amati May 2021 Finished Currently building HM Bark Endeavour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB789 Posted September 14 Share #160 Posted September 14 Amazing sails and build Andrew, she’s coming along beautifully. On 9/11/2024 at 8:49 PM, Thukydides said: Potentially also try diluting it more and maybe add some flow aid. It will look less wet and fuzzy then Thuky - is there a flow aid product you recommend? Thanks FriedClams, Dave_E, Thukydides and 3 others 5 1 Quote Dan Current Build: Yacht Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models, 1:64) Previous Builds: Fifie (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Nisha (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Zulu (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Saucy Jack (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Erycina (Vanguard Models, 1:64), HMS Alert (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Grecian (Vanguard Models, 1:64), Ranger (Vanguard Models, 1:64), HM Gun Brig Adder (Vanguard Models, 1:64) Waiting to be Built: Speedy (Vanguard Models, 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thukydides Posted September 14 Share #161 Posted September 14 3 hours ago, DB789 said: Thuky - is there a flow aid product you recommend? Thanks I just use the liquitex one. i have never used another so cant say if it is any better than others. The reason I use it is that it helps the glue/varnish to flow into the rope so it is not on the surface. This means it still stiffens it (glue is in the core), but doesn’t show as much. Please note, you should test on scrap before trying anything new on a model as sometimes these additives have unexpected reactions with certain glues. Jack12477, Keith Black, DB789 and 3 others 6 Quote Current Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted September 19 Author Share #162 Posted September 19 Update and a change in plan, I decided after all to complete the main sail. Thinking about it, I thought whilst I was in the mood for sail making and undaunted by making 200 reef points I better get on with it, before I found excuses to avoid making further progress. This is probably the largest tissue sail I will ever make, so overall pleased with how it came out, but learned a lot more in the process of making this monster. Followed the same process as before:- paper template for shape and size, then construct the sail with a one piece core and strips glued front and back, with wire trapped in the edge for shaping later. I found using a rule helpful to fold the tissue in one piece around the wire as I went. The gluing the bolt rope along the edge to hide the wire; forming beckets etc. as I went. Reef points were actually split in two and glued separately to each face, rather than trying to tie knots flush to either face of the reef point hole to minimise handling the tissue paper -that entailed making nearly 400 of them! 😬 - but worth it not to risk trying to pull knots tight through fragile tissue! I did contemplate only adding one per. sail panel, but I knew someone would spot that and so took a deep breath and did two; have also punched in two per. panel for the robands when I get to those. Have now begun the process of adding the sail to the model. Starting with the mast hoops, so it will take it's own weight. the hoops are extras bought from Vanguard. A few shots below show the sail as it looks now, temporarily held in place with various bits of tape and temporary rigging held by clips to provide tension, but it gives an impression of the look I am aiming for eventually. Thanks for keeping me company with this experiment and the likes and kinds words! 😁 FriedClams, dunnock, Keith Black and 20 others 8 15 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard models (1/64), HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64), Hawker-Typhoon-1b-"Car-Door" - Airfix (1/24) Completed:- "Nisha" - Vanguard Models (1/64), HMS Orestes(Mars) - Caldercraft (1/64), HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft (1/64), TSS Earnslaw - Paper Shipwright (1/250), Puffer "Starlight" - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpalmer1970 Posted September 19 Share #163 Posted September 19 Excellent work, she looks splendid! I am sure you will be glad you went the extra mile with the reef points when you look back on this build in the future. Keith Black, Oboship, Jack12477 and 4 others 6 1 Quote -‐-‐-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current Build Hayling Hoy 1760 - First POF scratch build Completed HMB Endeavour's Longboat by Artesania Latina Completed HM Armed Cutter Alert by Vanguard Models Completed 18ft cutter and 34ft launch by Vanguard Models Completed Pen Duick by Artesania Latina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oboship Posted September 19 Share #164 Posted September 19 Great sail making! Glad to see you back on deck again! Uwe Dave_E, FriedClams, Jack12477 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald-V Posted September 20 Share #165 Posted September 20 Masterful! Keith Black, Oboship, Dave_E and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charter33 Posted September 20 Share #166 Posted September 20 Simply awe inspiring! Terrific result... Keith Black, FriedClams, Oboship and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipper Posted September 20 Share #167 Posted September 20 Wonderful work Andrew! There is no doubt in my mind that you would have regretted not putting in the proper number of reef points. Looking at your model makes me realise how wonderful a boat looks with the sails gently billowing! Now I am even more determined that my next build will have sails - fortunately it's a brig not a three master. Your build log will be such a help to me. Nipper Jack12477, FriedClams, Dave_E and 3 others 5 1 Quote Current build: HMS Sphinx 1775 - 1/64 - Vanguard Models Completed build: HM Cutter Alert 1777 - 1/64 - Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie65 Posted September 20 Share #168 Posted September 20 Fantastic! You should be really proud of her! FriedClams, Dave_E, AJohnson and 4 others 6 1 Quote Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_E Posted September 20 Share #169 Posted September 20 Andy, I can’t recall seeing such masterful sail work in recent memory. Outstanding detail, top shelf! 👍😀 Keith Black, Ryland Craze, AJohnson and 2 others 4 1 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrochBoating Posted September 20 Share #170 Posted September 20 Wow! That's absolutely stunning. Superb job. AJohnson, Ryland Craze, Keith Black and 2 others 4 1 Quote Simon. Current build HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard Models Previous: Saucy Jack - Vanguard Models Polaris - OcCre In the stash: HMS Speedy v2023 - Vanguard Models Nisha - Vanguard Models HM Gun Brig Adder - Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danstream Posted September 20 Share #171 Posted September 20 She looks terrific to me, Andrew. Sails are definitively very realistic. Cheers, Dan Keith Black, Dave_E, AJohnson and 3 others 5 1 Quote Current build : Mayflower - AL 1:64, Lady Nelson - Amati Victory 1:64 Completed non-ship builds : Spitfire MK I - 1:48, Arado 196B - 1:32, Sea Fury - 1:48, F-15C Eagle - 1:48, Hawker Tempest Mk.V - 1:48, F104S Starfighter - 1:48 "The most effective way to do it, is to do it" - Amelia Earhart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted Tuesday at 08:05 PM Author Share #172 Posted Tuesday at 08:05 PM (edited) Thank you all for the likes and @jpalmer1970 @Oboship @Ronald-V @Charter33 @Nipper @Craigie65 @Dave_E @BrochBoating @Danstream for your kind words. More work on the main sail, laced it to the gaff, amazing the number of times the lacing needed tightening before it seemed to grip the sail to the gaff right. Also added inhaul and outhaul tackles on the boom, I had to dip in and out of many reference books to decide on how these were going to be done. Also added brails and tackles for these, again, the variation in the sources for these is amazing, I just went with what was achievable with my skills and what would look okay against the sail. There has also been plenty of shaping of all the sails using the wire in the edges and plenty of time online looking for how gaff sails look for real (one of the best sources I found was Gaff Rig World, a group on Facebook.) I have done my best to make the sail bend naturally, as though filled with wind and allowing some deflection in profile caused by the boom lifts. It is okay, not entirely happy, but there is NO way I am redoing all that lot! 😆 Good lessons learned to be applied to the next build... Finishing touches to be done are the addition of Reef tackle, pendants and such. Then a whole load of rope hanks are required, a tidy / touch-up, varnish session, then all that remains is the motley crew and flags. Thanks again for following along. Edited yesterday at 09:49 AM by AJohnson chris watton, Ryland Craze, Danstream and 15 others 13 5 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard models (1/64), HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64), Hawker-Typhoon-1b-"Car-Door" - Airfix (1/24) Completed:- "Nisha" - Vanguard Models (1/64), HMS Orestes(Mars) - Caldercraft (1/64), HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft (1/64), TSS Earnslaw - Paper Shipwright (1/250), Puffer "Starlight" - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted Tuesday at 10:29 PM Share #173 Posted Tuesday at 10:29 PM Nice work on the sails. Very realistic looking. Keith Black, Dave_E, Ryland Craze and 1 other 3 1 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danstream Posted yesterday at 07:21 AM Share #174 Posted yesterday at 07:21 AM Impressive details and workmanship, Andrew! I missed in the past this fine build of yours and went through it only recently. I found it brilliant and I am saving it for my future reference. Best regards, Dan AJohnson, Ryland Craze, Keith Black and 1 other 3 1 Quote Current build : Mayflower - AL 1:64, Lady Nelson - Amati Victory 1:64 Completed non-ship builds : Spitfire MK I - 1:48, Arado 196B - 1:32, Sea Fury - 1:48, F-15C Eagle - 1:48, Hawker Tempest Mk.V - 1:48, F104S Starfighter - 1:48 "The most effective way to do it, is to do it" - Amelia Earhart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oboship Posted yesterday at 08:39 AM Share #175 Posted yesterday at 08:39 AM Beautiful! Uwe Ryland Craze, AJohnson, Keith Black and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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