HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64

[mobbsie]

Hey that's nicely done mate, and not too much filler at that.

 

Now all you have to do is make sure they Port side gallery lines up with the Starboard side, good luck with that.

 

Well done mate.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[Sjors]

Thanks Guy's .

 

@ Augie, send me that jar please....    

 

@ Mobbsie,

 

I hope that my eyes are straight   

Otherwise it is an angle of the camera when they are not in line with the other   

 

[realworkingsailor]

Maybe it's just an optical delusion on my part.... but it looks like the top gallery sticks out more than the bottom

 

It could just be lack of sleep too....

 

The side view looks great, however.

 

 

 

Andy

[Sjors]

Andy,

 

It's a optical illusion.......

I check it right away and it is straight with the bulwark.

If not, then i have a problem with the sternpost.

You are at work ?

 

[src]

Two weeks and thats all you have to show us????? Joking of course. 

That looks to be a lot of very fiddly work, well done!

Sam

[augie]

Grant is the guy with the spare filler.  Here's that 200Kg. drum he bought last week:

 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/163-hms-victory-by-grant-dale-mamoli-scale-190/page-63

[realworkingsailor]

Yeah, still at work.. got another month to go.

 

I was looking at the end-on shot (the second, vertical, pic you posted)... maybe my eyes are still crossed.....

 

 

Andy

[mobbsie]

Sjors, on reading eagle eye Andy's comments I had a second look mate and it does look as if the top sticks out further than the bottom.

 

If you put a calliper on the top and bottom decks you may find the top is wider, if that's the case then they are the wrong way round. The smaller deck should be at the top with the middle section sloping out to the top of the bottom gallery.

 

You have my full permission to give my -rse a good kick if I'm wrong.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[Sjors]

Andy,

 

I see now what you mean.

But when you magnify the first picture , you will see that the top gallery is lower then the bottom one.

Thanks for pointing it out.

When i'm awake tomorrow, i'm at my work at the moment, i shall make another picture..

I didn' t know that my camera can do tricky things :-)

 

Sjors

[mtaylor]

Keep up the nice work, Sjors.  On both the bus and the ship.   I always thought that filler was everyone's friend.  Was I wrong?

[Sjors]

Sorry Sam,

 

I missed your post.....

Yes, it took  two weeks.

You can glue one part and have to wait till the glue is dry because of the strange curves you have to sand and bend....

And also work.

But they are on now..

Tomorrow I can start with the second planking.

 

@ Mark,

 

Filler is OUR best friend !

I wish I invented it 

They even buy drums of 200 kg of it !!!!

Then I was rich and don't have to go to my work and spend my time at the boat     

 

@ Andy,

 

Sorry, no pictures.......

I have take a look again and you are right.

The top gallery is a little to much outside.

I remove the top gallery and try to put it a little bit to the hull.

There are coming decorations on it .

Those gallery's and transoms are my Waterloo I believe.......

 

[augie]

Not Waterloo my friend.......just a bump in the proverbial road.  You'll nail it.

[popeye the sailor]

it looks great Sjors........but I'm afraid I have to agree with the consensus.   perhaps you can remove them and swap them around?

 

I have a crystal ball.......{actually,  it's a clear marble}........I see a reno in your future     I'm sure you can fix it 

[Sjors]

After 4 times on and off I think that this it is......

I don't go for the fifth time any more......

 

Also put the first ,second plank on.

This one is in one piece, the others are going in scale.

Those long lengths is not funny to work with.

But now I know where the whales are starting.

 

[popeye the sailor]

much better Sjors.........the galley badges look great!     much better than the fashion statement you were making earlier..........or were you being  'unique' ?       nice fix!

[Beef Wellington]

I suspect quite a lot of work Sjors, but well worth the fix.  Seems a very complex area at the stern there with the different angles and the second planking to consider.  I still can't believe how quickly you're progressing, even with the rework.

[Sjors]

Thanks Jason,

 

It goes not that fast.

But it's fun to work with this kit.

Maybe that's the reason that I don't mind to re-do things ?

I think the speed is over now because of the second planking....

There goes a lot of planks on it !!!!!!

 

[augie]

You're really motoring right along.  You have more patience then I do on these reworks.

 

Question ---  on those first two of the second planking, is there a reason that last gun port is falling under the plank?  I'm looking at the flow of the first versus the second planking and there seems to be quite a difference in the two.

[Sjors]

I have to Augie,

 

Anja and Mobbsie are monitoring me     

 

And then for your question.....I have to cut out the wood that is covering the gun port.

That first plank you are looking at is the top line of the lower wale.

 

Edited June 4, 2014 by Sjors

[rafine]

A lot of work for the redo, but well worth it Sjors. I'm sure that you're happier with it now as well.

 

Bob

[gjdale]

Well done with the re-re-re-re-do Sjors! Well worth that extra effort and I'm sure you're pleased with the result.

[mtaylor]

Well done on the re-work, sir!!! 

[augie]

Yes, I thought you would cut it out.  Just surprised to see the wale run into the port.

[mtaylor]

Augie,

 

It's not that uncommon since the wales don't follow the deckline.  I think it's less common on American ships than the French or English.  Stylistic choice maybe???? 

[augie]

Thanks Mark.  Still another thing I'm learning.

[Sjors]

Thanks Bob, Grant and Mark,

 

@ Bob,

 

Yes I'm happy with the result.

It is indeed a little bit more work but when I don't do it, I know that i always will look at it and thinking by myself....why not making it better ?

 

@ Yes Grant....I am     

 

@ Mark,

 

Always a pleasure to know that someone has an answer for something.

For me it also looks strange but the drawing is saying that ,so I make it that way.

Now I know why I make it this way   

 

@ Augie,

 

You see, we are never to old to learn something     

 

[Sjors]

The second planking is done.........under the lower wale     

 

 I'm using push pins to hold the planks in the way.

I have make first the second planking and then right away I place the lower wale.

Now I can push the pins into the second planking and I don't have to use filler because the holes are covered.

And to now for sure where the wales are I paint them the first time with a primer.

I can now go further with the planky the plank and don't have to worry if I damaged the wale and paint it again and again.

 

 

 

[mobbsie]

Nicely done Sjors, the Main Wale looks great, I think the remaining planking will be a walk in the park for you, it's just going to be a long walk that all.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[Sjors]

Thanks Mobbsie,

 

It is indeed a long walk     

But what else can we do on a sunday ?

 

[newbuilder101]

You've really made a lot of progress - great job! Now, get going on your "long walk."   I know she will look great with her final planking on!