Landlubber Mike Posted June 27, 2014 Share #631 Posted June 27, 2014 Consider yourself fortunate as my 15-month old twins have been sick and, err, somewhat on the cranky side You'll have to let me know if you're down here in the future. Beef Wellington 1 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted June 29, 2014 Share #632 Posted June 29, 2014 Good shout there with the Diana. That will be my next build after Snake and Ballahoo are complete! Beef Wellington and drtrap 2 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share #633 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Got the old girl outside today for a few pics, it was such a gorgeous day. Rigging will probably continue to look a bit scrappy until everything is in place (maybe thats why this tends to be a less photographed stage of any build). I'm following the principle of avoiding tying things off until absolutely necessary to try to avoid things getting in the way, and continuing to work from stern to bow - its serving me well so far. The main topmast with the shrouds and stays rigged, its quite the stack. Backstays have not been finally secured. Main stay and preventer stay arrangement - these will be finally tensioned and tied off later. The violin blocks do look rather clunky despite trying to round these off. Couple of overall shots - she does still look as if she has her curlers in with all the loose line! Edited June 30, 2014 by Beef Wellington JesseLee, maso, Timmo and 17 others 20 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted June 30, 2014 Share #634 Posted June 30, 2014 Your workmanship is fantastic! Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted June 30, 2014 Share #635 Posted June 30, 2014 Stunning work mate. Super crisp and accurate. Hope you are enjoying an East Coast summer. Here it is cold, wet and dark..... Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted June 30, 2014 Share #636 Posted June 30, 2014 Nice work Jason, she looks beautiful B.E. Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted June 30, 2014 Share #637 Posted June 30, 2014 Beautiful stuff Jason.. those close up's of the foredeck area are amazing ! Stay Well Mate Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim I. Posted June 30, 2014 Share #638 Posted June 30, 2014 Jason, I have been learning a lot about rigging as I follow your log. Most of the ships I have rigged are 1:96 scale and I have found it difficult to replicate "authentic" seizing and wrapping shroud lines. However, your build has inspired me to find a turning machine so I can attempt these things on my current build. Thank you, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted July 3, 2014 Share #639 Posted July 3, 2014 Super crisp is a good description Alistair. Jason, your Snake just looks perfect. The lines, joints, etc. are so well done there's not a blemish in sight. I hope to get to your level of "crispness" some day Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted July 5, 2014 Share #640 Posted July 5, 2014 Beautiful work Jason, as usual - the Snake certainly makes an attractive model - even more so in such capable hands. And I'm supremely jealous of the Diana! I'll be following that build very keenly hamilton Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share #641 Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) Hipexec, BE, Alistair, Eamonn, Mike, Hamilton - thanks for the kind words, means a lot coming from you guys. Tim - I'm still struggling with this a little myself but definitely getting my eye in I think. Thanks for the kind comments Small bit of progress - ratlines are now completed, I say again, ratlines are now completed! Little bit of a celebration, I haven't found these too bad and have figured out a rhythm that works. What most bothers me is that I deliberately tried to avoid using line that was too thick to keep it looking the right scale, - I think I ended up with line that still looks a little thick to scale (not horribly so) but I will do differently next time. Not everything is finally fixed yet, but she's starting to look more like a ship. Started securing some of the various topmast back stays. I followed the plans on these - why use just a couple of blocks when you could use more! Next job will be to secure to the pins. Edited July 6, 2014 by Beef Wellington Sjors, dafi, JesseLee and 8 others 12 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted July 7, 2014 Share #642 Posted July 7, 2014 Hi Jason: A milestone indeed - I know what you mean about finding a rhythm to this part of the build - on a vessel like Snake there must have been a good number of clove hitches to complete these things - no small feat! hamilton Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted July 7, 2014 Share #643 Posted July 7, 2014 Great work Jason. The ratlines really bring the ship alive. I actually enjoyed doing the ratlines on my Badger - there's something therapeutic (to me at least) about a repetitive task once you get in the groove. Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted July 13, 2014 Share #644 Posted July 13, 2014 That looks very nice Jason, You are a fast learner Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share #645 Posted July 17, 2014 Hamilton, Mike - thanks for the comments, and also to all for the likes. Sjors - 'fast' is maybe relative Progressing with the rigging and have started tying off on cleats and pinrails. Delicate procedure that did result in one of the bulkhead cleats coming loose - mustn't have glued it well enough. It was a real swine to get back in straight with all the rigging, pin rails and carronades in place. Question: I'm tying off using the standard figure of 8 around the pin and using a dab of GS-Hypo glue to make doubly sure its secured, do people typically just trim this line off at the pin? I was planning to simulate rope coils and thinking I can just make all these when everything is done and droop over each pin hiding any loose end. egkb, hamilton, Mirabell61 and 11 others 14 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted July 17, 2014 Share #646 Posted July 17, 2014 Jason, I do that. Just trim them close so that any remaining tail doesn't interfere with the coil later on. Looking good. Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted July 17, 2014 Share #647 Posted July 17, 2014 Jason, I see that you have make multiple 8 on the pin. Maybe it is better to do it only ones or twice and then tie them up ? But good job ! Ferit 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted July 17, 2014 Share #648 Posted July 17, 2014 Very nice looking details Jason Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockholm tar Posted July 17, 2014 Share #649 Posted July 17, 2014 Jason, You're doing a really good job on the Snake, very neat. Regarding the lines coming off the pins, I do it more or less as they would on the real ship: Following the figure of eight turns, the line then comes off the top of the pin (as you have it) and I leave a 'tail' (a little shorter than you have them in the photos). Make your coil (so that it hangs off the deck of course) pass the end of the tail through it, and secure it to the turns (at rail height) with a spot of glue and leave to dry (making sure the coil is hanging vertically). Then bring the tail up over the coil, pass it around the pin, and bring it down over the front of the coil again and secure with a spot of glue. Cut the end off close and tuck it under the coil, using another dab of glue if neccessary. That seems to work well, and looks good. Gregor 1 Quote Kester Current builds: Sherbourne (Caldercraft) scale – 1/64th; Statsraad Lehmkuhl (half model) 1/8th" – 1'. Victory Bow Section (Panart/Mantua) scale – 1/78th (on hold). Previous build: Bluenose ll (Billings) scale – 1/100th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted July 17, 2014 Share #650 Posted July 17, 2014 Jason, I do that. Just trim them close so that any remaining tail doesn't interfere with the coil later on. Looking good. Looks great Jason. That's also what I did on my Badger. Kester tells you how it really should be done, but I don't know that I could have done that as more and more deck details started getting in the way. One approach that Hubert recommended on his website was to connect the belayed points first, then run the lines to where they should start. That seems like a good way to avoid all the difficulties with belaying lines when the deck starts filling up, but I wonder how easy it is to attach the lines to blocks, etc. and get the proper tension. It seems like you would be just substituting one difficult task with another. Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share #651 Posted July 17, 2014 Thanks guys Kester - thanks for the great (and detailed) explanation and tip, think I now understand what I'm seeing in photos, will definitely try that approach Mike - the thought had occurred to me, but I agree with you that I'm not sure its any easier. The advantage of tying of the end at the belaying pin is that you do have a bit more control over the tension. There are a couple of points on the stays where I've had to seize a hook on the end 'in situ' and while it can be done, its challeging. Sjors - The line I'm using (kit supplied) is rather springy and I found it just wanted to pop off, but seemed a bit more controllable by doing a couple of turns and then tying off. Do you think I'll encounter a problem doing that? Stockholm tar and Landlubber Mike 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted July 17, 2014 Share #652 Posted July 17, 2014 Not a problem Jason but it "looks" not right...... When you look at the replicas on scale 1:1 they are always ones or twice around the belaying pin. Then they tie them up in a coil or just a loop. When the rope is jumpy, maybe you can use beeswax? Not the synthetic but the pure one. Pull the rope a few times true the wax and it stays as you wish. When you make the 8 figure then, it wil be staying an 8 figure.... I know you can buy it in the States. We don't have it and someone send it to me and it works just great ! No fuzzy rope and you can turn it in every shape that you want. Don't misunderstand me please....your work is just great and I only want to help a little. Beef Wellington 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share #653 Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Yards... Putting rigging aside for a wee while to do some work on the yards. Decided that I'm going to keep the jib boom off for as long as I can as it really does seem to make working on the ship easier (and probably safer). The yards are probably the last point where I think this build could stall, so I'm quite keen to get past this. Per instructions, yards were shaped with a small davids plane to get a rough shape and then sanded to shape. I'm not sure the dimensions given in the plans are 100% accurate, but I'm following them anyway. I will be more meticulous with "Jason" when I get to this point as I'll follow the AOTS book closely. I've started with the main yard as a prototype and will finish this one before doing the others together. Additional detailing, cleats and blocks should be fun, but I'll leave that for now. To help secure the yard to the mast I inserted a small length of brass wire and drilled a hole in the mast, as well as installing the sling cleats. There are some photo etch 'caps' that go onto the end of the yard, not sure these are needed, but they do have some wings on each side, presumably to simulate an iron band. I don't have a photo, but they were way to thick/big at this scale and removed them. I will possibly simulate with thin paper strips. The kit provides two soft metal pieces to make up the quarter irons, which are to be joined by brass wire. These are too thick for scale, but I think the kit can be forgiven for this. After fiddling, I decided to replace the cast mast band with a thin strip of styrene, but thin card would probably be easier to use. The hoop for the studding sail yard has two bumps that I'm guessing simulate the hinge and cotter pin. These need to be lined up I think and be parallel to the waterline. The various pieces were drilled, glued together and attached to the yard. To get these to align properly I used a piece of long dowel feeding into each hoop allowed each one to be fine tuned before glueing in place. Also helped ensure they are symetrical, especially important for the boom irons. Yard dry fitted for first time... I had ordered some walnut dowel for the studding sail booms. Of course, I now come to find that the alleged "3mm" dowel is in fact 2.5mm Would welcome opinions on whether this looks OK, 0.5mm seems a big difference. Using supplied 3mm beech dowel (of course, slightly larger than 3mm!) perhaps illustrates whats intended. No need for a decision now, but it does appear a little more to scale so I'll probably try my luck again and order some 3mm walnut dowel. Edited July 23, 2014 by Beef Wellington WackoWolf, NMBROOK, JesseLee and 10 others 13 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBlack Posted July 23, 2014 Share #654 Posted July 23, 2014 Jason, Why not stain the beech to a darker shade? Or am I missing something? Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted July 23, 2014 Share #655 Posted July 23, 2014 Hi Jason The last photo is a better fit of course. What more could you achieve? It looks very good to me! Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted July 24, 2014 Share #656 Posted July 24, 2014 Jason, I'm with Alister on this. It fits much better. So please order the 3 mm walnut dowel and surprise me further.... For the rest it looks great ! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted July 24, 2014 Share #657 Posted July 24, 2014 very good looking Model Jason, also the rigging, well done Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted July 24, 2014 Share #658 Posted July 24, 2014 Looking very snazzy Jason.. That .5mm difference does seem big when you look at it in comparison to the other one, just how tight a fit would those studding sail booms have been.. Stay Well Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share #659 Posted July 25, 2014 The shipyard will be closing down for a few weeks for the summer holidays/vacation - heading up to Maine and New Hampshire. Feeling like I'm leaving on an upnote so its all good. Hopefully I'll have this baby complete by end of year even with some side work on the "Jason". I'm not taking anything with me to work on as I can guarantee something would get lost, a break is not a bad thing. Tom - good to hear from you. Its not a big deal at all, I can either try to sand down some the the 4mm stuff I already have or order more. To answer you question, I haven't had too much luck with stains and had decided to keep everything a natural wood colour, so my first choice would be to stick with walnut to match. Sjors - yup, think all the great minds are thinking alike Nils - thanks for kind words Eammon - its amazing how much of a difference .5mm can make, I would never have believed it, but these small scales do have surprises (both pleasant and unpleasant) Ray, egkb, Sjors and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted July 25, 2014 Share #660 Posted July 25, 2014 Enjoy your vacation Jason ! We will be here when you are back Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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