HMS Victory by guraus - scale 1:48 - plank on frame

[Patrick Haw]

Alexandru,

 

Your ship as not just a model, it's a work of art and an inspiration to model builders of whatever experience and skill level.  Thank you for sharing it with us.

 

Patrick

[WackoWolf]

Alexandru,

 

     I look forward to you build and enjoy the updates, I have to remind myself that it is a model. Keep the pictures coming, I will be watching this all the way to the finished.

[guraus]

Thank you guys, your comments are highly appreciated.

 

Here are the last pictures. With these I am up to current status. Now I have to actually do some work before posting ne ones.

 

Alexandru

[tkay11]

Thanks so much for the reposting of this wonderful build. It's as beautiful as it is inspiring.

 

Any chance of your reposting the pictures of the longboat build for this model?

 

I am trying to do a longboat for my own model at the moment, and it would be great if I could have another chance of looking at yours. I have been using layers of MDF as you did, and started carving out the shape. I forgot to leave space for the frames, so there's a bit more sanding being done at the moment. I seem to remember you covered your longboat in clingfilm to stop the frames being glued to the mould, but it would be great just to have a look at the overall sequence again if at all possible.

 

(Hoping I haven't somehow missed your reposting of those pictures when going through your log),

 

Tony

[guraus]

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Any chance of your reposting the pictures of the longboat build for this model?

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Tony

Tony,

 

I haven't thought to repost the build of Victory's launch but I can do it. In the mean time you can take a look at the build log I have on my personal web site here: http://www.alexshipmodels.com/BuildLogs/34FtLaunch/34FtLaunch.htm

 

I am glad you found it useful for your build. 

 

Alexandru

[tkay11]

That's just what I wanted, Alexandru. Perfect. Thanks very much!

 

Tony

[guraus]

Here are some pictures with the progress I've done over the weekend.

For some reason I can't figure out the order of the pictures gets all messed up!

[Alex M]

Hi Alexandru, independent of picture order it is incredible and precise work! Lovely pictures.

Alexander

[mtaylor]

Alexandru,

Lovely work. 

 

As for the picture order... after "attaching", go here and do Step 5.  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/540-how-to-add-pictures-in-your-posts-and-pms/

They will post in the order that you click "Add to Post".

[cabrapente]

mtaylor 

beautiful work.

a greeting

cabrapente

Edited March 24, 2013 by cabrapente

[tkay11]

Alexandru, your site with photos of your 34ft launch for the Victory has been reporting the following for several days: "Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later".

 

Is there any chance of your posting these pictures either with this build, or as another build log?

 

Thanks

 

Tony

[AnobiumPunctatum]

It's allways a pleasure and a time travel to visit your fantastic log.

 

You can add the pictures to your log by clicking on the button with this name after uploading. The picture will than not shown at the end of your posting but at the current cursor position. So you can easily manipulate the picture order.

[guraus]

Tony,

 

I know my site is off - it happens since I posted the link to it on this site close to the end of the month - it will be back online April 1st. I have more traffic than I anticipated and payed for. I would have to consider a more expensive package with more bandwith but I think I already payed for two years in advance but I am sure I could pay the difference for an upgrade.

 

In the mean time I will create a log for the launch on this site and I will let you know.

 

Christian,

 

I will tray your method soon, thanks for the instructions.

 

Alexandru

[guraus]

Tony, here it is: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1474-34-ft-hms-victory-launch-by-alexandru-scale-148-completed/

Alexandru

[tkay11]

Thanks a lot, Alexandru. That is really kind of you, and I am sure many others will benefit from these extra pictures as well.

 

I hope your issues with your internet service provider are overcome!

 

Tony

[SJSoane]

 

Alexandru,  It is great to see this again. Beautiful work!

 

Mark

[guraus]

Did a bit of work on my Victory these last two weeks and here are the progress pictures.

 

[guraus]

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[gjdale]

Impeccable work as always Alexandru - just outstanding!

[guraus]

I didn't post for a while now but now I do have several things to show.

 

First is my last acquisition: the Model Machines ropewalk. Go it last weekend and give it a try run. I like the workmanship put by Jim Byrnes into it and the ease of installation, use and maintenance (there is no maintenance required  ) So far I managed do make some rope let's say of fair quality but I am not completely happy with it. The documentation that came with the machine specify that the quality of the rope is proportional with the skill of the user and that this skill is acquired by repetition - I am not there yet - as the user has to wind the rope "takeout" spool which applies the tension on the rope and this impacts the quality. 

What I like is that you can do any length of rope without needing lots of space the limit being hon how much thread you can wind on the three supply spools than the length of your room.

What I only discovered after I received the machine is that the diameter of the rope you can make is limited by the holes in the supply spools unwinding mechanism which is about 2-3mm so no chance doing the anchor cables for my Victory on this machine.

 

I made 3 strands rope and then use it to make even thicker rope - this one looks better than the initial one. did a couple of more try with 4 strands, thicker strands, different colour etc. You can see the results in the last 3 pictures.  In the last one  from right to left there are:

• 3 strands with different colour - wanted to see if there is more tension on one of them - not conclusive.
• 4 strands - 3 turned around a forth one of same type
• 3 strands but from thicker yarn
• 3 strands of the first produced rope (picture 5) - I think this will pass again through the machine to produce a cable of 27 strands but that's it as afterward it will be to thick.

I will have to play with it a bit more with different kind of yarn - I just tried with what I had and I don't even know if is cotton or synthetic or a mix.

 

The problem I have can best be seen in the last picture second rope from the left. If one closely look at it and at its shadow on the red paper you will notice that in the middle is nice and uniform but above and bellow looks like one of the strands is turned around the other two differently - and this repeats at regular intervals like the machine (or me?) is not turning round.

 

[guraus]

Now on a different topic, I did a little bit of progress on my main deck framing - installed 3 more beams.

[guraus]

And the as I wanted to have more variation in my work I decided to fix an issue that keep bothering me for a while now. As you can see from the first two pictures the third or upper whale has a very "unnatural" curve in the fore side starting from the forth gun port, and should have been more like the red line I draw on the pictures.

 

The problem was created by the fact that I went all the way up to the stem in the front with 5 rows of planking between the middle and upper wale but at the front the frames are smaller so I should have tapered the five rows - but I didn't  and this forced the upper wale up.

 

I was surprised how well the planking was glued in place - I had real difficulties to tear it apart and it went down only in very small pieces. Then I had to remove all the brass pins that were simulating the nails and remove the dry glue left behind. 

 

 

 

[guraus]

I managed to put back the 5 rows (of tapered planks this time) as you can see in the pictures and I will continue with the wale and the rest next weekend.

 

[Jim Lad]

A brave move, but I bet you feel a lot happier now that you've done it, Alexandru!

 

John

[gjdale]

Wow,

 

That's a bold move Alexandru, but as John says, no doubt you'll be a lot more happy with it now.

[mtaylor]

Alexandru,

 

Thanks for posting this.  It shows us mere mortals that even what we perceive as major errors can be fixed.

[SJSoane]

 

Alexandru,

 

I have re-done a few things, and know how painful it is. But the new line for the wale looks much better!

 

Mark

[Fortres]

Hello, Alexandru!
I think that a problem with the location of whale on your model is not present.
you cut the first gun port low.

 

 

 

[norriro]

Alexandru.

I haven't been very active of late, but I continue to follow and admire your excellent work. I have a few comments on your latest post, which brings us back to the discussion you had recently on the forum on the subject of the beakhead, where you pointed out that McKay omitted the platform in his plans. This is in fact at a higher level than the middle deck, as shown in your excellent photos of the Victory at Portsmouth. This is also shown clearly on Bugler's profile plan. Bugler also shows the top of the wale as going up to the level of the platform, with an upward curve, while the red line your drew on your model would appear to show that you intend to plank wih less of a curve. Another good reference on this subjet is McGowan's plank expansion plan, which shows all the planking from the wale upwards as fairly consistent in width with no apparent reduction as they curve around towards the stem . This is also the practice that David Antscherl shows in his external planking expansion (page 14-15) for the Swan Class Sloops. Hope this is useful!  

[norriro]

Alexandru

I hate to be the bearer of bad news. I've just seen Mark's comment about the fore middle deck ports. He may have a point: McGowan doesn't show any of the front ports cutting into the middle wale.

Bob