riverboat Posted June 7, 2014 Author #91 Posted June 7, 2014 Thanks Russ, will do. Frank Littlebob 1 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
popeye the sailor Posted June 8, 2014 #92 Posted June 8, 2014 nice to see you've started on the planking........you've progressed quite well....looks really nice riverboat 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
riverboat Posted June 8, 2014 Author #93 Posted June 8, 2014 thanks Popeye.... like I said earlier, I'm really liking the spiling , it's a little more time consuming but the planks lay real nice. Once I get the hang of it, it should move along a little faster. Frank popeye the sailor 1 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
mobbsie Posted June 8, 2014 #94 Posted June 8, 2014 Your making some good progress Frank, is she single or double planked mate, the reason I ask is that I see your using scale planks. Keep it up buddy, your doing great. Be Good mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :-
SawdustDave Posted June 8, 2014 #95 Posted June 8, 2014 Nice looking work Frank. Look ing really good mate. Dave Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com
riverboat Posted June 8, 2014 Author #96 Posted June 8, 2014 Mobbsie: ...... the kit's way is to double plank, but this is going to be a single planked hull. The frame set up is really not designed to accommodate scale planking, But, Russ has been giving me some good advice on how to handle this. He sent me a picture of a schooner's planking pattern that I think will work out real good . ( thanks Russ)... So stay tuned, I should be finished with this planking in another couple years !! :D Dave....... thanks for looking in, it's nice to have you on board, and thank you for your nice comment on the Supply. Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
Sjors Posted June 8, 2014 #97 Posted June 8, 2014 Frank, Then I have to wait for a couple of years to see pictures ????? But you are doing a great job ! riverboat 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Landlubber Mike Posted June 8, 2014 #98 Posted June 8, 2014 Hi Frank, coming along really nicely. I'll have to take a look at the spiling method of planking, looks like a good way to do it. riverboat 1 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
augie Posted June 8, 2014 #99 Posted June 8, 2014 What's a couple of years between friends. You can always post a picture of a California sunset. riverboat and Sjors 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
pete48 Posted June 8, 2014 #100 Posted June 8, 2014 Hi Frank, Very nice looking build you got going on here, Nice work Best Regards, Pete riverboat and popeye the sailor 2 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
Littlebob Posted June 9, 2014 #101 Posted June 9, 2014 Looking good Frank, spiling makes me sweat and makes my head hurt. riverboat 1 Quote
dgbot Posted June 9, 2014 #102 Posted June 9, 2014 Looking good Frank, spiling makes me sweat and makes my head hurt.Perhaps but the end result is always worth it.David Botton riverboat 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
Bindy Posted June 21, 2014 #103 Posted June 21, 2014 Hi Frank, Thank you for the photos and explanation of what you are doing with your "spilling". I really like the idea with the strings and tape, but also the tape and markings so you can see how the planks will curve and look before you actually do it (and then have to undo it hahaha) I can't wait to see your "Alert" with more planks! riverboat 1 Quote Completed Build: Bregante Il Leudo Merchant Launch - Mamoli - 1:72
riverboat Posted June 24, 2014 Author #104 Posted June 24, 2014 Well here we go again.... another UPDATE!!!!....... I think I left off showing the first two planks being set, I've made some progress since then, the first band is finished, port and starboard. Before I started to do the planking I had ordered some basswood sheets from National Balsa. While waiting for it to come in,I found a sheet of basswood that I had purchased from Michael's. ( 1/16thx 3 x24 ), so I thought I'd get a little head start before my main supply came in. Well my supply came in and I started up again, I had finished 3 rows before I notice that National Balsa's 1/16th and Michael's 1/16th were a little off, just enough to p--- you off, so out came the alcohol, the removal was easy enough, I'm glad I did it, it looks better ( to me) I think once the planking is finished and the hull is sanded some, It should look OK . Another nice thing about spiling is that there 's not much room for fillers. I've been beveling one side of each plank that butts up to the previous one so they get a nice tight fit. Following are some pictures of the progress. By the way I highly recommend the spiling method for planking. I don't know what took me so long to try it...... FEAR!!!! :D this is the second plank being fit on the first strake you could never get this shape by just bending the following just show planking to the end of the first band Well that's it for now folks..... Thanks for look'n in Frank Cap'n Rat Fink, jwvolz, DenPink and 24 others 27 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
dgbot Posted June 24, 2014 #105 Posted June 24, 2014 Nice planking so far. David B riverboat 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
russ Posted June 24, 2014 #106 Posted June 24, 2014 It looks like it is coming along. The line of the planks looks good. Nice work. Be careful to make sure you are getting everything shimmed so that the planks lay across the bulkheads without any dips. Check the last photo with the last plank on the second bulkhead. Might be the angle of the camera, but it looks like you might have a dip there. Russ riverboat 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
augie Posted June 24, 2014 #107 Posted June 24, 2014 Coming right along. I bet next you'll be getting a thickness sander to get all your wood uniform ! riverboat, mtaylor and Sjors 3 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
DenPink Posted June 24, 2014 #108 Posted June 24, 2014 Hi Frank Nice work on the planking Frank. See you are using the best wood glue. Denis. riverboat and Bindy 2 Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64
Landlubber Mike Posted June 24, 2014 #109 Posted June 24, 2014 Looking great Frank. Very tight and neat planking! Is this a single-planked hull or double? riverboat 1 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
riverboat Posted June 24, 2014 Author #110 Posted June 24, 2014 Dave B...... thanks Dave for your input, it's not perfect yet, but I'll get it down after a couple more dozen planks Hi Russ..... Glad you looked in, you're right.... there is a little dip there, tomorrow I'll loosen it and shim it some. I've been trying to watch that , I've had to shim a few bulkheads , that one slipped thru. Thanks for the heads up! Hey Augie...... thanks, .but no thanks on the thickness sander, I've got enough tools already that I don't ( know how to) use augie and edmay 2 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
riverboat Posted June 24, 2014 Author #111 Posted June 24, 2014 Hi Denis......... Yeah. I really like the Titebond, man it really sets up fast, no need to use ca, and it cleans up real good too. Thanks for look'n in. Hi Mike...... This is going to be a single planked hull. The kit supports a double planked hull. That's what's nice about the spiling, there is really no filler to speak of and all the planks fit properly, so there is really no need to plank it again ( I hope ). Thanks for stopping by. Frank Landlubber Mike 1 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
augie Posted June 24, 2014 #112 Posted June 24, 2014 I believe Chuck has stated that he sees no reason to double plank if you can get it right on the first layer. I was skeptical at first but have been moderately successful on two hulls and still have a sealed jar of filler to prove it. Of course if you are bent on going with some exotic wood (like burled Italian Elm) you might want to leave the double plank option open Landlubber Mike, SawdustDave, riverboat and 1 other 4 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Sjors Posted June 24, 2014 #113 Posted June 24, 2014 Nice planking Frank...... You can always ask Mobbsie how those tools are working I'm happy that you have an update before we go sailing....... riverboat 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
mobbsie Posted June 24, 2014 #114 Posted June 24, 2014 Hi Frank, That is looking real good mate, great looking hull shape but is the stern giving you any trouble, that's looks like a hell of a twist for those planks. Keep it up mate. Be Good mobbsie riverboat 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :-
popeye the sailor Posted June 24, 2014 #115 Posted June 24, 2014 looking really good Frank...got some nice lines going there I'm going to have to try the titebond.......I'm almost out of CA. Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
pete48 Posted June 24, 2014 #116 Posted June 24, 2014 The planking is looking good Frank, Nice job Best Regards, Pete Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
Landlubber Mike Posted June 24, 2014 #117 Posted June 24, 2014 Frank, I was going to say that with the nice results you're getting now, you probably only need to single plank it. Maybe I should try it to save on buying tubs of filler like Augie augie, DenPink, riverboat and 1 other 4 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
riverboat Posted June 24, 2014 Author #118 Posted June 24, 2014 Augie..... I'm confident enough that this will come out OK so I won't have to plank it again.I had purchased some boxwood strip from Jeff awhile back with the intention of using it on this build, but since I decided to try spiling I couldn't use it. I checked on the boxwood sheets and they are considerably more expensive than the bass sheets, so I'm staying with the basswood. I'm thinking a worn looking type wood hull down the road ,so the basswood will work out OK. maybe next time around I'll go for the more exotic wood. Sjors...... I have enough trouble using hand tools . Hoping you guys have a nice holiday together!! Have fun. "GO NETHERLANDS" Mobbsie...... It looks like there's a radical twist at the stern , but not really. The planks are laying real nice at the stern. Once they're shaped they sit good. Have a nice holiday with Sjors and Anja. Popeye...... Yeah, try the Titebond, I think you'll really like it. It sets fast, so the clamp time is very short. Ive been just holding the planks just with my fingers most of the time until it holds then I'll use some small clamps to set them a while longer. Pete..... Thanks for your comment Pete, appreciated !! To All The "Likes"...... Thanks to all of you for look'n in . I love the Likes !! Frank mtaylor, pete48 and augie 3 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
NAZGÛL Posted June 24, 2014 #119 Posted June 24, 2014 Nice planking Frank, looking forward to see more! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa
riverboat Posted June 24, 2014 Author #120 Posted June 24, 2014 Matti..... Thanks for stopping by, hoping to get a little more done today (maybe ) Mike....... Go for it....read Chucks tutorial... take lots of time lining off the hull... the money you save on filler will buy you another tool!!! :D Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
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