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... better ...

 

it is hot-dafi-stuff ;-)

 

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And once things move ...

 

... keep things moving :-)

 

Set up both second backstays ...

 

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... now just missing the breast backstay.

 

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And holy Impatience, wanted to see the anchors in place ...

 

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... the lead is thrown ...

 

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... and *enjoy*

 

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XXXDAn

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jeeze!   I hope my father's day is as good as your was  :)     simply awesome work............if I didn't know that it's a diorama.......I'd swear it was the real thing!   with all this detail.........your full ship build is going to be spectacular!  :)

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finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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In an earlier Version I still had added some lashings in between the lanyards as to be seen on todays Vic, Constitution and some literature. See the green arrows.

 

Was this in use already in 1805?

 

post-182-0-14061800-1401451697_thumb.jpg

 

Cheers, Daniel

 

 

PS: On the far right a very first version still using the oob yarn for the tests ;-)

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Thank you Robin!

 

Cheers, Daniel

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Old chaps never change ...

 

... already looking a long time at the gunport lid lanyards ...

 

... usually I tend to do the details a tad smaller than a tad too big ...

 

... but this time it was just a little bit toooooooo much under dimensioned, as I took the thinnest yarn ...

 

... first looking already much toooooo thin and then on top I got a big blop on the ring as it is too thin to do a decent splice ...

 

... and here we have mark 1 on the right and the new mark 2 on the left ...

 

Victory-140530_3639.jpg

 

... already looking better.

 

Victory-140530_3641.jpg

 

Just eleven more to replace ...

 

;-)

 

XXXDAn

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Incredible work, Daniel.. just incredible.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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it's the little detail that's the best ;)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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In an earlier Version I still had added some lashings in between the lanyards as to be seen on todays Vic, Constitution and some literature. See the green arrows.

 

Was this in use already in 1805?

 

attachicon.gif800_victory_deadeyes_0166.jpg

 

Cheers, Daniel

 

 

PS: On the far right a very first version still using the oob yarn for the tests ;-)

We all started liking the pic, as it is incredible that you do these lashings in this scale, but that's not an answer to your question.

I can only refer to Lees and Marqhuardt: they don't show these lashings. That does suggest that it is of a later period...

(although, as you seem to be looking at a way to get as many knots in a line as possible, that is not the answer you are looking for :) )

 

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... how do you know me ...

 

;-)

 

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it's the force..Daniel

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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It started with the unhappiness about a ball of glue ...

 

Victory-140601_3647.jpg

 

... but also the 2 cored 0,15 mm lanyard appeared too thin, was too unstable and did not allow a decent splice without breaking the material. 

 

The new 4 cored 0,2 mm looks much better and is easy to splice. That is why I went down the road again ...

 

... this was already shown, a blackend wire around a needel and cut open for the rings.

 

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To fix the rings I used two pointed pliers (less carpetmonster-danger than tweezers!) opened the ring and in the same go - without letting go - hooked into the eyebolt and closed it.

 

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Now I continued differently: Pierced the 4 cored lanyard with a sharpened needle ... 

 

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... pushed the needle through down to the eye, put the short end through the ring on the eyebolt ...

 

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... and then through the eye and pulled it through. Took the thread out of the needle to be more free, pierced the lanyard from the other side, pushed the needle in down to the eye, introduced the free end ...

 

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... and pulled again and the splice is done.

 

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Secured with a drop of glue, cut neatly and things are done.

 

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After taking down the old lanyards I realised that the old tube was stuck with glue and junk, inner Diameter smaller than 3 mm, but my smallest drill 3 mm and did not fit.

 

Victory-140601_3664.jpg

 

So I sanded a square point onto the drill which worked marvelously on the tiny tubes :-)

 

And things looked much less messy than before :-)

 

Victory-140601_3670.jpg

 

Some touch-ups on the paint will follow with time.

 

XXXDAn

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....and everyone thinks that third times the charm ;)   isn't it funny how,  you do something......it looks great.   a while later,  you look at it again,  and you see room for improvement.   it looks so much better Daniel........your paving a road for so many folks!   anyone who follows this build,  will surely take the correct paths ;)    nice!

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finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Thank you very much Popeye :-)

 

But if the paths are really correct ?!? I think everybody will have to decide for themselves :-)

 

The truth lies in the eye of the bebuilder ;-)

 

XXXDAn

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So, the good news first ...

 

... all the lanyards replaced :-)

 

While doing this I felt a bit observed untill I remembered a long forgotten detail :-)

 

Victory-140607_3740.jpg

 

XXXDAn

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Thank you Sörrs :-)

 

And @amateur ...

 

... what did I do now ? You are always expecting sooooooooo cruel things here to happen - unbelievable ;-)

 

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We don't expect cruelty.  Just the normal dafi-ness.  ;)  :)  :)

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Going Bananas ?

 

Going Bananas !

 

Going Bananas !!!

 

:-)

 

Bananas-140608_3764.jpg

 

XXXDAn

 

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holy cow!!!!!!.......and a floor show too :)   ....more wine!  ;)      I wonder what that sliver of material is for.........other than there is no rope on that tompion {cannon plug....I think I spelled it OK}.........no gun port lid {even though there isn't one on the one next to it},  or that there is no water shed roof over the port.....I'm keen to guess what you have in store  ;)   very nice work Daniel!

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Uh-oh.. a teeny-tiny banana peel and musical accompaniment.  As Chuckles the Clown used to say:  "A little song, a little dance.  A little seltzer in your pants." 

 

I think Popeye is dead-on... no rigols, no port lids and no lanyards.   Or there's something to do with the gentleman fiddling with the cannon.   The mystery deepens.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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One point goes to Popeye - because of asking for the rope. It is fitted by now :-)

 

XXXDAn

 

Two more hints - no pajamas involved and neither those gentlemen

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l924olE7ZJU

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if it's something to do with that port.......it's gotta be something good  ;)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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No port (nor rum) - the spirits are just allowed in the night time ;-)

 

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Just received two shipyard inspections right now.

 

One itzy-pitzy-teeny-weeny little tiny red spot with 6 legs and two antennas that was racing all over the model in such an incredible speed, that I couldn´t shoot it. The second one I got some nice shots off :-)

 

Victory-140609_3786.jpg

 

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Looks there were no complaints on the way the rigging was done as she (LADYbird) left without further remarks ...

 

XXDAn

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Thank you Jan! But this only was a deadly-horned-ridge-back-bug, 30 cm diameter. I thought it would eat me!

 

Who ever looked at the right hand corner of the ladybird pictures saw already my new ventures :-)

 

Right, it was time fore shake-rattle-and-roll!

 

To add a new shade to the old black-and white discussion, I would like to widen up the discussion. Classically the two colors for the british ships is a neutral pitch-black for the standing rigging or natural hemp for the running parts. As stockholm tar has a more brownish color, I already added a brown touch to my shrouds.

 

The contemporary literature mentions the ratlines as "tarred". Also the hammock netting and the cover over it is mentioned to be tarred. But does it mean that it was black? We had some interesting discussions in our german forum segelschiffsmodellbau.com with the remark, that it was also used to impregnate cloth to wear :-0

 

So I opted for a shade that is darker than the natural hemp but much lighter than the dark shrouds. So I mixed the two of them.

 

Victory-140607_3733.jpg

 

The thickness was already tested out quite a while ago and I found a thickness suitable for both looks and handling.

 

So I took my tart section and placed a template behind the shrouds - have a look at the shortened hair clips - my girly is gonna kill me ;-)

 

Victory-140607_3742.jpg

 

The template proved to be to thick in the lines, couldn´t see my lines properly ...

 

Victory-140607_3748.jpg

 

... so replaced it with a newer version where a filmsy line in an apart softgreen trhat proved to be more suitable. Also I used the hint not to rattle up (or better saying down) in one go, but to always half the distances to avoid the curving in of the outer shrouds. 

 

So it got slowly more and more full ...

 

Victory-140608_3749.jpg

 

... the backstays I did bend out of the way, there are rumors of modelers rattling them in also ...

 

Victory-140608_3750.jpg

 

The lower lines were tough, had to find a logical way to work my way through, remembering in which row they were done on the original. As the ratlines were the last items, so they had to go over everything.

But even this mess I managed to clear considerably :-)

 

And then comes the point of taking out the guiding template.

 

Victory-140608_3755.jpg

 

Still had to clear the half hitches of the outer shrouds and arrange the sagging ...

 

Victory-140609_3805.jpg

 

Victory-140609_3796.jpg

 

... and up they can go :-)

 

XXXDAn

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To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/

See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

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