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more superb work at that scale dafi, well done

Paul

The clerk of the cheque's yacht of sheerness

Current build HMS Sirius (1797) 1:48 scratch POF from NMM plans

HMS Winchelsea by chuck 1:48

Cutter cheerful by chuck 1:48

Previous builds-

Elidir - Thames steam barge

Cutty Sark-Billings boats

Wasa - billings boats

Among others 😁

 

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You're research is both meticulous and over the top.  And then applying to the model.  Fantastic work, Daniel.  

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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something amiss in the book?   I'm sure you'll find the true meaning...Iagree.....very interesting  ;)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Thank you Frank, Paul, Mark and Poppy :-)

 

Very appreciated!

 

XXXDAn

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See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

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As the great model maker meeting in Augsburg (near Munich) is approaching, I found it necessary to just knot some of the loose ends together.

 
The officer´s hammocks have been prepared already for a long time ...
 
Victory-hammocks_9486.jpg
 
... and some more petiteness like a small desk and a chair for Mr Rivers the gunner ...
 
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... some of the lumber to be seen on contemporary pictures: (under-)deck chairs and packages wrapped in sail cloth.
 
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And immediately we have some homeliness in the smallest confinements  ...
 
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Victory-gunroom_9596.jpg
 
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... and soon all is shipshape und Bristol fashion for coming Saturday in Augsburg :-)
 
Cheers, Daniel

To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/

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Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

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Up to your normal standard of work and research Dafi. Wonderful stuff.

 

By the way, mentioning Bristol, have you ever visited the place? If not it is well worth a look. Apart from Brunel's SS Great Britain there are other interesting places to see. I was based there for a while and was fascinated by the "nails" that still stand in Corn Street near the docks.

These were waist high pillars on which deals were struck over cargo and so on. They have given us all sorts of phrases about deals being "paid on the nail" or "nailing it".

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Current build: HMS Unicorn  (1748) - Corel Kit

 

Advice from my Grandfather to me. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who stand back and watch. The trick is not to repeat the error. 

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Always a treat to see your work, Daniel.  Have fun in Augsburg.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Thank you Ian for the good story :-)

 

Have been in Cornwall and Wales, Bristol not, was too much in the middle in between of that ;-)

 

Had a check on the nails:

https://www.google.de/search?q=bristol+nails&biw=1631&bih=1089&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwihpYruu7nLAhXoNpoKHbcOCtAQsAQIKQ

 

Also Wikipedia.com mentions them in "Bristol"

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Also thank you Mark and druxey!!!

 

Cheers, Daniel

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See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

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if you bring the Vic with you.........your gonna impress folks to be sure!  ;)    very nice update !

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Just being back from Augsburg, and I love Man staring at Goats Ships ...

 

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...hihihihihihihihihi...

 

It was marvelous, more than 70 people and about 50 models, and my small little plastic bug in between :-)

 

XXXDan 

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See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

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Dan,

Nicely done sir! I know your little plastic bug held up as well if not better than some of those woodies.

 

I noticed in the background of your 4th picture a Mataro Ship model. It just so happens that I am building an Imai Catalan Ship at this time. If you want to check it out at FSM, the link is:

 

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/163417.aspx

 

Steve

Current Build: Merit 1/48 Early Eco 80' PT Boat and Imai 1/50 Catalan Ship

Finished:

Revell 1/196 USS Constitution (My oldest son's school project)
Revell 1/72 Hanse Kogge
Revell 1/50 Viking Ship
Revell 1/72 U-Boat
Zvezda 1/72 English Medieval Ship Thomas

Revell 1/90 The Nina

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Thank you Steve, here is a better shot, together with its builder Helmut, 80 years by now  :-)

 

Augsburg-160312_9760.jpg

 

Augsburg-160312_9715.jpg

 

He knows the art of making plastic models in a way, that even being close, one believes it to be wood. Even I got tricked!

 

A very very lovely and kind guy he is :-)

 

XXXDAn

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See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html

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Just so.

 

I would have liked to have been there Daniel, but for my two Daughters not able to make that week.

 

Work comes first so they tell me!!!!. :) .

 

Very nice pictures and no wonder the interest in your ship, small compared to some there but so much to see below decks.

 

You must be very proud of your work, I know I would be in your shoes mate.

 

Looked a great show.

 

Frank. :piratebo5:

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What a pity you couldn´t make it, you would have loved it. There were some other english speaking guests present :-)

 

And I was caught in the act, taking the chance to get all the authorities present to have a small anchor workshop - experimental archeology.

 

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Thanks for archjofo for the picture!

 

XXXDAn

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See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html

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just so awesome Daniel!   you deserve every accolade given.......there is so much that you've put into her.   not just a model,  it's history  ;)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Do not make my flush, Popeye. It is just a bit of tinkering around :-)

 

XXXDan

To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/

See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html

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said as said Dr. D...........what was said about the goings on at the bow?  ;)  :D

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Daniel I noticed the beams on the victory above and wonder how you gave them the camber needed? They look like they are plastic beams and I am trying to work out the best way to bend them (from straight stock) on my Connie for the foreward portion of the spar deck.

 

...hoping you can come to my rescue with advice.

 

Dave

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Hello Dave,

 

if you mean the deck beams, they actually are wood :-)

 

Watered for some minutes and bent with the soldering iron - my girly did NOT allow her hot iron ;-) Worked very well an a once defined shape stays without suffering strain. The first ones that I applied "in the old days"were straight from straight stock and forced with force into the bow by the pillars and knees. 

                                          #1262                         

 

Plastic is a bit more tricky as it wants to go back into its original form (whatever it was even before being extruded) but you could try boiling water to bend it.

 

Cheers, Daniel

To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/

See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html

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Hello Popeye ...

 

...soon, sooooooooooon :-)

 

XXXDan

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See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

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Dafi - do you have Longbridge "The Anatomy Of Nelsons ships", if so can you please have a look at plate 43, My scanner is not working at present, 

 

however it seams that tjhat the lanyards for the chaser lids were controlled from the fore deck 

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Hello Kevin,

 

thank you, that is also a possible possibility :-)

 

Seen on smaller ships like Endeavor or on earlier ones as in the gallon´s time.

 

In the museum ship in P. the lanyard is led inwards - possibly by a lead tube - and the standard lanyard to hold it sits underneath the beams.

 

post-182-0-35765000-1458392704.jpg

 

But as the whole section is a complete rebuild from the 20ies with plenty of bugs, there are plenty of own interpretations possible.

 

:-)

 

XXXDAn

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agreed , but i have not seen a Victory build with the foredeck lanyards 

 

did you see plate 43?

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No as I am at the office, will look at it as soon as I am home :-)

 

XXXDAn

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See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

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Flashback ...

 

The night before Augsburg was a long one as I wanted to discuss all things anchor with the savants present there.

 

So I prepared all the ropes and bits and it was not too bad, but still many details laying in the obscure.

 

So this what was prepared and discussed, the overhaul with all the valuable hints that I got will be done soon :-)

 

So please excuse some sloppy ropes, that was still work in progress :-)

 

First the anchor hanging at the hawse, cat block is already lowered.

 

 Victory-anchortest1_9608.jpg

 

Victory-anchortest1_9609.jpg

 

Victory-anchortest1_9611.jpg

 

Then the cat block is to be hooked in ...

 

Victory-anchortest1_9615.jpg

 

Victory-anchortest1_9620.jpg

 

Anchor being towed up by the cat tackle 

 

Victory-anchortest1_9624.jpg

 

Victory-anchortest1_9626.jpg

 

The anchor is saved by a rope (name? german Perturleine), that is fixed the way it is in Portsmouth - many do think that  was a bad idea ;-)

 

I always wondered that the clamp has no roll to minimize chafing, but actually I realized, there is no movement, the rope is just used statically.

 

Victory-anchortest1_9627.jpg

 

Victory-anchortest1_9650.jpg

 

Victory-anchortest1_9651.jpg

 

Then the cat block is taken out, the anchor is hanging on the rope (that should go through the clamp, I forgot ...). The cat block is taken aside.

 

Victory-anchortest1_9632.jpg

 

Victory-anchortest1_9635.jpg

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The fishing hook is placed over the fluke ...

 

Victory-anchortest1_9641.jpg

 

Victory-anchortest1_9642.jpg

 

Victory-anchortest1_9639.jpg

 

... and if pulled up ends up automatically on the right place the small shoe underneath the channels :-)

 

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and secured with the chain and nicely stowed should look like this.

 

Victory-140830_5696.jpg

 

soon to be updated :-)

 

XXXDAn

 

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Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits.

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Hi Daniel

 

Great as ever!

 

Regards

Gerhard

Problems just mean: solutions not yet found

 

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Baby Bootlegger 1/10

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Swiss paddlesteamer RIGI 1848 1:50, after plans from the Verkehrshaus Zürich, rescaled to original length

Anchor tugboat BISON, 1:50, plans from VTH, scratch

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