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This is my plan on how many and where those redesigned stern frame pieces will be placed. I've also taken measurements on the width of the bulkheads at the gundeck level and I will be reshaping bulkheads P through R to accommodate. The green pieces are the stern timbers and the blue pieces are the beams to hold it all together at the gundeck level. The rest of this will be drawn up in written plans after I get the new stern in place and get the waterways in place.
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It's funny how the chain of events turned out with this. I don't usually measure things individually off of the plans to check on things like this. I will usually make copies of the plans for bulkheads and such and then cut the shapes out and apply these to the bulkheads to make sure the parts match up to the plans. I initially assumed that the plans would be right and the bulkheads could be off due to laser cutting errors. I didn't realize until one night I started looking things over and it became apparent that the bulkheads were now off because I had corrected them to the plans. LMAO!!!!! Live and learn...
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I had torn off the stern framing I had installed up to this point because it didn't look right. I figured out what I didn't like. The drawings I had (compliments of Russ) that were drawn by William Bass of Constitution's earliest decorations and configuration weren't drawn with the anticipation to adapting to Model Shipway's model. I took the drawings and crossed them with the drawings out of the AOTS book and decided that I was going make a hybrid of the two concepts and hand draw these into copies of my plans. Here's what I have so far. Please point out if what you think if you feel like commenting. There will be more drawings to come and I will gladly share these (when complete) with other forum members. The two pictures here show what I started with and what I came up with for the upright stern frame pieces if the frigate were cut down the center line.
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Just catching up on your log after my hiatus. Very nice work Augie!
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Bob, your Essex is looking great. The rigging is very sharp so far. I'm looking forward to seeing more!
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That is outstanding framing Ben. Count away; I'm anxious to see you add to an excellent hull.
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The detail work in incredible Tim. Outstanding work!
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George, the more the merrier! I'll probably be borrowing off of your log after you pass me up, LOL! Tim, glad you still have the patience to look in on this log. By the way, again I'll probably go with examples of other well known ships of the period (or use artistic license ), but you wouldn't happen to have any information on what color the interior of Connie was on her gundeck would you?
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Augie and Popeye, thanks for looking in guys. It's been a while so I'm chomping at the bit to get some real work accomplished. By the way, everything I have looked at online is showing deck planking without a margin plank and nibbing. I think I'm going to go with what I'm seeing and figure in a little artistic license as there isn't any 100% record of these details I'm sweating over.
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Nigel and John, thanks for looking in after such a long break. Here are a couple of photographs of work I completed today. The starboard timberheads and knightheads. This area isn't complete yet though. I also got most of the starboard gundeck waterway shaped and put in place. I had to tear apart the stern framing I had installed up to this point as the more I compared it to pictures the more it didn't look right. Back to the drawing board on that area.
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Okay, so the shipyward has reopened because it has cooled down considerably and I am now stuck inside during my free time. I will be posting an update later on tonight after I finish up with a couple of last pieces. Trust me it's not that big of an update. I'm writing this to hopefully trick some of our Constitution historians into divulging some information or thoughts on a deck planking plan. The instructions don't show a margin plank and in fact mention that nibbing is not needed on the decks. I find it odd though and wanted to see if anybody knew if this was the case early on for Constitution. I have studied Evan's decks on his model and I like the way it looks and history seems to support what he did with his interlocking planks. So, was there a margin plank and was the rest of the decking nibbed? Should I go with a three or four butt pattern? I'm still looking into online sources as I have exhausted what my books have.
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Looking good Tom. That sounds like a much easier method to placing nails.
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Tim, I'm just catching up on your Basilone. Outstanding work on her!
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Dale, that's an interesting thought about the manropes. If you write to the museum website you will receive an answer within a couple days. I had an answer within two days when I wrote in about the anchor hawsers. I do recall the instructions saying though that the manropes weren't present in 1812.
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Looks good Tom! The nails really add great detail and are a testament to your skill.
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Tom, your method for the interior bolts is absolutely genius. I'll be stealing that idea one of these days as well.
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