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With respect, gentlemen, this topic is not a discussion of copyright issues. Please limit replies in this thread to questions about how to properly address image licensing when sharing content to MSW.

The internet can be a wonderful place! It is especially wonderful if you are searching for images to add to a post at Model Ship World. You can find thousands of images of ships online!

 

BUT (and this is a big but) you probably don't own those images! And that means you can't simply add them willy-nilly to your content! Many images you find by doing an internet search are licensed, meaning there are rules that govern how the images may be used. If you violate the terms of the licensing agreement, you are breaking the law. If you share those images to MSW, you may even be placing MSW in legal jeopardy.

 

There is a way to determine whether you can share an image you find online, and it's pretty easy to do. I will demonstrate this for you here. Let's start with a Google search for HMS Victory. The search results look like this:

 

 

 

In the upper right corner of the results page, look for the "Tools" drop-down menu and click it.

 

 

 

This action opens a second toolbar, from which you should next select the  "Usage rights" drop-down menu.

 

 

 

This brings up a menu with three options:

 

• "Not filtered by license" shows all the results of a search. This is the default option.
• "Commercial & other licenses" typically means you're going to have to pay a fee to use the image. Images from stock image vendors such as Shutterstock and Alamy fall into this category, as do most other results.
• "Creative Commons licenses" is the option you want. Be prepared to see a greatly diminished set of results!

 

Clicking that option brings up only images that are generally okay for you to use, but with caveats, as I'll show you shortly. Note in this image that TWO of the first three results shown in the "not filtered" set are gone now!

 

 

 

At this point, you still have some homework to do -- you need to actually read the licensing terms and see what conditions you need to fulfill in order to use the image. Let's look at the first image on its Wikimedia page.

 

 

 

Scrolling down that page brings us to the licensing information, which says that you are free to share the work. Hooray!

 

 

But wait! Not so fast! Even for this shareable image there are conditions you must fulfill! For this image, you must "give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made."

 

 

What does that mean? That means you must cite your source, i.e., tell us where you obtained the photo. Here's what that looks like in a kit review I posted:

 

For comparison, let's go back to our search results, set the usage rights option to "Commercial & other licenses", and then click on one of the results from Alamy, a stock image vendor. We'll follow the links until we get to the image at Alamy's website.

 

 

 

 

There are two very important things to take notice of at the Alamy image page. The first is that the image is NOT free to use! If you want to use it, you have to pay $39 for the privilege.

 

 

 

 

The second important thing to take note of is that the image is watermarked. A watermark indicates that someone is claiming ownership of the image. After you pay Alamy the $39 fee, they will send you an unmarked copy of the image. See how that works? If you share a watermarked image to MSW, that's a dead giveaway that you didn't pay the fee!

 

 

 

 

Yes, it takes a bit more work to research usage rights, but you need to do it, because

• it's the honest and legal thing to do
• it helps ensure that our beloved forum doesn't end up in legal hot water
• and, probably most importantly for forum members, the staff will delete photos from your posts that they have determined violate usage rights!

 

Thanks for your cooperation!

Apologies, but I had to remove the photo from your post, since it was a licensed image from a stock photo site. Sorry!

One thing to be aware of with MK kits is that they only mostly fall together by themselves, but not totally. There are instances where parts don't fit as indicated in the instructions, usually as a result of error creep during the build, and some thought has to be given as to how to proceed. The keel veneers are one such instance. In the Step 46 inset, you can see that the bottom veneer, H22, is supposed to sit atop (i.e., directly beneath) the two side pieces, H21.

 

But there are problems with that suggestion. First, it doesn't match the construction sequence of the corresponding veneers on the stem. Second, on my particular build the side veneers overlapped the false keel too much, i.e., they stuck out too far, and laying the bottom piece atop them would have made that piece stand proud of the veneers on the stem. I had to choose between trimming the side pieces to allow the bottom piece to sit flush, or else trim the bottom piece to fit between the two side pieces. I chose the latter option, because it results in the exposed, thin sides of the veneers facing toward the bottom of the keel, where they won't be seen on the finished model.

 

Hope that all made sense.

 

Onward!

8 hours ago, Knocklouder said:

The kit cost $16.95 in 1968

 

Love the 60s-vintage clip art, too!

4 hours ago, Jim Lad said:

Nice to see some more of your lovely model

 

I never cease to be amazed by the size of Richard's model, even though I know what to expect when I open the log!

50 minutes ago, Captain.Jack.Sparrow said:

What do you guys think?

 

Totally up to you. Opinions on sails vs. no sails are usually evenly split.

Just a post to show that Phoenix is back on the bench! Working on getting some veneers done -- exciting, right?

 

1 hour ago, Wawona59 said:

Chris Coyle is hoping for the C.A. Thayer and John Newcome is hoping for the Wawona.

 

I've long been interested in the West Coast timbering trade, ever since I used to do field work in the redwood and Douglas fir forests of Humboldt and Mendocino Counties. Roads in that area remained primitive until well into the 20th century, as you probably know, so much of the timber produced in the region went by ship (milled lumber on the outward-bound voyage and general cargo on the return trip). I even did some work on lands once owned by Carson and Dolbeer -- that'd be the Dolbeer who invented the steam donkey, which I hope we will see an example of on Al's prototype. West Coast merchant sail was an extremely hazardous line of work, so this new kit should be a fine tribute to the men (and the occasional woman) who worked these vessels.

Nicely done, and congratulations!

Welcome aboard! RC lingo is Greek to me, but I hope you find the help you're looking for.

1 hour ago, AJohnson said:

Sad news, but we have this glorious catalogue of some of his work here on MSW to treasure.

 

Sad news indeed. Curious to see that the poster on the art forum had only a single example of James' work to share, but here at MSW we have dozens, if not hundreds. He was prolific, and he did very good work.

Great work!

I have the 1/96 version of this kit, so I'll be following along with interest. For those who may not know, Shipyard publishes several lines of kits. The most numerous series of kits are are printed in smaller scales, usually 1/96, and are your typical card kits, i.e., printed in color and with no parts pre-cut. A second line features some of those kits published with laser-cut parts. SaltyDog's kit is part of Shipyard's "laser cardboard" series (Polish to English translations include some odd wordings); these are normally 1/72 scale enlargements of one of their 1/96 scale kits, but with everything included to make the kits, such as laser-cut frames, spars, cordage, paint, etc. Curiously, the paper parts for these kits are not printed in color but instead must be painted, a kit feature that sort of defeats one of the key selling points of card models IMO. Nevertheless, they do include instructions on how to create simulated wood with paint, and the technique can be pulled off convincingly. To see some some examples of it, check out Clare Hess's build of HMS Wolf and modeller_masa's build of Papegojan.

Nicely done and very convincing!

The two kits are extremely similar in terms of design, materials, and skill level. I think the decision would rest on which subject appeals to you more.

Can you upload your photos directly to the forum? I can tell you that most members will not bother to open attached files -- especially in today's climate of IT security.

8 hours ago, ZhangRenWing said:

I noticed a lot of build logs of this ship have seemingly been abandoned and I aim to not be one of them.

 

I hope you achieve this goal! But it looks like your 'helper' may be plotting an untimely demise, perhaps? 😉

I don't even like touching up pre-cut gunports, so I can't imagine having to cut out an entire three-decker's worth. 😬

The Big Reveal!

 

Well, just like that, she's done. A bunch of little details rounded out the construction: tail wheel (complex and over-engineered), arresting hook (which I chose to display stowed, since the plane is not landing on a carrier, obviously, but which makes the hook pretty much invisible on the finished model), propeller, radio mast and aerial, and pitot tube. The kit includes parts for a drop tank, but I prefer to display my models configured 'clean', and the tank includes two petal structures (yuck!). The propeller was a bit of a headache, consisting of a separate hub and three blades. The hub, which is actually an A6M2 hub and not an A6M5 version (hopefully no one will notice the slight difference in shape), was not drilled for a shaft. I did not have any wire or rod that fit snugly in the pre-drilled engine, so I had to glue a piece of wire rod into the hub and then wrap it with some paper and CA to get the proper diameter. The three holes in the hub for the blades were also not all the same depth, so I had to cut down the shafts on two of the blades. 

 

Here are the completed pics -- hope you enjoy!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After a break of a few days, it was back to work on the main gear. Here's a shot to give you an idea of just how much work that entailed:

 

Not surprisingly, the work required several sessions, but it's now done.

Another very realistic-looking masterpiece, Greg!

Filling and sanding works wonders!

5 hours ago, Derek Spain said:

My father was gifted a model ship sometime in the early 70's by my uncle who was serving in Germany.

 

Hi, Derek. That sort of introduction strongly suggests that your model is an example of a mass-produced decor model. For more information, click here.

 

Cheers!

A charming result and imaginative display!