ccoyle

1 hour ago, SaltyDog said:

It's a little too shiny for my taste, so I 'm thinking of ways to weather it a little bit.

Is it copper tape? If you clean it properly, it should take on a nice patina of its own over time.

Welcome aboard!

Finished installing the eyebolts, cleats, and pin rails along the inner bulwarks.

I'm skipping around a bit compared to the construction sequence provided in the instructions. The rudder was supposed to be the next assembly, but I have no intention of hanging that until I'm ready to mount the hull to its pedestal (which I don't have yet). Rudders just beg to be knocked loose if they're hung too early.

29 minutes ago, Ferrus Manus said:

1. I have found Pinterest to be of great value as a way to find primary-source images regarding different types of ships. I have, on many occasions, seen Pinterest images used as research aids and posted on the forum, including by myself.  Is that okay, or permitted under Fair Use laws? Who, if anyone, needs to be asked permission or compensated? Are there any citation rules? 

 

2. If I purchase a copy of a book, am I free to post self-taken images of a picture in my copy of the book on the forum, provided I already compensated the creator of the book and am using the materials for non-monetary purposes? 

 

P.S. It seems to me, under a very rudimentary understanding of the concept of Fair Use, that most of the copyrighted materials that would be posted to MSW fall under Fair Use laws, because they are used for research and scholarly purposes, and are not used for any kind of financial gain. Am I correct in this assumption? Or is there something I'm missing? 

1. Pinterest users upload their own content and are responsible for abiding by copyright laws. Unfortunately, like many third-party sites, Pinterest will only go after IP infringement if the property's original owner files a take-down notice. I suspect that the world is awash in IP owners who are completely unaware that their content has been shared to Pinterest. If you share content from Pinterest to another site, such as MSW, you are responsible to make sure you have the legal right to do so. Bear in mind that Pinterest content consists mainly of images, and sharing an image constitutes sharing an entire creative work, which is not protected by fair use. For more, see https://policy.pinterest.com/en/copyright .
2. Fair use is evaluated on a case-by-case basis, based on how much of the original work has been shared and for what purpose. MSW users are very unlikely to ever share so much of a book that it risks being an infringement, but pictures in a book are usually owned by somebody, often somebody other than the author, and the images themselves may be subject to restrictions on their reproduction and distribution. It's up to you to know before you share. Hint: If you want to discuss some element in a photo, use a snipping tool to only show the portion you wish to discuss rather than the entire image.

The operative word in your last paragraph is "most." Yes, most copyrighted materials shared at MSW fall within the limits of fair use. But we also have a few members who don't give much thought to the matter and simply share material with reckless abandon. Most of those potential infringements will stay under the radar, and many IP owners do not have the resources to go after IP infringers. It's largely a matter of self-policing, and your MSW staff appreciates any and all efforts by members to play by the rules.

Cheers!

My maternal grandmother was raised in Huron, South Dakota. I'm told that the local pronunciation rhymes with "urine." 🤔

Welcome aboard!

3 hours ago, TheFace said:

I then quickly realized that the majority of airplane modeling was spent during the finishing process.

This is one reason why I build card models.

Cheers!

Beautiful work!

57 minutes ago, Cathead said:

the reason I got involved in this particular theme was that one of the earlier kit images you showed had what sure looked like the wrong Cyrillic letter

I think that was just Russian being written with a Greek accent. 🤫

1 hour ago, halvoric said:

Thank you Tim!  High praise indeed! 

And well-deserved!

13 hours ago, Pastor Wes said:

I was at the home supply store that rhymes with Goes. 
I found a piece of 1/2” birch plywood that was delaminating. 
The store practically gave me the piece.

I brought it home and cut two bulwark pieces. 

Determination and ingenuity are a modeler's best friends!

2 hours ago, Cathead said:

Yep, THAT'S the correct Cyrillic!

Which is good, cuz the designers are Russians, so one would hope that they are familiar with their native tongue!

On the flip side, there are plenty of native English speakers who ain't so good at readin' and writin' their Muttersprache! 😬

George,

Not trying to shirk your question, but copyright law has been discussed elsewhere on the forum. You can find some of these discussions here. Also, since you are a resident of the UK, I cannot be too dogmatic about the rules, since some of the finer points of copyright law may differ on your side of the pond. You can likely find the answers you're looking for at https://www.gov.uk/copyright.

Cheers!

23 minutes ago, Keith Black said:

This would be a better topic discussed in the Nautical/Naval History section of the forum.

No need. I think the two gentlemen have each made their point as far as this build is concerned.

On 6/28/2025 at 10:02 PM, ccoyle said:

 It doesn't. As far as I can find so far (unless I overlooked it somewhere), the regular kit had the name as part of the PE stern detailing, but the deluxe kit has nothing. I had already been thinking about how I'm going to tackle that issue. Looking ahead to the possibility of painting the name, I had already used Google Translate to make a copy of the name in Russian, with Cyrillic characters. But thanks for checking! 😉

Well, guess what? I found the brass name plate, so I won't have to make one from scratch. Whew!!

BTW, in that same photo you can see one of the kit's PE eyebolts. I do not like them, because they are flat and therefore have a rectangular cross-section instead of round. The drill bits used to make pilot holes are of course round, so that's a problem. I prefer to make my own eyebolts.

I also needed to make up a batch of ringbolts, which means I needed to whip up a batch of split rings. Tiny split rings. I went to Hobby Lobby last night and picked up a pair of jeweler's side cutters, which have narrower tips than the usual variety. I wrapped some fine wire around a beading needle (also from Hobby Lobby and a very handy tool), then cut it into rings with the side cutters. I made up 14 ringbolts in almost no time at all.

That's all for now!

1 hour ago, alross2 said:

Just for giggles... WYOMING and the West Coast Lumber Schooner - same scale (1/96)

To be fair, Wyoming would have had a tough time getting in and out of the harbors at Arena Cove, Greenwood, Albion, Little River, Mendocino, Caspar, Noyo, Port Kenyon, etc. 😉

Well done, Jeff! 

2 hours ago, GrandpaPhil said:

I have been coating both sides of a card model with sealant (the generic Folk Art variety from Hobby Lobby or Michael’s) prior to cutting anything out.

 

That saves a LOT of aggravation with small/intricate parts delaminating.

I actually go the opposite route and purposely delaminate most rolled parts. For print-it-yourself kits, you can simply print the parts on 20# bond. For printed kits, which are my preference these days, you can remove most of the layers before rolling.

No modeling until at least October, eh? Courage, man!

I think this is about as good as it's gonna get. I also decided that Catherine the Great was likely the kind of sovereign who would've liked her royal monogram gilded.

I tried a different color palette on the left side. I like that side better, and the wife agrees 

Playing around with spicing up the stern carvings. What do you think? 

1 hour ago, Cathead said:

What does the lettering look like in your kit?

 It doesn't. As far as I can find so far (unless I overlooked it somewhere), the regular kit had the name as part of the PE stern detailing, but the deluxe kit has nothing. I had already been thinking about how I'm going to tackle that issue. Looking ahead to the possibility of painting the name, I had already used Google Translate to make a copy of the name in Russian, with Cyrillic characters. But thanks for checking! 😉

1 minute ago, tmj said:

Have you ever considered using shellac as a clear coat?

Nope. Never used the stuff. Wouldn't know what to do with it.

So anyways, back to the carvings. I found a color at Hobby Lobby that I think will do. This is the stern piece in a test fit -- the piece still needs work.

But lo and behold! This is what the piece is supposed to look like:

And these are the quarter badges pictured along with the version shown in the instructions:

Now mind you, I think the pieces in the deluxe kit look better than those in the original kit -- but I'm not certain they're a more accurate representation of whatever was on the real Phoenix.  It's possible that both are equally speculative. What I do think is certain is that the monogram E on the deluxe piece stands for Ekaterina, i.e., Catherine the Great, who reigned from 1762 to 1796. I don't intend to fret much about the accuracy of the pieces and will just  forge ahead and use them.

I got the bits of molding along the outer bulwarks added.

I then set about adding some clear semi-gloss polyacrylic to the hull, and things got a little dicey. Most of the first coat went nicely, but then the polyacrylic acted as a solvent on the paint on the wales, leaving several smudges. So first I had to clean that up. Then I sprayed the entire hull with matte clear spray to hopefully seal all the existing paint. While that was drying, I worked on painting some of the hull ornamentation. Moving on to the second coat of polyacrylic, the matte clear had done its job of sealing stuff, but somehow I had managed to get a couple of dabs of the ornaments colors on my freshly painted hull. 😡 So, I had to clean that off before proceeding. Finally got it all done.

Now I'm not 100% happy with the tone of the 'orange ochre' paint I had on hand for painting the aft carvings. I made several attempts to mix up a batch -- each ended in abject failure. I will probably dash off to Hobby Lobby to see if I can't find something.

BTW, while painting the various carvings, I noticed that they are completely different from the pieces used on the prototype model and shown on the box art. More on that later.

Beautiful! She needs a little fish oil rubbed about on her now. 😉

2 hours ago, MikeR said:

Does model ship builder have any rules about people taking photos from other persons building log, and using them in their you-tube video.

From our guidelines:

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2 hours ago, Pastor Wes said:

It is an understatement to say that I have never done this before.

Don't fret too much about it. Kit design was pretty archaic back in 1982. You got the first planking done, and that's the biggest challenge for most beginners.