Seventynet
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It sure sounds like you have it in hand. The best article I came across on spiling (which in my case means the simplest) was called "planking the hull - a tutorial". I did quite a bit of spiling on my Victory but ended up using a slightly different kind of wood since the kit doesn't supply wider mansonia planks. So the experience was bittersweet. Best, Ian -
Rick, far from me a first time builder to give advice, and I don't know how realistic this advice is for your particular build, but the solution to severe twists is to spile. You seem to have mentioned that in your last post but since you did not mention the need to start with wider planks to make spiling possible I am not sure you are doing it. It is really amazing how a plank will fit in 3 dimensions once it has been spiled. Since I am taking the risk of telling you something you don't already know, I will now shut up. But if you do want more information on the technique to use let me know and I can point you to some good sources. Best, Ian
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Just discovered your Victory Nick. Looks great. You've given me some excellent tips and lots of things to think about for sure. I will be following the rest of your build with interest. I'm way behind you on mine. Best, Ian
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Thanks for the likes Ken, Mike and Dimitris. Arthur you have turned me into a hardened scraper for life! It really is a superior method for surface preparation. I bought a cheap plastic holder from Stanley and a box of blades. Shihawk you are right the wood does take on different character depending on the light. See my pictures below. Can I ask for those in the know; should I seal the planking now? I won't likely finish the port side for 3 months given my various plans and typical snail-like pace. I am thinking that I'd use minwax wipe-on poly. My main concern would be whether that would limit the adhesives I might use if I do go ahead and copper. Best, Ian
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All the best Brian. It's funny how less shipyard work is good for some of our health problems and yet for others, present company included, more shipyard work is the solution. Ian
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Thanks a lot Don. I'm really not sure that masonia wood deserves to be shown off. I'll reserve judgement until I sand or scrape to a finer surface. Speaking of which I will look into scraping as an alternative to sanding Arthur, but I actually know nothing of scraping. I'll have to do a bit of research on this site. Thanks, Ian Edit: Ok, I'm sold: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10704-do-you-use-a-scraper-in-shaping-instead-of-sanding/page-1#entry323292 I just need to figure out what tool to use...
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Thanks for the kind words Heinz, ZyXuz and David and the likes Dimitris, Ken, Arthur, Mort, Shihawk and others. Very much appreciated. I finished up the starboard side. Last plank installation below . Tomorrow I am going to cut the excess at the sternpost, fix a couple little issues, give it a sanding and then I'll be back. Best, Ian
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Georgeous Dimitris! Such nice work. Cheers, Ian
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What a great start to this model. If you don't mind I will pull up a chair and follow this build. Thanks, Ian
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I'm closing in on my starboard side second planking, at least from the middle gundeck down. We'll have to see whether a good sanding can improve the looks of this so-called "walnut" planking. But anyway, I think after the 481st plank I'm beginning to get the hang of it. Best, Ian
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I like your clamping solutions. Nice job! Ian
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Oh boy does this bring back memories. I grew up in the 60's and early 70's sailing a 24 foot sloop rigged (converted) cape cod cat that looked exactly like this (just a bit bigger). It was strip planked and leaked like a sieve for the first 24 hours after launching it every spring. My bud and I sailed it from Montreal down the St Lawrence and Richelieu River to Lake Champlain one summer. Very sorry to reminisce in your thread - but move over, I will be following your build Marcus and then copying it! Best, Ian
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Beautiful model and well deserved honour Brian. Best, Ian
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Thank you for the praise Dimitris although it is undeserved. I think the difference between a beginner and an expert is primarily the time it takes to figure out and do something. Anyway it sure is nice to see others follow my build and give me advice. Thanks again. Best, Ian
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What a lovely careful build Dimitris. I am going to follow this if you don't mind. Best, Ian
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Thanks for that answer Heinz. Then I will temporarily lay my keel to have something to butt up against and get a flush fit. I guess I will be then able to remove the keel to get a uniform sanding. Anyway thanks for the advice. I have 11 plank layers left on the starboard side and hence am just going to start from the keel to meet the rest of the planks. I think all of your solutions worked very well in spite of being out of sync with the instructions. I only wish I had your skills! Best, Ian
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Hi Heinz, In my humble, inexperienced opinion the carvings look just great. I don't think you should regret leaving them as they are if you decide to go that way. If you don't mind me switching gears for a moment, can I ask if you carved in a rabbet or groove into your keel and stern post for your second planking? I'm just about to start my keel batten. I see merit going with a flush planking to the keel (as I did at the stem but through lack of planning) because I might get better sanding access but might get a better fit if I install a rabbet. Just curious what you decided. Sorry to hijack your thread. Ian
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Don thanks so much for the tip on Mansonia. I shall visit my favorite store today. Ian Edit: Windsor Plywood (Calgary) say they haven't carried it for over 5 years - and talked to one of their buyers for me. They didn't appear too eager to hunt any down for me - probably when they learned how little I needed.
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Seventynet replied to bluenose2's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Great advice on this site Les: http://modelshipworldforum.com/ship-model-framing-and-planking-articles.php- 1 reply
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I can't take much more of this model and this great work before I order this model. I must complete one before I start another...I must complete one before I start another... Here's the 3-D site (you may have to navigate a bit to accept some terms): http://amatimodel.com/3d-revenge.php
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That's it and it reminded my of the 6th item - the chisels - another set of tools I use all the time. Somewhere along the line I'm going to have to learn how to sharpen these things... Ian
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Alan, that's a Veritas miniature low-angle block plane. High quality plane, Canadian company but marketed by Lee Valley. I bought a set of 6 planes (router plane, shoulder plane, block plane, spokesplane, edge plane and ??). I have only used the block plane for tapering planks. But I use it all the time.
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You're welcome Jazzchip. Let us know what you get and how it works. I imagine we all have different needs at different stages of our builds but it is interesting to see what vices rise to the top (no pun intended).
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