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Appreciate the note, but I use Lumberyard jig and plans, however replacing all wood with the one from Arkowood. See my whining in the first few pages of the log (page 2 and 3), there are clear photos, the conclusion is up to you. Lumberyard has a good inventory, but when ordering - please be super pedantic about what you need. Things like 1) Allowed amount and severity of defects in the wood you get 2) Finishing sanding grit. That was a bummer for me - I ordered a milled wood and got something so rough that needed thickness planer / sander or a lot of time wasted on tedious sanding. With a totally different thickness in the end 3) Wood type. I wanted "swiss pear and boxwood" - got a non-swiss (not kiln dried) pear for the frames, which has a different colour. Not saying this is better or worse, but it is definitely not something that I expected So, I guess, with all that precautions they could be used. However, there are many new suppliers - the famous one is Crown Timberyard that provides a dramatically different quality and no need for sanding / re-milling. Stuff is just perfect out of the box and looks exactly like you expect. Lumberyard have a much better selection of woods though, so if you have a tools to mill your own wood (or, at least, to thickness it) - they could be used for less popular woods bought in some rough form (sheets, billets). Sorry for getting that dirty laundry out, but with the lack of a proper "rating" system and such a limited amount of wood suppliers, guess it is better to share.
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Finally finished the transom. Last set of notches (aka "macro is brutal") Horizontal piece also got some of them, on a weird angles: Glued in, treenailed and masked for fairing: Fairing was easy, because the smooth curve of the transom allowed to use the plane: Faired. I made one mistake, one joint is too shallow, so can't fair this junction properly - the wood is too thin and will fall off Too late and painful to fix, decided to leave it as is. Eventually this will become a part of the quarter gallery, so it will be less visible: Put the oil on it (that was fun, so many surfaces to carefully oil and so many are crossing each other). Can't wait for it to dry, sorry for reflexes due to wet oil! Note that due to a different grain orientation, oil resulted in different colours for different groups of timbers. Light "along the grain", medium dark "diagonal grain" and very dark "cross grain". It is all made literally made of the same piece of wood, I promise! Wood is magic Not everything aligned as it should, but I started with a not very symmetrical transom, at least haven't made it worse. Will pay much more attention to the proper alignment in the next build! Now I am taking a short break - will shift attention to the jewellery box I promised to admiral, and then will come back to this log with a display case for the model. The model is far from being complete, but it does not stop from displaying it properly, and will definitely help to keep the dust off.
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Small note on treenails: I use the same method as you, and after some practice it works fairly ok. But it is more efficient to use a long strip of wood instead of a short ones - you spend roughly the same time per strip, but get much longer treenail material in the end Great log, thanks for posting!
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Wanted a featherboard for the table saw. Magswitch looked really good: https://www.amazon.com/Magswitch-Table-Feather-Universal-Model/dp/B001DSZ7EC But I forgot that my table top is aluminum, not iron. So magnets are not working on it So I bought this attachment, because I really liked the material (and it also includes all the hardware, bolts and knobs) https://www.amazon.com/Magswitch-Vertical-Featherboard-Attachment/dp/B006SJH0SW It was, obviously, too large for my saw, so I shortened it a bit, cutting off a long middle section and gluing the remaining parts with epoxy, reinforced with a wooden block inside the featherboard: After squaring and shortening the bolts, it was a perfect fit and it works like a charm:
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How do you use the spokeshaves in this hobby, if not a secret? They are designed to make some round and curved shapes, right? But I can hardly find parts in the model where a spokeshave can be used.. Or I totally miss the idea?
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Roger, these chisels are used a bit differently - shaving and cutting the wood with a finger pressure, not with the mallet. Due to their size, they are much easier to work with comparing to the full size chisels - which are just too long. I have both fullsize and miniature chisels, and haven't used the fullsize ones on the model for a while. Might be subjective though.
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Semi-offtopic: got a bit distracted from the build with an idea of doing some small-scale woodworking (jewerly boxes, that kind of stuff). Part of the plan is to also build a nice display case for the Cromwell. The model looks quite nice even when not finished, plus in the case it would be better protected from dust. Plus it is better to build a case while you have an itch to do it Ordered few boards of some basic hardwoods - walnut, cherry, maple. While the wood dealer is milling them to desired dimensions, took some small piece of scrap to practice with milling my own wood. This was a walnut from the edge of a trunk, with a bit of sapwood. Everything is sooo out of scale My tools are tiny. So I can only build tiny boxes. The piece I got was not square and not symmetrical. Obviously, I do not have a jointer, so squared it on a table saw. Of course, the saw is too small, so finished squaring with a plane. Which was also super small. That felt, hm, awkward for sure! Resawing this piece into planks on Proxxon bandsaw was just pathetic. Super slow even on a max speed and the sound was disgusting. The bandsaw was definitely not up to the task. But after passing it through planer the wood turned out to be beautiful. Very deep walnut pores and grain, but guess that is a feature? That contrast of sapwood and heartwood is striking, something I can use on some box to create a nice effect if matching the boards correctly. Walnut on stained white oak.. I turning into a wood junkie...
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From both: thank you for the comments, it is really nice! This weekend Daria asked me to find a time to build together, I was really happy she asked for it. Also, this time I tried to maintain a slower pace - the build sessions are supposed to be a moments of calm enjoyment, no rush. But it is harder with kid, since her attention span is quite short and she is typically rushing things. So trying to slow down Fiddly bits in the transom. It is funny that this kit build reached the same milestone (hull is ready, building transom) after 4-5 hours, while it took 2 years to get there with my main fully framed build Daria loves to think these are a pieces of the puzzle that can fit together. She might enjoy the Things Perfectly Fitting Into Other Things tumblr eventually Gluing the side timbers with some sort of filling blocks. Everything is carefully notched and well thought trough, this kit is great! Daria got the concept of "parallel alignment" and played a lot with parallel machinist clamp. Installation is tricky, but was fairly successful in the end: Transom is ready. There are some gaps, but I in this build it is better to make mistake instead of chasing perfect quality: (nevermind the glue, will clean it up when dry) Clamping was very tricky because transom is not square and not parallel, so I did it myself. So far, that kit is quite kid-friendly. Except the fact that every single part fits too tight and notches should be extended with a file. Bleh! I take all the nasty parts (filing, filing, filing, filing), and she gets all the fun parts (assembly, measurements, clamping). Not fair!
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Power Tools for a Fully Framed Build
Mike Y replied to ChrisLBren's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
hjx, it is much more fun to share the progress - please start the log while the project is not yet completed! I am sure lots of people would be interested in a CNC build. Even a tiny photos you attached look excellent! P.S: Chris, sorry for skewing your discussion! -
Bending with steam easily
Mike Y replied to a topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Hm, for me it works without any extra jigs - I bend pear even with 3-4mm thickness by simply: 1) Boil a full kettle of water 2) When it is done - open the lid and dip the piece into the boiling water while it is still boiling. Of course, it is super hot inside the kettle, so use tweezers to hold the wood piece 3) Wait 15-20 sec 4) Done! Take the piece out, bend and clamp to shape 5) Wash the kettle and pretend you never did it in a first place Super simple and no problems. Of course, it will be hard to do with long pieces, but super long pieces are typically out of scale anyway, right? I found that for best results it is important to dip when water is still boiling. Maybe it is all that air bubbles and vibration that helps to relax the wood fibers? Just a guess.. At least experimentally - it works better than just dipping in hot water when bubbles are gone, and much faster then using steam. -
Power Tools for a Fully Framed Build
Mike Y replied to ChrisLBren's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Hjx, that fully framed full-CNC model looks fantastic! Do you want to open a build log? Please please please! -
ancre Le Fleuron by juzek - 1:27
Mike Y replied to juzek's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
The wood stash looks like a golden treasure! Pun intended -
It actually looks very nice with that grain! Feels like that "flower growing through asphalt" pictures. Rough wood - and a gentle flower emerging through it With a proper backstory, this piece could be more interesting than something carved on a "proper" wood where grain is barely visible. And the pimple is a nice touch, not a thing to get rid of!
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ancre Le Fleuron by juzek - 1:27
Mike Y replied to juzek's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
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The log is not abandoned, just a very slow building due to an upcoming Christmas and everything related to it. Notches lined up: Whoopsie, forgot that wings are at an angle. Argh, redoing this piece again from scratch. Two curved things are in place, one to go and then I can fair it nice and flush:
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Eeeh, what? Already done? So quick? Your productivity is incredible, especially combined with the highest quality and careful planning and research. Bravo! Looking forward for the next project
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Mini Mill recommendations
Mike Y replied to StebbinsTim's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
1) Yes, lots of them, just look on the shaft diameter - anything between 1 and 3.2mm will fit 2) No problems, it can even handle aluminum. Just a matter to the cut depth. I am usually using it with hardwoods (pear and castello), they should be harder than plywood 3) The table surface dimensions is 7x21cm, do not have any experience with trying to fit larger pieces onto it. -
Mike: Progress was a bit slow because I got a bit sick, so no modelling due to the quarantine mode enforced at home. Assembling the transom. I have hard time figuring out what these parts are, because in the true spirit of POB kits this area is going to be fully planked and its internal structure is totally different from the real ships. Tricky part to fit, it has a dozen notches that need to be enlarged to fit properly. Lot of filing! Now it is a time to fair the hull! That goes easy, because parts are cut with a good precision, so fairing is truly minimal, everything fits perfectly. I was doing it only because Daria loves the process of turning rough hull into the smooth hull. Fairing was not really necessary. This part was lots of fun! Using compressor to get rid of the dust after fairing. Ended up playing with an air flow for a good 15 minutes Transom continued: Filing to ensure a good fit to the deck: I let Daria figure out the right way to clamp the transom to the hull, and she figured it out! Looks like a ship! Now it's time for important stuff!
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A Lorch Micro-Mill that never was ...
Mike Y replied to wefalck's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Wefalck, do you mind showing some pictures of a mill assembly? Have a hard time figuring out how that carefully machined parts fit together into a mill Each part is truly a model of its own! -
Mini Mill recommendations
Mike Y replied to StebbinsTim's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Agree with the rest, it is only a question of cost. If one can afford Sherline instead of Proxxon - there are very few reasons to advocate for Proxxon (well, maybe speed, but that's it). However, if cost is an issue, Proxxon seems to be on the level that is decent enough and problem-free. But may I respectfully disagree with this note about the cutters? The proxxon mill accepts cutters with the shaft diameter up to 3.2mm, so there are plenty of aftermarket bits that can fit into it. And even the proxxon cutters are quite strong and sharp, I abused them a lot and haven't managed to break even the 1mm one. I am talking about this cutter set: -
Mini Mill recommendations
Mike Y replied to StebbinsTim's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Tim, you made me blush One thing to keep in mind when making a decision. Bare mill is hardly usable, you need a basic set of accessories: 1) Clamps to fix parts flat to the table 2) Precision vice to fix parts square to the table 3) Basic set of sharp cutters 4) Rotary table (considered basic for our hobby, milling capstan / wheel / anything round-ish is less convenient without it). For Proxxon, #1 is included out of the box, and the rest will cost you $137. Together with the mill ($242), the whole package is $380, so roughly $400. Sherline plus similar pack of accessories would be roughly 2x-2.5x more. So if you look for just a "good enough" mill - MF70 should be ok and is used by a lot of great level modellers in Europe. I used it for a year already, and had zero issues with it, nothing I can presume as negative. Steady, reasonably quiet, precise! Well, maybe the wheels could have been a bit bigger... No maintenance really, I never needed to adjust / maintain / lubricate / tune anything in it after the initial setup. But no doubt that Sherline is a more "adult" mill, that have a better customisation possibilities. I am just whining because I can't afford it (slap 25% extra on it to get the european price of sherline).
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