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Wow.... I just don't get reactions like that - aren't the results we achieve able to speak for themselves? There are always going to be differences of opinion, and a thousand different ways to achieve a great result, heck there are probably still people that believe that plank on bulkhead is a blasphemous method of model ship building, it's just sad that anyone feels that their only recourse is to stop contributing, how does that promote the increase of knowledge or skill? Lou
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You must have a gifted 16 year old, if mine knew there was math involved in modeling I would never get them to take an interest in it! Lou
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Dang Bill just blow the stinkin plans up and take the measurements off them to the nearest 1/64 make some sawdust dude - even do overs are better than doing the math Just kiddin.... Looking forward to your BUILD!! Lou
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Brian, I know.... It was like a epihiny when I saw his model, just sets it "that much" above and beyond the stock kit.... Hope I can execute it like I envision it..... Lou
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Made the quarterdeck railings today, the supplied stanchions were only 5/16" and with the amount that they are recessed into the railings there was only about a 3/16" height difference between the top rail and the upper rail so I made some some 5/8" stanchions and that raised the railing to 3/8" which looks closer to the MS plans and at least gives some realistic fall protection to a sailor on the quarterdeck.... I also did not like the end grain of the walnut stanchions poking through the railing so I "capped" the upper rail with some bubinga stripwood that I had in my stash, also the top railings in this kit just "end" and the other renditions I have seen have a angled piece going forward and ends in some scrollwork - I did the angle but I am hoping that one of you can point me to the best way to make that scrolled end piece - don't have permission from anyone to post their pic of it but maybe look at rafine's ms FA and you will see what I mean... Anyway here is some pics.....
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Were they easier or better ? I edited my post above with the same question, price vs performance?
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Chuck, how do you sharpen those various shaped chisels? Are you going to have a mini topic on that? Also would you recommend them over the #11 blade? Can they do "more or better" if you know what I mean - kinda pricy if they don't do a much better job..... Lou
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Ooohhh this is going to be great.... The last Great Hurdle to becoming a great shipwright..... I am anxiously awaiting your carving tutorial after you read all of these advanced articles and resources and come up with a technique that the average joe can master! I don't know if it is appropriate but I remember seeing some pretty cool numbering techniques by William Romero in his Fubbs practicums I think. Seemed like a logical approach to carving but that might be because I have never attempted carving anything (yet!) Lou
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Chuck, I have been checking out your rigging since Syren, and comparing those contemporary model masters to your latest work I do hereby declare you the title of "Rigging Master" although I will admit that I am not an authority so that may not mean much - but I like to think I have a "pretty good" eye! Do you think that some where in the future some ship modeler is going to reference your builds and use it as justification to do what they are doing? I do!!
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Well I redid the planking on the quarterdeck bulkhead transition area, I thought Greg was right, just did not look correct to continue the deck planking there - I like it much better, thanks for the input!! Here is a front and rear view....
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Robin, Mike and Don,Thanks for the kind words and likes - Mike, do you have a log or pics of your AVS? Special thanks to you Bob, your MS Fair American was a big part of the inspiration to fully rig mine, when I was researching MSW examples of completed models. Compliments from the likes of you and Greg inspire confidence, I know you guys have a discerning eye and an abundance of talent! Greg, that continuation puzzled me as well, I know there should be a panel bulkhead there and I was going to attempt a frame outline of sorts but that panel is also the aft mount for the ships wheel so it might need to be flush. Since the rest of that bulkhead will be missing to leave that area open to the cabin area I think mr. Hunt just simplified the mounting area. It is mostly hidden after the wheel is installed but I am open to any suggestions for improvement. Thanks for that link to that beautiful FA! There are more than a few rigging hints, I like the ships boat and I have not decided whether or not to do the quarterdeck railing more realistically, the LSS version is just a straight top rail, no curved framing or gunport? framing.....
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Dave, I started my build log, it's here: topic/14394-fair-american-by-asat-lauck-street-shipyard-148-scale-craftseman-kit-with-full-rigging/ Thanks again for the motivational spark that got me going again, I'm excited to do another log on MSW.... Lou
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So, I am posting this log as a result of seeing the build log of DocBlake's Fair American in which he posted a reference showing this kit in full rig done by Mike Lonnecker - http://www.thenrg.org/resources/59-3%20NRJ%20%20Building%20Fair%20American%201789.pdf My build was about 90% complete until I saw his model and now I want to fully rig mine as well. So I guess I am back to around 60 - 70% complete. I have really enjoyed building this kit, it was my first POF attempt and I not only had fun but I learned a lot about POF building and am pretty confident that I could apply the same techniques to another subject and be successful. After deciding to rig her I needed to find some resources so I tried asking in the plans section for a set of the Model Shipways plans as they include the masting and rigging in1/48 but I didn't get any response but I have since located a set of plans and am eagerly awaiting their arrival. Until then I still have to do some railings and install the head rails and pin racks, channels, deck furniture and complete the stern. Here are some pics of her current state of construction, pretty much out of the box except for the aft cabin deck detail that I did to try my hand at doing inlay work.
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Power Tools for a Fully Framed Build
ASAT replied to ChrisLBren's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Chris, that is a good decision, I owned the MF-70 and to tell the truth, I rarely used it, the setup, alignment, test runs, mistakes etc. were so time consuming that it was just easier to do by hand with good chisels, knifes, pin vise, etc... I also sold my taig lathe after realizing how steep the learning curve is to be competent on a lathe, there are easier ways to do dowel tapering and accessories like cannon, dead eyes, belaying pins and other lathe products are readily available from high quality vendors and some are venturing into custom design and laser work. I guess I am just not a machinist. I am however in the market for a nice proxxon precision rotary tool though, much more versatile and multi purpose. Could even get an x-y table and stand if you wanted to mill with it and a few of their models have good bearing supported spindles to stand up to the side loads. Just another option.... Lou -
What are you conjuring up now Jason, If your Diana gets any better us mere mortals will never attempt her.... Perhaps something for the stern?
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Chris, I will definitely add that book to my library, and no matter who gets the credit for that approach, you have executed it marvelously well and will continue to be my inspiration for utilizing it. This is one of the cleanest confederacy's I have seen and really works well to display her unique lines and beauty. Just gorgeous!!! Lou
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Hi Dave, I have one of these about 75% complete, but now seeing Mike Lonnecker's full rig build I think I may have to add rigging as well... I am sure you are going to do an outstanding build here, I think I will tag along and maybe even start a log on my own completion..... This really is a nice kit, I really enjoyed building this one, really nice materials and Bob did a great job on the practicum as well. I almost feel like I could do a POF scratch build using these techniques. Great start!! Lou
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Very, very nice..... I love the pear/boxwood/black look...... I am calling it the ChrisLBren technique I may have to copy it on a model or two!
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Does any one have the pictures of Grandads Agamemnon build that was over on Shipmodeling.net before it closed down? I want to build a version using his wood layout and would love to see those pics again - not to mention it was a great build and shoud be displayed somewhere!!! Thanks, Lou
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Jason, Exellence in execution. Your penchant for craftsmanship is showing, your passion to grow and excel is obvious in the effort and results that you obtain. Thank you for demonstrating what is possible when desire, creativity and talent are combined. I am so ready to pull the trigger on this kit - I have visions of building her using ChrisLBren's Boxwood,Black and Pear technique that he used on his Confederacy. I think it would be a great alternative to paint and copper, although your rendition is among the finest I have seen...... That model on the AOTS cover has nothing on you so far bro...... Lou
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Where's the pork? How bout a pic of your smoker setup?
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Nigel, I have used yellowheart, it is very stiff, and a bear to sand and finish well. I have used Anigre in place of boxwood, it is a bit softer but holds an edge well and is much cheaper than pear..... it is almost the same color as castello boxwood as well.
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Dr. Per, please accept my apologies..... just having some fun with the Seinfeld reference..... Vanda Lay has been around for quite a while, I personally feel they are priced a bit high considering that the rotary tool is not included and for most milling, sawing and drilling needs there are better alternatives for my money. Sorry for side tracking your thread....
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Not that there's anything Wrong with that.....
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Looks like a Tele, what pickups do you use? Sweet BTW....
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