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  1. Wintergreen
    Since progress is painfully slow I thought I could post my way of planking. As with Windows operating system there are at least 3-4 other ways to accomplish the same, but this works for me. The upper 5-6 strakes are equal in width and to determine that width simply use a bit of tape. Mark where the sheer is and where last plank is. Use a proportional divider (or simply measure and divide the math way) set at number of strakes (5 in this case). Transfer dividend to paper and then on to divider of choice. I don't like the idea of using the prop divider as anything else than what it's aimed for therefore a sturdy divider is chosen. Mark each edge on bulkhead. Then repeat for all other bulkheads, or every other or just eyeball it. Depends on what accuracy you aim for. In my case I marked two more bulkheads and then eyeballed the rest. Tape again. Transfer marks from mould to tape. The orthogonal mark is where the plank should end. Trace marks and rough cut the plank. After some fiddling about to get accurate shape, use first plank as template for its mate on the other side. I wet the planks for less than a minute then clamp in place. Wait to dry and finally glue in place. Repeat. And some pictures to be a bit more graphical about it. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. Will post again when I think I have something to share or show. Enjoy your Saturday!
  2. Wintergreen
    What a good start to 2021! First a hard session on the bicycle trainer and then boat building 🙂 (Not to mention the American pancakes with crunchy peanut butter, bacon and maple syrup for lunch 😁) Thanks for the Likes also! Always good for the mind and spirit. Anyway, today I think I have found the key to a smooth clinker built hull. It appears that, at a specific angle the strake should appear straight leding in to stem or stern. At all other angles the strake is far from straight on the other hand. Pictures below will explain. IF the strakes are trimmed to appear straight leading in to stem or stern the shape falls into place, so to speak. 2nd attempt now has 6 strakes done. For comparison the 1st attempt is shown as well. 2nd attempt, straight line. Bow view. 1st attempt, not so straight. Stern view. From another angle, 2nd attempt. Bow view. And 1st attempt from another angle, appears not so different from 2nd attempt. Bow view. And finally side by side. Sorry for the focus on the 4x4 in the background... Quite different looking hulls from this perspective. Stern view.
  3. Wintergreen
    Some more progress today. Two more strakes at each side. I found that if I could be a little patient it payed out to do and fit the planks in pairs. Well, constantly learning or finding small tricks along the way. And last picture for this side of new years. May 2021 come with less panic and more content! One could always make a pun about "to infinity and beyond" 😉 Happy New year everyone! A small note on the progress. I am not completely doen with the fourth strake shown in above image. Still need to eyeball the run at stem and stern. But the strakes basically meets the timbers where they're supposed to.
  4. Wintergreen
    I am too! The actual width of the planks at stem and stern are quite accurately scaled down from the original. The first is 11" and the 2nd is 15½" real world dimensions. In my model they are actually a little shy of those measurements. Subsequent planks will be wider midships and narrower at stem and stern as per the original. Still, it is a challenge to get it "right".
  5. Wintergreen
    Just read through this build log of yours. Quite a bit of thought has gone in to the build already with all the discussion of drafting in CAD and so on. I started a rather hefty project several years back but since I was not up for the task then the project stalled. But I still have all the work saved, so maybe one day. I like your serious approach to the drafting and building. It's a shame though that you can't mill your on lumber. A lot of challenges there I sense. Keep it up!
  6. Wintergreen
    Well executed rigging 🙂 Looks really "up to it" and one has to remind oneself that the hull is merely 165 mm in length!
  7. Wintergreen
    The boat will have 11 planks. Originally the lower 10 were out of pine and the topmost was in white oak. The boat you say Vaddoc? Of course! A couple of pictures from this summer when we sailed in Stockholm archipelago together with five other boats of same designer. Our boat is a OE36 from 1980. We've had it since aug 2015 and are only 2nd owner. For those who know boats it bears a resemblance with the first Swan 36. Why so you may wonder? OE stands for Olle Enderlein, a Swedish yacht designer in his prime from 1960:ies well into the 1980:ies. Olle studied yacht design at Sparksman & Stevens and Olin & co at S&S designed the Swan36 sometime in the 60:ies. Olle carried S&S ideas with him when he designed the OE36 1968. Around 150 OE36 were built from 1969 to 1982:ish. Ours is no 117. No modelling today since I've been at said boat to fix things.
  8. Wintergreen
    Very good use of that garage! Impressive set up Gary. 🙂
  9. Wintergreen
    Guys, thanks for the encouragement! Much appreciated 🙂 You are all very polite also... in my previous post I mentioned my "big" blue water sailboat. Not being used to the imperial notations I got the quotes wrong. 36" = 3 feet is not very big 😮 of course it should have read 36' (just above 11 metres). Well, cudos to you who didn't rub it in 🙂 There has actually been progress. In the first attempt 3 yrs ago I didn't get the run of the planks where I wanted. Back to the drawing board and mark out the runs, then another printout of the bulkheads. In this first picture you can se the template held in place and on it shady grey lines marking every strake. Consequently I marked every strake on every bulkhead. My pencil scribblings are not exact but at least somewhere close to where the planks should be. After a couple of days work I've managed to get the yard "busy". Only with modelling paraphernalia mind you 😉 A progress shot. The black rubber thingies are bicycling tubes spending there afterlife as hold-me-downs. The old rubber bands had gone bust but the glue was okay, though it required some heavy excavating of the nozzle. And this is where I end this post today with a couple of strakes in place. Carefully sanded to shape. At this stage it does not differ very much from my first try. Moment of truth will be three of fours strakes later. Cheers for now!
  10. Wintergreen
    Looks good. Question, will the frames overlap at the center line or will they meet butt end? With the cross beam the strength and stability will not be an issue of course.
  11. Wintergreen
    A Turbo Buzzr 3000 "XR" mind you?! Wow, nice toy there Mike. Also glad to see your back at the desk/building board 🙂 Keep it up!
  12. Wintergreen
    So, for what it's worth, here goes... During a return trip from my parents the Admiral and I talked about why I only seem to do small work during the holiday season every two or three years and not continually through the year? We pinpointed a couple of things, one - there is always something big to handle/renovate/build and two - most significant - my pathological inability to keep the "boat yard" sacred and free from stuff (be it paint tins, rags, general crap or whatever). So, now that most of the work is done on the big boat (aka my 36" blue water sailboat) and on the house, I decided to straighten myself up for the last shivering days of 2020 and on wards. Let me present "the Yard" after an hour or so cleaning and rubbing off old stains and varnish drops and all kind of goey stuff! But, and there is a small "but" - don't expect miracles, please.
  13. Wintergreen
    No, not a viking ship, long boat. Got it. 😉 The interesting thing is that the long boat heritage can be seen in traditional crafts/small boats into 20th century. Look at small boats from lake Vättern, "vättersnipa". See one example on this page (halfway down): https://blogg.ovedanielsson.se/category/category11/page/2/ Text in Swedish and no comment about age of that particular boat. My guess is that it's from early 20th century.
  14. Wintergreen
    Looks like good progress there Vaddoc! About frames being vertical and the keel not. That had me puzzled in the beginning as well when trying to understand line drawings. I think the point is that frames are orthogonal to the waterline, therefore they become vertical. Keep it up!
  15. Wintergreen
    Yes, planning ahead is never a waste of time 😉 We have that saying in my team at work, that we are doing work for future-me, because future-me will be thankful to present-me when future comes and that task is already prepared 🙂 Btw, I've always admired the viking long boats.
  16. Wintergreen
    Nice build Allan! Regarding those mast hoops, input any meme of choice about age and wisdom here 🙂 It's also a consolation for us mere mortals here that even the master builders sometime have to redo stuff. ...and suddenly the three years I've left my small craft in the cupboard doesn't seem so long.
  17. Wintergreen
    Very nice work there! I have a very small set standing besides Dana in the cabinet. Built some 35 yrs ago. I dear not to make them public here, haha.
  18. Wintergreen
    Nice subject bolin 🙂 Just had to pick a seat at the front row since you actually referred to my (stalled) build log in the beginning. The space/void between frames and planks are called limber holes (I think, can be wrong and that limber hole is only on carvel builds). Anyway, nice going.
  19. Wintergreen
    So clean a model after so many years, extraordinary to say the least. Nice job with the details!
  20. Wintergreen
    What allanyed said on previous page, and that schooner looks FAST 😉 Great build this far, keep it up!
  21. Wintergreen
    Hi David, That is not a very big model, or else your remote control is enormous... Well done this far!
  22. Wintergreen
    On a positive note for us bystanders, this log will hopefully continue for a long time still 😉 And on a more serious note, we really hope all your trials will end and that life will be sorted for you Remco. Take care!
  23. Wintergreen
    Very nice indeed!
  24. Wintergreen
    Those are some crazy (in a good sense) detailed yards you've lined up there. Always impressive work Ed, always.
  25. Wintergreen
    Sweden is a great place to live in 😉 But then I might be a little biased of course 😄

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