Baker Posted January 10, 2017 #361 Posted January 10, 2017 Normally I give your posts a "like This" . But your post N° 368 is the first one i should give a "dont like" . Ik zou zeggen kin omhoog borst vooruit en ... nieuwe blokken maken. Rome is ook niet op één dag gebouwd In English : I would say chin up chest forward and ... make new blocks. Rome was also not built in one day. Good luck with the new blocks ps, Actually, I also had to laugh a little first (sorry) Groetjes Greetings Robin Lous, cog, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
cog Posted January 10, 2017 #362 Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) You behaved very chivalrous, I don't know what I would have done if all my little bling blings (PE) would have vanished in thin air ... It is the easy way out to get them by order now though ... not even considering to make them a new ... you know: Practice makes perfect ... You could use some practice in preperation of your trireme, the other bireme, for you did make all those oars .... Cheers Edited January 10, 2017 by cog Robin Lous, Baker, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
donrobinson Posted January 10, 2017 #363 Posted January 10, 2017 Simple solution is.....buy seedless grapes cog, Baker, Mike Dowling and 3 others 6 Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus
Robin Lous Posted January 16, 2017 Author #364 Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) The wooden blocks arrived today! My more or less forced break didn't stop me from buying stuff left right and centre. More books...can't have enough books! Name plate and extra cannons for the Kolderstock Duyfken, drill bits and a resin ship's boat....also for the Duyfken. Last but not least...a "Keep calm and carry on" poster. For the fun of it and to remind myself of my shipyard duties. The wooden blocks are very nice, but I still need to shape them a bit to what I need. Bigger hole, they're a bit too thick, so I'll sand them down to the required thickness and I'll sand them to the teardrop shape I need. Probably more work then remake the lost ones from plastic sheet, but I guess plastic bits are frowned upon, so it's okey. Back on the job now! Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous CDW, mtaylor, Torbogdan and 5 others 8 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
*Hans* Posted March 9, 2017 #365 Posted March 9, 2017 Hey Robin, Didn't have a look at your Bireme build until now. Looking good. I made a Bireme as well for my son (ho studied archeology) and than started a scratch trireme in the same scale. This turned out to be a huge thing of about 1 meter length. Picture of how far I am now: WackoWolf, Robin Lous, CaptainSteve and 8 others 11 Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
Shiphile Posted March 23, 2017 #366 Posted March 23, 2017 Have read the complete thread to the last posting........now I set with baited breath to see the next photo of your build. I am about to start a Dusek Cog. I pray to the build Gods I do half as good of job as you have. You have mad skills my friend. Cheers Rick Nikiforos, Torbogdan, Robin Lous and 2 others 5
cog Posted March 24, 2017 #367 Posted March 24, 2017 Leef je nog bopper!?!?!? (still a live mate!?!?!?) Steve 12345, zoly99sask and Robin Lous 3 Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Torbogdan Posted May 26, 2017 #368 Posted May 26, 2017 How is it going with your beautiful Bireme? I´m waiting for an update! Long time, no see. I hope nothing has happened. EJ_L, Robin Lous and Rossi46 3 Built ships http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13384-the-pinta-by-torbogdan-dusek-shipmodels-172/ http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13673-hanse-kogge-by-torbogdan-dusek-ship-models/page-5#entry458535
moreplovac Posted August 27, 2017 #369 Posted August 27, 2017 Too bad pictures are not available... or it is just me? Robin Lous 1
CDW Posted August 27, 2017 #370 Posted August 27, 2017 Robin was bitten by the Photo Bucket ransom that requires a huge fee to be able to share your photos to a 3rd party (MSW). He hasn't posted in a while. Hope he is okay and everything. EJ_L and Robin Lous 2 Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
Robin Lous Posted September 19, 2017 Author #371 Posted September 19, 2017 Hello guys, Sorry about me being mia for a while. I had a "frustration break", I lost momentum when these blocks disappeared from my desk. It's also very sad what Photobucket did...I won't pay $400 per year to show my photo's on a forum, but it ruined this topic big time. I still have all the photo's of course, sadly not here anymore. It's back on my bench now, so...more soon! Robin hexnut, EJ_L, CaptainSteve and 1 other 4 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted September 19, 2017 Author #372 Posted September 19, 2017 I tried to edit my previous posts to add all the photo's again. That worked for the last couple of pages, but at some point it says I can't edit a post because it's too old. Such a pitty. When someone like to see older photo's...give me a shout and I'll show them in a new reply. Damn you Photobucket! cog, CDW and EJ_L 3 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
CDW Posted September 19, 2017 #373 Posted September 19, 2017 Glad to know you're okay, Robin. Great to see you back again. cog, Robin Lous and EJ_L 3 Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
Baker Posted September 19, 2017 #374 Posted September 19, 2017 Welcome back Robin. Groetjes cog, EJ_L and Robin Lous 3 Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
cog Posted September 19, 2017 #375 Posted September 19, 2017 Robin, Good to have you wandering in again. With reference to the missing pictures, you could make a composition of most previous (missing) pictures to show what you've done ... just an idea ... Looking forward to some progress, cheers mate EJ_L and Robin Lous 2 Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Torbogdan Posted September 19, 2017 #376 Posted September 19, 2017 welcome back! Never mind the pictures, they are just pictures. What is on your desk, in real life is what matters! Great build Robin Lous and EJ_L 2 Built ships http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13384-the-pinta-by-torbogdan-dusek-shipmodels-172/ http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13673-hanse-kogge-by-torbogdan-dusek-ship-models/page-5#entry458535
Robin Lous Posted September 19, 2017 Author #377 Posted September 19, 2017 Thanks guys! Apart from the photo's taken during my vacation last year on the first 2 pages and 2 others down the road all photos are back! Uploaded them to the forum and put them in the right posts (I hope)...I hate untidy topics! Was fun to read the whole thing again. Small ship on a long and exciting journey! Robin Torbogdan, EJ_L, cog and 1 other 4 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted September 20, 2017 Author #378 Posted September 20, 2017 A new plan de campagne...What's left to do? -The haunted blocks, I'll make them again and store them behind barbed wire and a minefield until I need them. - Attach the yard and do the rigging. -The 2 steering oars. -The ladder. -A temporary base to place the oars neatly. -Place the oars. -The ram. -Other stuff I can't think of right now. I presume it's best to start with a couple of fun jobs...the first will be the ram! The copper sheet after a year outside....after cleaning. It was completely covered under a thick layer of dirt. Nice natural patina! Well...here I go again! More soon! Robin EJ_L, cog, Torbogdan and 2 others 5 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cog Posted September 20, 2017 #379 Posted September 20, 2017 Don't you run the risk of getting that lovely coppery shine back on the ram once you start bending, and shaping ... Robin Lous and EJ_L 2 Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Robin Lous Posted September 20, 2017 Author #380 Posted September 20, 2017 Probably a bit, but it's fairly easy to stain copper with chemicals, so I can always create new or more weathering. The construction of the ram is very basic. I use this 1st century AD bireme ram found on the bottom of the Black Sea as an example. I'll clad the sides of the ram with copper sheet and a strip with folded sides like on this photo to cover the edge and tip of the ram. This simple (cheap and lightweight) design was probably most used on light ships....like mine. cog, EJ_L and John Allen 3 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted September 22, 2017 Author #381 Posted September 22, 2017 Even though I had this little monster sitting in front of me for ages...I never took notice of how small the ram actually is. It's just 3 centimeters long! So I grossly overcomplicated my ram construction plan. What I had in mind is plain silly for this tiny little ram! Yesterday I ordered a sheet of 0,2 mm thick bronze to replace the copper I have now. When I get it I cut a strip that goes over the ram from the bow to the keel and I'll clad the sides with it...that's it. Folding the edges...I skip that idea...the thing is just too small for that. I also ordered ammonium chloride to get that typical weathered bronze green patina, but maybe it's nicer to leave the bronze as it is. To be decided. So still nothing to show, but I found the missing photo's, so the topic is now tidy again. Robin Torbogdan, BIGMAC, Nikiforos and 1 other 4 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted September 29, 2017 Author #382 Posted September 29, 2017 Yesterday the admiral picked up the bronze sheet for me, but I sadly can't use it. Only 0,2 mm thick, but it's way to stiff too work with, so I'll use copper sheet. I cut the strip that goes over the ram and made a rough template to cut the sides. I make the ram slightly longer and give it a square tip. More soon! Robin Nikiforos 1 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted September 29, 2017 Author #383 Posted September 29, 2017 And...the template was a bad idea after all, because the root of the ram need to follow the shape of the bow. Forgot about that. So, a different approach... An oversized sheet of copper and shape it to match the bow...one side at the time. Glued in place...when the glue is set, I'll cut off the excess material and do the other side. This will take several hours, so I have the evening off. So far so good...and by the way... since the copper is so easy to bend and shape (0,15 mm thick), I'll make a new...wider...strip that goes over top and fold the edges after all. Robin Torbogdan, John Allen, EJ_L and 2 others 5 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
donrobinson Posted September 29, 2017 #384 Posted September 29, 2017 Clever idea, should look cool when done EJ_L and Robin Lous 2 Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus
Robin Lous Posted September 29, 2017 Author #385 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) Thanks Don! Started with cutting and filing the side of the ram.. Not finished, but it gives an idea about what I'm doing. Maybe this is interesting for those who like to use bronze, brass or copper... How to get the bronze green finish? Ammonium Chloride (NH4CL)...now that sounds toxic doesn't it? But you can actually eat it...sort of...at your own risk of course. It's used ...in the Netherlands...to make "salmiak"...some sort of wicked salty liquorice. But...to the point...it's fantastic stuff to get the bronze green patina. Mix with water until you get a muddy paste. cover the copper surface with it and let it rest for a couple of hours. Rinse with water, let it dry and voila...bronze green. When the effect is too much...you can rub it with a wet or dry tissue. Some testing and you'll see what can be done. I'll do that after I finished the construction.. Robin Edited September 29, 2017 by Robin Lous mtaylor, GrantGoodale, cog and 3 others 6 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted September 30, 2017 Author #386 Posted September 30, 2017 More ramming... Finished both sides and cut, filed and sanded into the shape of the ram. Made a wider strip to go over. Fixed the strip to the ram. I now must cut the corners of the strip to be able to fold the edges. Not sure how to fold it yet...I probably need to "micro hammer" it. We'll see. Robin EJ_L, Mirabell61, mtaylor and 2 others 5 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted September 30, 2017 Author #387 Posted September 30, 2017 Hammertime! Oh...that wasn't difficult. I made cuts on the corners with the PE micro saw (mentioned before) and started to fold with a wooden popsicle stick (also mentioned before somewhere). Finished the folding with my old X-Acto hammer with the round bit. Finished the ram...ex bronze green patina, but I do that later. When I do it now the patina will wear off, because the ram is a safe place to hold, without doing any damage. Keep in mind the ram is only 3 cm long. What's next? The steering oars and the ladder. More soon, Robin Nikiforos, EJ_L, mtaylor and 4 others 7 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
MESSIS Posted October 1, 2017 #388 Posted October 1, 2017 Robin do you know about this? EJ_L and Robin Lous 2
BLACK VIKING Posted October 1, 2017 #389 Posted October 1, 2017 Superb job Robin loving this build Martyn Robin Lous and EJ_L 2
Robin Lous Posted October 1, 2017 Author #390 Posted October 1, 2017 Thanks Martyn! @Messis...yes I do, it's the trieres ram found in the Mediterranean Sea near Israel. The ladder.. A Greek bireme without a ladder is like a Swiss cow without a cow bell. 1x2mm basswood and thinned down cocktail sticks. Ladder was used when the ship was beached. Attached to the railing when sailing. Steering oars are next. Robin Torbogdan, BLACK VIKING, mtaylor and 5 others 8 WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
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