Robin Lous Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share #421 Posted October 13, 2017 Little progress (but glad it's done). The 5 blocks in the top of the mast. Was a pain to attach the line running down from the mast to the tiny pin rail. And it was an outright nightmare to neatly loop the rest of the rope and make it look okeyish. 3 more lines will come down there when the yard goes on. Not looking forward to that, but I had a bit of practise doing this one, so ...uhm..pfff! But...before I do the yard, I'll make the rope railing on the outside. 6 (fairly short) stanchions per side...1 rope per side only. And again....I can take a good look at the Olkas. I can't thank Messis enough for the Olkas photo's! I must do this before the yard, because I have to drill small holes in the top of the frames to pin the stanchions. More soon, Robin glennreader, cog, EJ_L and 3 others 6 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 13, 2017 Share #422 Posted October 13, 2017 She is looking really nice - loving your build. OC. EJ_L, Robin Lous and cog 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share #423 Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) Thanks OC! After 8 hours on the shipyard I finished the last construction part of the build. The outer railing... I decided not to make the sun roof, because I think it won't make it any nicer. What's left to do is already pre fabricated. The yards with all the rigging attached to it, the oars and the steering oars. Oh..wait...I still need to make a base. Yard is next...more soon. Robin Edited October 13, 2017 by Robin Lous Daniel Dusek, Old Collingwood, cog and 6 others 9 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share #424 Posted October 14, 2017 The yard is fixed to the mast... 3 bloks involved. 1 on the yard and 2 on the mast. Like this... With so many lines involved, I'm not sure when to secure a rope to the pinrail. I'm afraid when I fix a line it might slack after I fixed the next...or next...or the one after that. I guess there's a lot to adjust later on. I keep the glue away until I know what will happen. And I have no clue what will happen. More soon...scary stuff this! Robin John Allen, EJ_L, *Hans* and 1 other 4 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted October 14, 2017 Share #425 Posted October 14, 2017 Nice Furled Sail!! EJ_L and Robin Lous 2 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share #426 Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) Thanks HOF Well...rigging... All the lines tied to the pinrails. I must now make nice looking bundles and loops of the rest of the lines. I also must find a way to get the 8 loose hanging lines underneath the sail to hang down and cut them to the right lenght after that. When done I need to make a work stand to get the oars at the same height. Oars soon...oh my...so looking forward to see the oars in place. And all the sudden I must start thinking about a next build...still undecided. Exciting! More soon, Robin Edited October 14, 2017 by Robin Lous Nikiforos, rafine, John Allen and 5 others 8 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 15, 2017 Share #427 Posted October 15, 2017 You cn switch between catapult mode and sailing mode Nice work Robin Old Collingwood, Mike Dowling, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted October 15, 2017 Share #428 Posted October 15, 2017 You're almost at the finish Robin. Beautiful bireme and great research work. Next a trireme?? Old Collingwood, EJ_L and Robin Lous 3 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share #429 Posted October 15, 2017 Thanks guys...it's either the Kolderstok Duyfken or the Dusek Trireme. Dunno yet, Robin EJ_L 1 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share #430 Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Busy week, so not much shipyard time until friday, but I couldn't resist to dry fit the oars on one side... More end of the week...still must do the "rope ends thing". I'll be happy when I can do that this weekend. Robin Edited October 15, 2017 by Robin Lous John Allen, Old Collingwood, EJ_L and 3 others 6 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 16, 2017 Share #431 Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Robin Lous said: Busy week, so not much shipyard time until friday, but I couldn't resist to dry fit the oars on one side... More end of the week...still must do the "rope ends thing". I'll be happy when I can do that this weekend. Robin OC Nikiforos, cog, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 16, 2017 Share #432 Posted October 16, 2017 Looking really nice robin - the oars really make her stand out. OC. Robin Lous, EJ_L and cog 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Hans* Posted October 16, 2017 Share #433 Posted October 16, 2017 Rigging is fun. Have a look at drawing 2 of the Duyfken - but be careful - it might be scary.... Robin Lous and EJ_L 2 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share #434 Posted October 16, 2017 Okey...I'll do the Duyfken. All your fault! EJ_L and Old Collingwood 2 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share #435 Posted October 17, 2017 Found shipyard time...a late nigther I'll probably regret tomorrow..ah well. Finished attaching the lines to the pin rails... And found a solution for the free hanging lines underneath the sail...pointing in all directions. Made a mixture of PVA wood glue and water and soaked the lines with it. Clamps and let dry... The result was nice...the lines were straight, but still not hanging down enough. Clamps on again and a tiny drop of CA glue on the lines just underneath the sail. Bending this stiff part of the lines with a tweezer until it looked ok. Not 100% straight down, but that's fine. Much better anyway...I think. Oars next! More soon, Robin John Allen, rafine, cog and 8 others 11 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share #436 Posted October 20, 2017 Well then...after a frantic week at work some days off now. And it started nicely with the arrival of the display case I ordered from http://www.sora-shop.com/ A nice affordable (€64 including p&p) plexiglass/acrylic made to measure display case. Two days from ordering to my doorstep. I think that's amazing! Made to measure in Germany...delivered in the Netherlands 2 days later! It's 50cm x 22cm x 22cm. I like it a lot! People might not like the presence of the (tiny) nuts and bolts, but I don't mind...it's the small price you pay for a DIY display case. Construction was idiot proof...I managed to do it! I'll use the 2 holes in the base (the 2 layers of acrylic bolted to eachother there) to make a stand. Will get some longer bolts and brass tube to slide over them. brass strips about 5mm wide and 5cm long on top of them. 2 sided tape and that's it. I have a minimalistic stand in mind....less is more. Now making the wooden base and jigs to attach the oars and I'm waiting for the thin lead foil (from Verlinden) to make the bags for the lower oars. I hope to receive this today. More soon, Robin Baker, John Allen, cog and 5 others 8 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappto Posted October 20, 2017 Share #437 Posted October 20, 2017 Wonderful piece of art, i like the case. Does the glass case attached to the glass floor? Robin Lous, cog, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted October 20, 2017 Share #438 Posted October 20, 2017 Very nice case for an even nicer ship! I'm too busy looking at the model to notice the bolts. Robin Lous and Old Collingwood 2 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share #439 Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Thanks guys! The base is made of 2 layers, so the case slides over the top layer and sits on the bottom layer. Can also choose a flush base or no base. And it's my lucky day...the lead foil just arrived also! I'll go on a hunt for the longer bolts and brass tubes now...oh..and some small transparent soft rubber feet (3M Bumpon). Robin Edited October 20, 2017 by Robin Lous cog, zappto and Old Collingwood 3 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted October 20, 2017 Share #440 Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) Very nice case Robin, I'm interested to see how you are going to use that foil. P.S. - If you go to your nearest Canadian Tire store you will be able to find the "transparent soft rubber feet", they have several different sizes Edited October 20, 2017 by donrobinson Old Collingwood and Robin Lous 2 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 20, 2017 Share #441 Posted October 20, 2017 Canadian Tire store in or near The Hague ... interesting. If you find one Robin, let me know, I'll come by and meet you for a drink Old Collingwood, John Allen and Robin Lous 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share #442 Posted October 20, 2017 Meh...I mean...in Dutch: transparante anti slip dopjes voor onder de kast...en hele kleintjes op de standaard, zodat de romp niet verschuift. I can show them tomorrow But, for now...I had to finish the display stand before I do the oars. When they're on...the ship will become an almost untouchable hedgehog. So better do it now....(warning...picture heavy explanation) Replaced the short bolt and nut holding the 2 slabs together with a brass 25 mm M4 bolt. A 5 mm brass tube...30mm long over the bolt...secured with 2 part epoxy glue. The "cradles" supporting the hull. Made of 2 layers of 0,4mm brass sheet. Two layers of thin sheet glued together makes it a stiff construction. A hole in the lower sheet to attach the 4mm tube that will slide into the 5mm tube on the base. Ready...some final bending needed to make it fit the bottom of the hull. My "less is more" stand finished. Oars next! (for real now lol) More soon, Robin EJ_L, cog, Barbossa and 6 others 9 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted October 20, 2017 Share #443 Posted October 20, 2017 Hi Robin, very nice display case. It gave me some idea for my Bireme.. I like the way you managed the "craddles". Last time i was in Breda, i though i saw a Canadian Tire there... No wait, my bad. It was a Starbucks.. EJ_L and Robin Lous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share #444 Posted October 21, 2017 I never thought attaching oars would be easy, but I had plenty of time to think about this....over a year by now. At some point I realised it's a must to build a jig for this. I want my oars to line up neatly without support, because I think that will look most spectacular. So, this is the result of scratching the back of my head for a year... Behold...."le jig". (that's French Canadian I think ) The ship is fixed so it can't move...at all...and made a support for the oars at the right height. With a top layer of foamboard, so I can pin the oar blades in an upright position. I'll do a dry fit with all the oars to see where they must end on the foamboard and mark the spots. This will result in a slightly curved line following the curve of the side of the ship...so not a straight line. I don't think I can do more to be well prepared, so tomorrow this final chapter begins. I hope it will end well...scary stuff. EJ_L, RichardG, Barbossa and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted October 21, 2017 Share #445 Posted October 21, 2017 "Le jig" works very well; kind of give me some ideas for my work mounting the oars. Robin Lous, Old Collingwood and cog 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share #446 Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) On 20-10-2017 at 2:59 PM, donrobinson said: I'm interested to see how you are going to use that foil. This is what I do with it.... I made the leather sleeves (Greek: Askomata) to prevent water from coming in through the lower oar-ports. Note: the ports need to be fairly large, because the oar blades must fit through them to be able to pull them in...and to replace broken oars from the inside. First I glue the oar to the copper sliding plate and tholepin on the inside. Then I slide the sleeve inside the hole and fix it with a tiny drop of CA glue on the inside. Then I close the sleeve with tweezers and a piece of string. And finally I paint the sleeve leather brown. And that was my first oar! Edited October 21, 2017 by Robin Lous bartejo, captgino, EJ_L and 8 others 11 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted October 21, 2017 Share #447 Posted October 21, 2017 Very nice solution! I never would have thought about leather sleeves for water tightness but not only does that make sense it gives you a great way to install the oars. Well done! Robin Lous, John Allen, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 22, 2017 Share #448 Posted October 22, 2017 On 20/10/2017 at 10:11 PM, Robin Lous said: Meh...I mean...in Dutch: transparante anti slip dopjes voor onder de kast...en hele kleintjes op de standaard, zodat de romp niet verschuift. I can show them tomorrow But, for now...I had to finish the display stand before I do the oars. When they're on...the ship will become an almost untouchable hedgehog. So better do it now....(warning...picture heavy explanation) Replaced the short bolt and nut holding the 2 slabs together with a brass 25 mm M4 bolt. A 5 mm brass tube...30mm long over the bolt...secured with 2 part epoxy glue. The "cradles" supporting the hull. Made of 2 layers of 0,4mm brass sheet. Two layers of thin sheet glued together makes it a stiff construction. A hole in the lower sheet to attach the 4mm tube that will slide into the 5mm tube on the base. Ready...some final bending needed to make it fit the bottom of the hull. My "less is more" stand finished. Oars next! (for real now lol) More soon, Robin She is looking Superb in that case robin - Really stands out now she looks like a museum item showing off your beautiful work. bartejo, EJ_L, captgino and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share #449 Posted October 22, 2017 Thanks guys! zappto, EJ_L and Old Collingwood 3 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 22, 2017 Share #450 Posted October 22, 2017 This is something very pleasing to behold. As you said, with all these oars, "hedgehog" is a perfect way to describe it. Really ingenious how you thought of using the lead foil to simulate leather. It's very convincing, yet simple and uncluttered. Old Collingwood, cog, EJ_L and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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